20+ murdered in US school shooting. Many primary school children among the dead.

Started by Puckoon, December 14, 2012, 06:07:01 PM

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Saffrongael

Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on December 14, 2012, 08:44:22 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 14, 2012, 08:42:47 PM
Shame on Obama.

Go on ......

No appetite in changing gun law, has had one term and didn't, won't do it in his second term. Over 900,000 shot in US this year, pretty sure that number would be lower if the legislation was changed. Really simple.
Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come

Armaghgeddon

Quote from: Saffrongael on December 14, 2012, 08:51:32 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on December 14, 2012, 08:44:22 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 14, 2012, 08:42:47 PM
Shame on Obama.

Go on ......

No appetite in changing gun law, has had one term and didn't, won't do it in his second term. Over 900,000 shot in US this year, pretty sure that number would be lower if the legislation was changed. Really simple.

Gun culture is huge in america and Obama does want to have tighter checks and restrictions on who can own a gun.

tyssam5

The Gun lobby will be arguing, with a perfectly straight face, that a lack of guns allowed this event to happen i.e. that teachers in the school were not armed. It's a weird mindset.

tyssam5

Quote from: Armaghgeddon on December 14, 2012, 08:56:48 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 14, 2012, 08:51:32 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on December 14, 2012, 08:44:22 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 14, 2012, 08:42:47 PM
Shame on Obama.

Go on ......

No appetite in changing gun law, has had one term and didn't, won't do it in his second term. Over 900,000 shot in US this year, pretty sure that number would be lower if the legislation was changed. Really simple.

Gun culture is huge in america and Obama does want to have tighter checks and restrictions on who can own a gun.

He was never going to touch this issue in his first term. Suppose you could call that cowardice or pragmatism.

stew

Quote from: omagh_gael on December 14, 2012, 08:20:14 PM
Msntioned on the news that the kids were in Kindergarten. 5 f**king years of age, what the f**k? There is as much blood on the NRA etc hands than the gunman.

That's not true gael,  it is emotive,yes their stance on gun control is disgusting but they did not pull the trigger, if what you say it true, then Obama, Bush Reagan, carter etc are also to blame for the killings of innocents over the country's history based on the fact their either sided with the NRA or the greater hypocrisy, that they oppose them but failed to change the law whilst in office and in a position to try to do so.

I just got a call from my kid who goes to the University of Minnesota, she is a nanny over there to help pay for her schooling and she minds twins, a boy and a girl that are 8 months old, she is distraught and cannot come to terms with what happened, how could you when you are face to face with two babies, let alone shove a gun in their face and kill them? Times that by 10 million and you scratch the surface of what the parents and families of the victims must be going through.

It takes a real man to kill 5 year olds, to open up and kill innocent children and teachers, I hope he rots in hell the cowardly bastard!

Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

Armaghgeddon

I am sitting on my laptop looking at the images of children crying, parents in tears and my girlfriend just told me that she seen a video where a fireman told the children to close their eyes as they left school. It is horrible to think that those children will have to live with those images for the rest of their lives, unfortunately they are not the first and they definitely won't be the last. Brothers, sisters, parents, grandparents and friends all grieving and this is one thing time will never heal.

stew

Quote from: Saffrongael on December 14, 2012, 08:42:47 PM
Shame on Obama.

WTF?

Shame on every President since day 1, shame on every senator from day one and shame on every govcenor from day one that lifted not one finger to change the gun culture in the USA.

Obama is partly to blame but no more so than any other president, that is most unfair.

Nothing good can come out of this other than maybe now, the cowards that are the politicians will be forced to act and say fcuk the NRA and get the laws changed  and get semi automatc and automatic weapons out of the hands of the people, they don't f**king need them!
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

Armaghgeddon

Quote from: stew on December 14, 2012, 09:08:58 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 14, 2012, 08:42:47 PM
Shame on Obama.

WTF?

Shame on every President since day 1, shame on every senator from day one and shame on every govcenor from day one that lifted not one finger to change the gun culture in the USA.

Obama is partly to blame but no more so than any other president, that is most unfair.

Nothing good can come out of this other than maybe now, the cowards that are the politicians will be forced to act and say fcuk the NRA and get the laws changed  and get semi automatc and automatic weapons out of the hands of the people, they don't f**king need them!

Shame on Americans for voting for him.

stew

Quote from: Armaghgeddon on December 14, 2012, 09:10:54 PM
Quote from: stew on December 14, 2012, 09:08:58 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 14, 2012, 08:42:47 PM
Shame on Obama.

WTF?

Shame on every President since day 1, shame on every senator from day one and shame on every govcenor from day one that lifted not one finger to change the gun culture in the USA.

Obama is partly to blame but no more so than any other president, that is most unfair.

Nothing good can come out of this other than maybe now, the cowards that are the politicians will be forced to act and say fcuk the NRA and get the laws changed  and get semi automatc and automatic weapons out of the hands of the people, they don't f**king need them!

Shame on Americans for voting for him.

WTF? Do you think Romney would have done more?? have a cop on.
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

Square Ball

22 children stabbed outside a primary school in China, if he were in America would he have had a gun?
Hospitals are not equipped to treat stupid

Armaghgeddon

Quote from: stew on December 14, 2012, 09:16:54 PM
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on December 14, 2012, 09:10:54 PM
Quote from: stew on December 14, 2012, 09:08:58 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 14, 2012, 08:42:47 PM
Shame on Obama.

WTF?

Shame on every President since day 1, shame on every senator from day one and shame on every govcenor from day one that lifted not one finger to change the gun culture in the USA.

Obama is partly to blame but no more so than any other president, that is most unfair.

Nothing good can come out of this other than maybe now, the cowards that are the politicians will be forced to act and say fcuk the NRA and get the laws changed  and get semi automatc and automatic weapons out of the hands of the people, they don't f**king need them!

Shame on Americans for voting for him.

WTF? Do you think Romney would have done more?? have a cop on.

I was defending Obama, if people are going to blame him then you can also blame the people who voted for him.

heganboy

Quote from: Armaghgeddon on December 14, 2012, 09:25:26 PM

I was defending Obama, if people are going to blame him then you can also blame the people who voted for him.

worst defense in history..
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity

stew

Quote from: Armaghgeddon on December 14, 2012, 09:25:26 PM
Quote from: stew on December 14, 2012, 09:16:54 PM
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on December 14, 2012, 09:10:54 PM
Quote from: stew on December 14, 2012, 09:08:58 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on December 14, 2012, 08:42:47 PM
Shame on Obama.

WTF?

Shame on every President since day 1, shame on every senator from day one and shame on every govcenor from day one that lifted not one finger to change the gun culture in the USA.

Obama is partly to blame but no more so than any other president, that is most unfair.

Nothing good can come out of this other than maybe now, the cowards that are the politicians will be forced to act and say fcuk the NRA and get the laws changed  and get semi automatc and automatic weapons out of the hands of the people, they don't f**king need them!

Shame on Americans for voting for him.

WTF? Do you think Romney would have done more?? have a cop on.

I was defending Obama, if people are going to blame him then you can also blame the people who voted for him.

like feck you were!

Name one politician that has stood up to the NRA and made a difference on gun legislation in the USA???   Ya cant! ergo you cannot blame Obama just because he is the sitting president, most unfair.

Obama is in a unique situation, unlike all before him he can become a part of the solution and not part of the problem, he has four years to make history on a very emotive and important issue, that of gun control, oh and he can weaken one of the worlds greatest associations while he is at it, how great would that be?
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

omagh_gael

@Stew

Obviously not direct responsibility but the weaponry the shooter had access to is a direct result of groups like the NRA.