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Good game. David Moran and Sean O'Shea were absolutely sensational today, as were Rock and McCaffrey for the Dubs. Fair play to Kerry O'Callaghan, Mannion and Fenton would have been singled out after destroying Mayo and all 3 were fairly quiet today by their own standards.

Kerry definitely left it behind them today, played a full half with an extra man, missed at least 3-4 that on any other day would have been scored. Thought the penalty was a wee bit harsh but by the letter of the law was a penalty. Clifford was fairly poor today by his own standards but kicked 2 lovely points and won a lot of frees. That shot that dropped short late on was very poor though as were some of his wides. Disappointed in Geaney as well today, though Barry was very good as was Spillane when he came on. Tommy Walsh still a great asset to have.

Would love to see a repeat of the league game between these two, best game of football I've seen in many a day. Hopefully same result too.

Going to sign off for the weekend. Win Lose or draw for the Dubs, they will always be the greatest of them all. Only begrudgers would say different.

Safe travel to the Kerry fans.

The Kerry team 75-86 are the best with 8 titles including a 3 in a row and a 4 in a row! Just! But this will be surpassed by this team.

Really hoping Dublin do it. The future of the Game depends on it!

True... they really need this AI

The long term future of the game depends on it - Seriously!

You what?😂😂😂

I don't think that's the reason to be fair. There are very few Dublin or Kerry posters here which is the main reason there's no much discussion. I'm really looking forward to the game and think it could be a great game. Two teams with better forwards than defenders, two teams with a willingness to play an open brand of football. Yes, Dublin are likely winners and may even run out comfortable winners but I felt all year that Kerry are the team with the best shot at upsetting the Dubs and if they get on top in midfield a shock isn't out of the question. I hope Kerry go for it and see how far it gets them.

Kerry have little chance in reality, and that's why there's not much interest never mind excitement, outside of the two counties involved.
The only reason people think Kerry have a chance is because they're Kerry.

That's it in a nutshell. I might place bet on the margin of Dublin's win just to make it a more interesting watch. Any suggestions on the margin?

Kerry have a bit of a chance because they have 4 scoring forwards in Seany O'Shea, Stevie O'Brien, Davey Clifford and Paul Geaney.  Its whether they can keep Dublin at Bay the other way which is the big problem.

Two of those forwards are still young lads who won't have faced the intensity and intimidation they are about to face on Sunday.

You need a fairly decent defence to stand a chance v Dublin. In the next year or two they should improve defensively but right now I can't help but think this All Ireland final has come too soon for a Kerry team in transition.

Don't think the inexperience will faze them two lads, they'll give Dublin plenty to think about but unless they've found the equivalent of peak Tyrone/Armagh/Mayo defences from this century they will concede too much to stand a chance.

[I'd certainly have Donegal ahead of them at the minute as well.]

The Tyrone record against the big three of Dublin, Kerry and Mayo since the last win in 2008 doesn't make for great reading. 

The numbers don't lie, they just need to be interpreted. Certainly the figures contradict the high opinion afforded to Tyrone by pundits and supporters alike.

They're clearly not in the top 3 but they're not awfully far behind Mayo and Kerry, I'd certainly have Donegal ahead of them at the minute as well.

Based on what?

Them bateing yas?

The Tyrone record against the big three of Dublin, Kerry and Mayo since the last win in 2008 doesn't make for great reading. 

The numbers don't lie, they just need to be interpreted. Certainly the figures contradict the high opinion afforded to Tyrone by pundits and supporters alike.

They're clearly not in the top 3 but they're not awfully far behind Mayo and Kerry, I'd certainly have Donegal ahead of them at the minute as well.

If you're watching the BBC for anything other than the peaky blinders you're wasting your time.

Look what Tyrone did to the Kerry defence with one good forward in McShane, imagine what O'Callaghan, Mannion and Co will do. Although the Kerry forwards have the quality to get plenty of joy out of the Dubs backline if Kerry manage to get the ball that far.

There were many decisions in that game that should be deeply concerning for the GAA and GAA fans. You could not credit it to a bad day at the office for Deegan, it was the willful way he ignored blatant fouling and cynicism on one hand and engaged in pure guesswork to punish innocuous contact on the other hand, all to the beneficiary of one side. The bias was not subtle, it was not hidden and there's barely been a peep about it - I've seen far better, much fairer refereeing performances been the subject of scrutiny and criticism in the past in games where it had less influence on the result.

There seems to be an element trying to hush the serious issues and grievances with Deegan. The conduct of Kerry, their players, management and ex players is regularly expunged fairly quickly in the media but with Tyrone they still bring up acts from 15 years ago. You will have the usual idiot savants like dublin7 and those regularly listing unsubstantiated claims against Tyrone but he won't look at his own county in the same light.

I'd just like a level playing field for all but it doesn't seem Tyrone will ever get that and you can guarantee if Armagh or Derry ever came back to the top table and stuck about they would soon understand. Some people from Armagh must have particularly short memories.

You are 100% correct about Deegan.  Tyrone were not the only Ulster side to come out the wrong side in the second half of a game - think back to Castlebar and Armagh Mayo game. He denied Armagh a chance to come back with his timekeeping.  At least Tyrone got 7 minutes to try to turn it around.

The problem arises when your team is beaten and you try to raise issues about the referee, it smells like sour grapes.

Ref rode us in Castlebar, even worse than he did with Tyrone vs Kerry but just like Tyrone we beat ourselves conceding soft scores and not taking our own.

