We need to talk about Diarmuid

Started by Mayo4Sam, June 05, 2017, 09:37:38 AM

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Orchard park

Quote from: weareros on September 21, 2017, 11:39:33 AM
If there was ever a moment of ironic salvation in the GAA, it was Diarmuid Connolly calling for calm after winning the free that was just about to win Dublin the All-Ireland, after being banned for most of the Summer for needlessly losing the head over a sideline ball in  Carlow.

maybe a lesson to be learned for Roscommon manager if he is interested in getting the best players in the county back on the panel.

or maybe its only leopard players who change spots, leopard manager maybe paid too much to

Bord na Mona man

While Connolly made a positive contribution on Sunday, his tally now stands at 4 points from play in 6 All Irelands. Does he contribute enough at the business end of the championship to warrant being touted as Dublin's greatest ever (Paul Curran last Saturday)?

Syferus

Quote from: Orchard park on September 21, 2017, 11:45:56 AM
Quote from: weareros on September 21, 2017, 11:39:33 AM
If there was ever a moment of ironic salvation in the GAA, it was Diarmuid Connolly calling for calm after winning the free that was just about to win Dublin the All-Ireland, after being banned for most of the Summer for needlessly losing the head over a sideline ball in  Carlow.

maybe a lesson to be learned for Roscommon manager if he is interested in getting the best players in the county back on the panel.

or maybe its only leopard players who change spots, leopard manager maybe paid too much to

Stop trying to continually distract from the uncomfortable truths about Dublin.

Orchard park

Syferis,

i trust at this stage you have at least primary school completed and suspect by your many post timings you might actually have made college.

so you should know the difference between TRUTH and OPINION. No mater how often you post your opinion unless you can back it with hard facts it remains that your OPINION


Truth definition, the true or actual state of a matter.

weareros

Quote from: Orchard park on September 21, 2017, 11:45:56 AM
Quote from: weareros on September 21, 2017, 11:39:33 AM
If there was ever a moment of ironic salvation in the GAA, it was Diarmuid Connolly calling for calm after winning the free that was just about to win Dublin the All-Ireland, after being banned for most of the Summer for needlessly losing the head over a sideline ball in  Carlow.

maybe a lesson to be learned for Roscommon manager if he is interested in getting the best players in the county back on the panel.

or maybe its only leopard players who change spots, leopard manager maybe paid too much to

Will leave that for a thread it belongs in. I was actually praising Connolly for taking his chance and redeeaming himself in the process. It was a memorable moment in a marvelous game of football.

Orchard park

Quote from: weareros on September 21, 2017, 12:40:49 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on September 21, 2017, 11:45:56 AM
Quote from: weareros on September 21, 2017, 11:39:33 AM
If there was ever a moment of ironic salvation in the GAA, it was Diarmuid Connolly calling for calm after winning the free that was just about to win Dublin the All-Ireland, after being banned for most of the Summer for needlessly losing the head over a sideline ball in  Carlow.

maybe a lesson to be learned for Roscommon manager if he is interested in getting the best players in the county back on the panel.

or maybe its only leopard players who change spots, leopard manager maybe paid too much to

Will leave that for a thread it belongs in. I was actually praising Connolly for taking his chance and redeeaming himself in the process. It was a memorable moment in a marvelous game of football.

credit to Connolly he showed serious maturity even if the haters still find faults....


my response on other was based on your username and hoping Connolly is proof everyone can move on if they want to

Rossfan

Indeed Elphinman.
Wouldn't it be great to see the best 30 footballers in Ros on our panel come 1st January.
Will any of Dublin's senior citizens retire?
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Orchard park

rossfan it would be

i havent a clue about Dublin footballers other than watching them, they are 150 miles from my front door where rugby is my challenge

Beffs

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Quote from: Syferus on September 21, 2017, 09:19:27 AM
To be blunt, his status has outstripped his actual contributions on the biggest stages by quite a degree. Connolly also doesn't kick many easy, let alone hard, points when matched up on Keegan, which belies the fact that he is not close to being the best player in the country that was still the line in most quarters until around last year's AI finals.

All that said, he is still an excellent player when he decides to keep his head. I would give Kevin Mc just as much if not more credit for steadying Dublin in the second half on Sunday, though. He's a player that actually deserves more praise than he gets IMO.

Not a lot to argue with there. Unfortunately, these days, people seem to have to nail their colours to the mast when it comes to talking about Connolly, or O'Shea and Keegan too, for that matter. If you say anything good or bad about either of them, then it turns into this big Mayo v Dublin brouhaha and, the specific nuts and bolts of what they do on the actual pitch, is almost an after thought. Connolly deserves great credit for winning the free that Rock converted and his composure immediately afterwards. But what about the ridiculous Hail Mary shot he attempted a few minutes before? There wouldn't have been a need for Rock to kick that free, if Connolly had shown more common sense there, that the likes of Brogan, McMannamon or Mannion typically display in the dying minutes of games. Aido sent one up of his own last year too. But mention either of those and, you will automatically be labeled a bitter begrudger, depending on who you are talking to. It's very tiresome.  :-\

tonto1888

Connolly is a fantastic player. That shouldn't be in doubt. His position in the all time greats list will only ever be opinion. Let's be honest, none of us are on a position to say one way or the other really

Syferus

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Quote from: tonto1888 on September 21, 2017, 01:39:42 PM
Connolly is a fantastic player. That shouldn't be in doubt. His position in the all time greats list will only ever be opinion. Let's be honest, none of us are on a position to say one way or the other really

We are in the very best position to judge him.

Beffs

Quote from: tonto1888 on September 21, 2017, 01:39:42 PM
Connolly is a fantastic player. That shouldn't be in doubt. His position in the all time greats list will only ever be opinion. Let's be honest, none of us are on a position to say one way or the other really

Nonsense. We have eyes.

Orchard park

Quote from: Syferus on September 21, 2017, 01:43:17 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on September 21, 2017, 01:39:42 PM
Connolly is a fantastic player. That shouldn't be in doubt. His position in the all time greats list will only ever be opinion. Let's be honest, none of us are on a position to say one way or the other really

We are in the very best position to judge him.

You dont rate him as is your perogative but who is the best footballer in the country you alluded to in disapariging Connolly ??

mrhardyannual

Dermot Connolly is a fantastically gifted player. He has power, perception and scoring ability and you wouldn't doubt his bravery. What he lacks at times is temperament. He will probably be listed as one of the most gifted players ever but in Snooker terms will be a Hurricane Higgins rather than a Stephen Hendry. Personally, I wouldn't have minded being either.

tonto1888

Quote from: Syferus on September 21, 2017, 01:43:17 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on September 21, 2017, 01:39:42 PM
Connolly is a fantastic player. That shouldn't be in doubt. His position in the all time greats list will only ever be opinion. Let's be honest, none of us are on a position to say one way or the other really

We are in the very best position to judge him.

Are we really? you've seen the best players from the 40s/50s/60s and before play enough times to really judge DCs place in the list of all time greats?