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Good angle to show that Lane didn't see the incident at the time. Turn round due to the crowd's reaction

So he turned around, observed a player lying on the ground and an opponent standing over him, but didn't think to stop play to adjudicate.
That  seems like good refereeing.

So are you saying you want the referee to stop play every time that situation arises?

So a team on the attack in the final minutes of a game, a player on the defending hits the ground, the crowd reacts, referee stops play, consults all his other officials, nobody seen anything. Play restarts with a free to the attacking team which they aren't allowed to score from and the defending team are now set with everyone back and marking their opponents.

Fair point.

But is he not in communication with his supporting officials, i.e. when a linesman witnesses an actual legitimate assault/incident and informs the referee of the incident. It seemed like the linesman saw that happen yesterday.

My thoughts are that the next break in play is the time to discuss these incidents. Linesman sees something and notifies ref, umpire sees same incident from a different angle and has a different opinion.
The ref referees the game as he sees it, if he doesn't see an off the ball incident he can't keep stopping play to consult his officials. He also can't be in ongoing discussions with the other officials as there is a game to referee!

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Good angle to show that Lane didn't see the incident at the time. Turn round due to the crowd's reaction

So he turned around, observed a player lying on the ground and an opponent standing over him, but didn't think to stop play to adjudicate.
That  seems like good refereeing.

So are you saying you want the referee to stop play every time that situation arises?

So a team on the attack in the final minutes of a game, a player on the defending hits the ground, the crowd reacts, referee stops play, consults all his other officials, nobody seen anything. Play restarts with a free to the attacking team which they aren't allowed to score from and the defending team are now set with everyone back and marking their opponents.

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Good angle to show that Lane didn't see the incident at the time. Turn round due to the crowd's reaction

Think that Chrissy McKaigue, the only man to win each of the 4 Divisional titles. Hard believe 5 yrs ago in Ballinascreen. There was only 300 odd supporters at a fball /hurling double header. Surely any lower team got to look at Derry and say why can't we do it too.

Don't think he has a division 2 title (despite finishing top of the league)

Kerry and Dublin are the only two with the depth who can pull themselves out of any hole they may find themselves in. The rest take it seriously enough. The likes of Tyrone and maybe Galway have got wake up calls in the league. Tyrone will be better for it but Galway need to keep players like comer and Walsh fit to be all the better for it. A final in it is no big deal though.

There are 8 teams in Div 1

Kerry and Dublin make 2
Tyrone and Galway "got wake up calls"
Roscommon and Monaghan didn't "take it seriously"
"the rest" = Mayo and Derry !

Teams getting beat doesn't mean they're not taking it seriously.

Roscommon used 31 players. I wonder how many other teams did.

https://twitter.com/TsuDhoNim/status/1769495671105568768
Roscommon not too different to other counties in Division 1

Historically, Glenullin would never have been promoted to senior championship on the basis of their intermediate championship wins (unless they nominated themselves).
At the start of last year they would've been aware that winning the intermediate championship would not have gained them promotion to the senior championship - did they appeal at this time?
And if Banagher hadn't totally messed up in the final few minutes of last years final there wouldn't be a word about it 
They'll have the bit between their teeth to make it 3-in-a-row now though.

[McCarron for over-carrying]

Thought Scotstown had a couple of chances to go for points and went for goals instead which proved their downfall. McCarron also gave couple of silly balls away late on.

My thoughts too.

There were 4 goal chances in the 2nd half, one long ball went to D Hughes who fisted, hit the post and somehow miraculously stayed out. The  second went to Darren again when he could've taken a point but there was a point from a free in the same play. The third was what you could say was a missed point when after a brilliant piece of play an effort at goal went amiss,  the 4th was K Hughes, the last shot of the game which (unfortunately) went straight to the goalie.
Going for goals was not the undoing of Scotstown, they started the 2nd half strongly and were ahead by a point on the 50th min. Simply put Glen were the better team in those last 10 minutes even if the ref in error penalised McCarron for over-carrying, didn't notice that he had only taken 3 steps. Glenn scored 3 points in the closing minutes from similar positions that Scotstown couldn´t.