Easy to blame refs after a loss. Armagh beat themselves in Castlebar, goal chances not taken 13 wides and other efforts dropped short.

Tyrone for the way they played 2nd half last Sunday deserved to be beaten.

100% correct sir, 2 bad refereeing performances but both teams beat themselves.

[other era they'd have won multiple AI's]

Why would you want to be remembered as losers? Mayo fans should be hoping that everyone forgets about this team.

One of the best teams ever. Of course they'll be remembered, they went toe to toe with the best team ever to play the game and in any other era they'd have won multiple AI's

Debatable. They only had to beat Kerry and Donegal in 2012,2014 to win the All Ireland. If they had reached this years final would they have beaten Kerry? I doubt it.

They were to young in 2012 and Andy was injured! In 2014 they were stitched up!

And now too old and too many injuries? From OGs, sending offs, goalkeeping errors etc v Dublin the excuses are endless. The Dubs were desperate poor in the drawn 2016 All Ireland final scoring just 0-9. Mayo unable to take advantage as they themselves were in poor form and stumbled into that final.

They still stumbled into finals! No excuses, we always lost to the better team except for 2014. If a team is better than you, a team is better than you! Them's the breaks!

We'll possibly see Armagh reach the top table in the coming years and we'll see how their fair against this new era of Financial Doping.

Armagh's level for foreseeable future is reaching the last eight at best. A level that Mayo might have to accept in the years ahead as they go through a transition period.

'financial doping' aside how strong is Dublin's main competitors at the moment are they (Tyrone, Donegal, Mayo and Kerry) at the level they once were?

None of them are anywhere near where they were when they were winning All Irelands but all bar Tyrone are going through transition and have plenty of good young players breaking through

Why would you want to be remembered as losers? Mayo fans should be hoping that everyone forgets about this team.

One of the best teams ever. Of course they'll be remembered, they went toe to toe with the best team ever to play the game and in any other era they'd have won multiple AI's

There were many decisions in that game that should be deeply concerning for the GAA and GAA fans. You could not credit it to a bad day at the office for Deegan, it was the willful way he ignored blatant fouling and cynicism on one hand and engaged in pure guesswork to punish innocuous contact on the other hand, all to the beneficiary of one side. The bias was not subtle, it was not hidden and there's barely been a peep about it - I've seen far better, much fairer refereeing performances been the subject of scrutiny and criticism in the past in games where it had less influence on the result.

There seems to be an element trying to hush the serious issues and grievances with Deegan. The conduct of Kerry, their players, management and ex players is regularly expunged fairly quickly in the media but with Tyrone they still bring up acts from 15 years ago. You will have the usual idiot savants like dublin7 and those regularly listing unsubstantiated claims against Tyrone but he won't look at his own county in the same light.

I'd just like a level playing field for all but it doesn't seem Tyrone will ever get that and you can guarantee if Armagh or Derry ever came back to the top table and stuck about they would soon understand. Some people from Armagh must have particularly short memories.

You are 100% correct about Deegan.  Tyrone were not the only Ulster side to come out the wrong side in the second half of a game - think back to Castlebar and Armagh Mayo game. He denied Armagh a chance to come back with his timekeeping.  At least Tyrone got 7 minutes to try to turn it around.

The problem arises when your team is beaten and you try to raise issues about the referee, it smells like sour grapes.

Ref rode us in Castlebar, even worse than he did with Tyrone vs Kerry but just like Tyrone we beat ourselves conceding soft scores and not taking our own.

When are we likely to hear more from Kerry on their players getting poisoned? They have the all ireland final to look forward to now but hopefully they will follow it up after the final and expose the scum for what they are.

A side with a history of failing dope tests citing being poisoned by the opposition, would that not set alarm bells ringing in your head?

A history of failing dope tests? Catch yourself on posting shite like that about amateur players.

[watched the match, I haven't watched it back, but I can't remember a point where I thought this ref is taking the piss..]

I watched the match, I haven't watched it back, but I can't remember a point where I thought this ref is taking the piss..

What I did noticed was Tyrone failed to pull away when they had their dominance. Kerry made the right changes and Mickey didn't act on them.

Best team won, they generally do without needing assistance from the ref. Close this thread, it's embarrassing to be honest

And very glad I was never refereed by your good self sir, if you think that Deegan's display that day is beyond reproach, seriously. Or maybe you think that wildly erratic application of the rules is just fine? 

Were they as wildly erratic as they Tyrone display in the second half?

When a team crumbles it's easy to blame the referee.

So this nonsense, right under the ref's nose, is just fine and dandy, is it?

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Aw please sir the big boy won't let me past. Ffs man up, put him on his back and get on with the game. He'll get zero sympathy because thats mild compared to Tyrones tactics.

Yes Deegan gave Kerry a couple of handy frees after half time, yes he was being an absolute tool with regards calling frees from 60 yards away and yes he could have called for fouls on Harte for off the ball stuff. But ffs Kerry were a far better team, Tyrone played their usual defensive shite, missed handy chances and gave the ball away cheaply leading to Kerry scores. At the end of the day Peter Harte is one of Tyrones best players, teams are obviously going to look to nullify him however they can, (like Tyrone have done plenty of times to the likes of the Gooch) but thats where Harte should have been putting O'Sullivan on his arse or if hes not fit to one of the other lads should have, rather than crying looking frees. Tyrone got what they deserved from that game regardless of the ref.