All-Ireland SFC Quarter Final Mayo v Cork

Started by RedandGreenSniper, July 24, 2011, 04:26:17 PM

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rosnarun

Mayo have nothing to fear in this game.
We have a young team that no one seems to believe in.with a young manager who finally seems to be getting some kind of grip on what his best team is . If these guys get a dry ball on the wide open surface of Croker park they can run that cork defence ragged. All chances will need to be taklen bit Cillian o connor's CF form is a massive boost after all an 'average' team by  kerry standards took them aprt in the 1st half of the muster final and mayo can do the same against a cork team with an eye and a hlf on the Semi Final.
Many of mayos players are in the early stages of their career development and this game can help . A o se  Alan Freeman K mc laughlin  R hennelly E varley and R feeney  come of age as county players. there may be tweaks needed aound CHB to deal with corks power .But this is a winnable game and could really reignite mayo Quest for Sam. and watch the fans come running back then , but thise who care will be there the next day the rest can wait for the next  bandwagon.
 
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Jinxy

Quote from: rosnarun on July 25, 2011, 12:32:48 AM
Mayo have nothing to fear in this game.
We have a young team that no one seems to believe in.with a young manager who finally seems to be getting some kind of grip on what his best team is . If these guys get a dry ball on the wide open surface of Croker park they can run that cork defence ragged. All chances will need to be taklen bit Cillian o connor's CF form is a massive boost after all an 'average' team by  kerry standards took them aprt in the 1st half of the muster final and mayo can do the same against a cork team with an eye and a hlf on the Semi Final.
Many of mayos players are in the early stages of their career development and this game can help . A o se  Alan Freeman K mc laughlin  R hennelly E varley and R feeney  come of age as county players. there may be tweaks needed aound CHB to deal with corks power .But this is a winnable game and could really reignite mayo Quest for Sam. and watch the fans come running back then , but thise who care will be there the next day the rest can wait for the next  bandwagon.


Is it not on in Croke Park?
If you were any use you'd be playing.

muppet

We will need 3 or 4 backs to have the games of their lives. We should be able to break even at midfield and we will need a couple of few goals between Freeman and Doherty. We will need the frees all going over and we will need to win most of the dirty ball.

But it can be done.
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ballinaman

Quote from: muppet on July 25, 2011, 02:47:56 AM
We will need 3 or 4 backs to have the games of their lives. We should be able to break even at midfield and we will need a couple of few goals between Freeman and Doherty. We will need the frees all going over and we will need to win most of the dirty ball.

But it can be done.
Against possibly one of the best breaking ball winning teams ever. Its a huge ask but anything can happen. No guts no glory, set the tone early akin to Dublin 06 and players/supporters will start to believe.

venter

Quote from: muppet on July 25, 2011, 02:47:56 AM
We should be able to break even at midfield

As far as I can see, Alan O'Connor is becoming the most dominant midfielder in the game. He is a collosus.  We really struggled against him in the league final last year and he has only got better since. When you add Aiden Walsh to that, I think we are going to be living off scraps in that area of the field, which will ultimately be our undoing. We need a massive performance from the O'se brothers for us to be in with a shout.


Hopefully we get a solid performance all round and come out of it with some credit. Horan is starting to get a settled team together which will help them grow in confidence. A lot of the mayo lads can take inspiration from the u21 final a few years back. Here's hoping.

highorlow

Quotethat no one seems to believe in

I do. I don't see what all the hype is around Cork. They are just a big awkward bunch this year. Our young forward line will run rings around them. Mayo by 5 or 6.
They get momentum, they go mad, here they go

Jinxy

If you were any use you'd be playing.

Chéad rogha

Love the way this thread is starting to turn around  ;)
Was just checkin out the u21 final teams from 2006. Theres some amount of players from both teams that have stayed the distance, and alot of the cork lads have become proven big time players. 