When it was originally blown I thought the ref was influenced by the crowd and gave a harsh call for overcarrying but in the replay it could clearly be seen that the ball swapped hands a couple of times

Derry with 4 what a joke.

Didn't expect Derry to get 4 but all 4 were totally deserved! Thought McKindless would've been the unlucky one to miss out but he was the best No.6 this year.

How are Glenullin still Intermediate? Did they not win it last year or the year before?

They won it last year but Galbally beat them well in Ulster. If they win Derry again this year can they play in Ulster?

Surely they should play senior in Derry though?

Historically there has never been promotion through winning the junior or intermediate championship; promotion has always been based on league.

However, that is changing.  This year there has been a "de-coupling" of the league and championship meaning, for example, next year Lavey will be playing Division 2 football but are still in the senior championship and 2 out of Swatragh, Coleraine, Loup and Ballinderry will still be playing Division 1 football but will be in the intermediate championship.

I still don't think there is any promotion for winning junior or intermediate championship this year (and possibly next year??) as the numbers in the senior championship are being reduced from 16 to 12.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/gaa/manslaughter-charge-against-former-derry-gaa-star-withdrawn/a410368988.html

The referee in this case refereed on behalf of Ballinderry; has he changed clubs or was there a conscious decision by Tyrone county board to get an "outside" referee for championship games?

Was confirmed the other day that Derry will wear red and Cork white.

Has red become our jersey now? Who changed it?
I hate it myself, white and red band is the Derry jersey I grew up with (except for when we played that shower next door).

Looks like Derry see the red jersey as lucky jersey now.

Superstitious shite. Never wins a game.

From a Tyrone supporter Derry Jersey majority white is way better. Reminds me of anthony tokkkil kicking ass. And sure u never won an all ireland in a majority red one??

https://youtu.be/L3HWa7Kx0nc

Once a week for training and a game, whether go games, tournaments or challenge games is plenty. The players would go 4-5 days a week all year round but you need to give them space to do other things and you do not want to fatigue the Parents or coaches.

Yeah, between football, hurling/camogie, soccer plus other activities (be it swimming, music, youth club etc) I think one training a week is plenty at the younger age groups.

Our club actually merged the football & hurling training at U7.5 age group which I thought was a great idea - introduced boys to hurling that probably wouldn't have otherwise taken it up; obviously not everyone kept it going but I think it's great to expose young children to as many activities as possible.

I know its been 11 years since this thread was started but I'm wondering have peoples opinions changed since then.

I had no involvement in go-games at that stage but now that I've a couple of children involved...

I like the idea behind go-games - it encourages participation from all children regardless of ability and working with the children it is easy to see the improvement that they've all made over the course of the year.  That obliviously isn't just because of the go-games - coaches at trainings, parents at home and the children themselves have to practice the skills but the go-games give the children the opportunity to put the skills into practice in a semi-competitive scenario; the go-games give more children more opportunities to get on the ball in game situations.

Also, its strange to see Larry Duff above (11 years ago!) highlight competitive tournaments creeping in... I thought this was a more recent phenomenon with only a few tournaments at the end of the year but now every club seems to want to host their own tournament.  I can see some merit in a few tournaments but it's how they are managed.  Clubs with larger numbers have to pick a panel (meaning boys/girls are excluded).  I've also noticed when tournaments start that some children don't want to participate in go-games any more or just generally mess about as there are no winners!
I also find that tournaments can bring the worst out in everyone; coaches (will to win means some children won't get game time), parents (abuse of players/coaches/referees) and children themselves (aggressiveness boils over - lashing out and foulmouthed to officials)

Anyway - be interested to hear other peoples thoughts.

US Open picks:
Sam Burns
Matt Fitzpatrick
Corey Conners
Shane Lowry (was hesitant with Lowry as he's paired with 2 LIV golfers for the first 2 rounds and the reception from the Boston crowd might be interesting but hopefully he rises to the positive reception that he's bound to receive)