From our point of view the most disappointing absentee is aidan kilcoyne, he was the winning of that final. Anyway just goes to show weve beaten alot of their main players in a major match in the not too distant past.

CORK: K O'Halloran; R Carey, C Murphy, S O'Donoghue; D Limerick, M Shields, E Cadogan; A O'Connor, P Kelly; F Gould, C Keane, P Kerrigan (capt); D Goulding, P O'Flynn, J Hayes.

Subs used: G O'Shea for Hayes (44 mins), F Lynch for Kelly (52)

MAYO: K O'Malley; T Howley, G Cafferkey, K Higgins (capt); C Barrett, T Cunniffe, C Boyle; S O'Shea, B Moran; A Campbell, J Dillon, A Kilcoyne; M Ronaldson, M Hannick, M Conroy.

Subs used: S Ryan for Boyle (half time), K Costello for Dillon, E Varley for Hannick (both 40 mins)


Tubberman

Quote from: Chéad rogha on July 25, 2011, 10:16:08 AM
Love the way this thread is starting to turn around  ;)
Was just checkin out the u21 final teams from 2006. Theres some amount of players from both teams that have stayed the distance, and alot of the cork lads have become proven big time players. 

From our point of view the most disappointing absentee is aidan kilcoyne, he was the winning of that final. Anyway just goes to show weve beaten alot of their main players in a major match in the not too distant past.

CORK: K O'Halloran; R Carey, C Murphy, S O'Donoghue; D Limerick, M Shields, E Cadogan; A O'Connor, P Kelly; F Gould, C Keane, P Kerrigan (capt); D Goulding, P O'Flynn, J Hayes.

Subs used: G O'Shea for Hayes (44 mins), F Lynch for Kelly (52)

MAYO: K O'Malley; T Howley, G Cafferkey, K Higgins (capt); C Barrett, T Cunniffe, C Boyle; S O'Shea, B Moran; A Campbell, J Dillon, A Kilcoyne; M Ronaldson, M Hannick, M Conroy.

Subs used: S Ryan for Boyle (half time), K Costello for Dillon, E Varley for Hannick (both 40 mins)

Ronaldson and Howley are in the Mayo panel as well, and Barry Moran was back training with them before the Connacht Final - not sure if he's still there.

If you were a neutral, you'd say Cork are clear favourites, and should win by 5+.
If we do any better than that, we will have put in a big performance, and I'd be happy with that.
There's always a chance though, and Cork aren't the finished article. They are huge men, great athletes, but can take the wrong options if pressured into it. Whether we'll be able to force them into that is what we'll find out at the weekend.

Hopefully there'll be a big Mayo crowd, as I can't see many Corkonians coming up - they'll wait for their semi v Kerry!  ;)
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

Chimley

Quote from: Chéad rogha on July 25, 2011, 10:16:08 AM
Love the way this thread is starting to turn around  ;)
Was just checkin out the u21 final teams from 2006. Theres some amount of players from both teams that have stayed the distance, and alot of the cork lads have become proven big time players. 

From our point of view the most disappointing absentee is aidan kilcoyne, he was the winning of that final. Anyway just goes to show weve beaten alot of their main players in a major match in the not too distant past.

CORK: K O'Halloran; R Carey, C Murphy, S O'Donoghue; D Limerick, M Shields, E Cadogan; A O'Connor, P Kelly; F Gould, C Keane, P Kerrigan (capt); D Goulding, P O'Flynn, J Hayes.

Subs used: G O'Shea for Hayes (44 mins), F Lynch for Kelly (52)

MAYO: K O'Malley; T Howley, G Cafferkey, K Higgins (capt); C Barrett, T Cunniffe, C Boyle; S O'Shea, B Moran; A Campbell, J Dillon, A Kilcoyne; M Ronaldson, M Hannick, M Conroy.

Subs used: S Ryan for Boyle (half time), K Costello for Dillon, E Varley for Hannick (both 40 mins)

And even more annoying from a Mayo perspective is that six of that team were first year out of minor (Cafferkey, Barrett, Cunniffe, Boyle, O'Shea and Campbell) meaning that we had two more years at U21 with the core of that team.

RedandGreenSniper

Quote from: Chimley on July 25, 2011, 10:34:16 AM
Quote from: Chéad rogha on July 25, 2011, 10:16:08 AM
Love the way this thread is starting to turn around  ;)
Was just checkin out the u21 final teams from 2006. Theres some amount of players from both teams that have stayed the distance, and alot of the cork lads have become proven big time players. 

From our point of view the most disappointing absentee is aidan kilcoyne, he was the winning of that final. Anyway just goes to show weve beaten alot of their main players in a major match in the not too distant past.

CORK: K O'Halloran; R Carey, C Murphy, S O'Donoghue; D Limerick, M Shields, E Cadogan; A O'Connor, P Kelly; F Gould, C Keane, P Kerrigan (capt); D Goulding, P O'Flynn, J Hayes.

Subs used: G O'Shea for Hayes (44 mins), F Lynch for Kelly (52)

MAYO: K O'Malley; T Howley, G Cafferkey, K Higgins (capt); C Barrett, T Cunniffe, C Boyle; S O'Shea, B Moran; A Campbell, J Dillon, A Kilcoyne; M Ronaldson, M Hannick, M Conroy.

Subs used: S Ryan for Boyle (half time), K Costello for Dillon, E Varley for Hannick (both 40 mins)

And even more annoying from a Mayo perspective is that six of that team were first year out of minor (Cafferkey, Barrett, Cunniffe, Boyle, O'Shea and Campbell) meaning that we had two more years at U21 with the core of that team.

Only five - Boyle was minor captain in 2004 and in his second year U21 in 2006 - but your point still remains.
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Chéad rogha

Quote from: Tubberman on July 25, 2011, 10:29:05 AM
Ronaldson and Howley are in the Mayo panel as well, and Barry Moran was back training with them before the Connacht Final - not sure if he's still there.

If you were a neutral, you'd say Cork are clear favourites, and should win by 5+.
If we do any better than that, we will have put in a big performance, and I'd be happy with that.
There's always a chance though, and Cork aren't the finished article. They are huge men, great athletes, but can take the wrong options if pressured into it. Whether we'll be able to force them into that is what we'll find out at the weekend.

Hopefully there'll be a big Mayo crowd, as I can't see many Corkonians coming up - they'll wait for their semi v Kerry!  ;)

Yea i just highlighted those that were named on the 26man panel v ros

Some positives to take into the game the next day
1. Most teams love being underdogs
2. Cork wont have much of an idea of our tactics\dangermen judging from the connacht championship
3. Alot of our players have tasted big game success against some of their players in the aforementioned u21 game
4. Weve a manger who has instilled a good work ethic into the team and isnt afraid to make changes to adapt to situations
5. Weve got Andy

Negatives
1. Its Cork

seafoid

Cork lost so many big matches before finally winning that all-Ireland last year. Cork are nobodies in the bigger scheme of football things. They only have 6 or 7 all-Irelands in total.
Galway have more and Mayo beat Galway so FFS get the head right Mayo and go out and win. 

Kerry Mike

QuoteCork lost so many big matches before finally winning that all-Ireland last year. Cork are nobodies in the bigger scheme of football things. They only have 6 or 7 all-Irelands in total.

You must have Kerry blood !!
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stevetharlear

Quote from: seafoid on July 25, 2011, 11:16:01 AM
Cork lost so many big matches before finally winning that all-Ireland last year. Cork are nobodies in the bigger scheme of football things. They only have 6 or 7 all-Irelands in total.
Galway have more and Mayo beat Galway so FFS get the head right Mayo and go out and win.
Also,they haven't lost to anyone bar Kerry in 8 years, they're totally useless. I'm sure they also would have struggled to beat London.