Ulster Club IFC/JFC 2023

[clarshack]

That's what the Kerry boys want you to think. It's a myth that they are a tiny club. They had some list of players listed in the programme for the All-Ireland series last year. Just look at their FB page and between mens and ladies they are similar to the likes of Clonoe in Tyrone.

[Armagh18]

That's what the Kerry boys want you to think. It's a myth that they are a tiny club. They had some list of players listed in the programme for the All-Ireland series last year. Just look at their FB page and between mens and ladies they are similar to the likes of Clonoe in Tyrone.

Could be wrong but thought they had never won a junior before the Clifford lads came along? Anyway they'll probably win an AI intermediate this year anyway.

[Ball Hopper]

That's what the Kerry boys want you to think. It's a myth that they are a tiny club. They had some list of players listed in the programme for the All-Ireland series last year. Just look at their FB page and between mens and ladies they are similar to the likes of Clonoe in Tyrone.

Could be wrong but thought they had never won a junior before the Clifford lads came along? Anyway they'll probably win an AI intermediate this year anyway.

Will play in Div 2 next year for the first time ever.  Won junior for the first time last year.

By the way, Clifford parents met in Dublin while both working in Dept of Justice.  That was the Dept moved to Killarney a few decades ago....probably on a toss of a coin or some such government policy.  So the lads could have been born anywhere.   Except the wee six, obviously.

[Saffron_sam20]

Antrim linked (though you can apply to play up, you can't play down)
Armagh linked
Tyrone linked

So let me get this right. I those counties if you win intermediate you are automatically promoted to senior and to Div1?

If you win Div2 league you automatically get promoted to the senior Championship too?

Of course

No if you win Intermediate in Antrim you play senior championship the next year but do not get promoted

So Antrim is not linked in that case.

Sorry, I thought I explained that. It is linked in that you cannot play down. If you are Division 1 you can't play intermediate or junior. If you are Division 2, you can't play junior. But you can play up. You might have to or you can apply to.

So just to clarify, if in Antrim you are a Junior Club in Div3. You win the Div3 league but you do not win the Junior championship. In this case next year you are in Div2 and also in the intermediate championship?

Not entirely true, St Endas go to the all Ireland intermediate final while playing Div 1

[Cavan19]

Stewartstown were fortunate enough to beat Drumlane who knocked out Arva last season and Stewartstown were only in Junior due to Covid. Just can't see the Cavan champions getting caught out this year.

Will next year too see Knockbride playing in Division 1 having won the Division 2 Final and playing in the Junior Championship?

Yep they should walk Junior next year now that Arva are out of it.

The Junior clubs in Cavan will be glad to see the back of those two and things should start to level off from now on.

[Armagh18]

Stewartstown were fortunate enough to beat Drumlane who knocked out Arva last season and Stewartstown were only in Junior due to Covid. Just can't see the Cavan champions getting caught out this year.

Will next year too see Knockbride playing in Division 1 having won the Division 2 Final and playing in the Junior Championship?

Yep they should walk Junior next year now that Arva are out of it.

The Junior clubs in Cavan will be glad to see the back of those two and things should start to level off from now on.

Did covid make a balls of the whole thing?

[Cavan19]

Stewartstown were fortunate enough to beat Drumlane who knocked out Arva last season and Stewartstown were only in Junior due to Covid. Just can't see the Cavan champions getting caught out this year.

Will next year too see Knockbride playing in Division 1 having won the Division 2 Final and playing in the Junior Championship?

Yep they should walk Junior next year now that Arva are out of it.

The Junior clubs in Cavan will be glad to see the back of those two and things should start to level off from now on.

Did covid make a balls of the whole thing?

It had nothing to do with Covid.

They relegated two teams back a few years ago to even up the grades and do away with bye rounds. The last few years there have been at least two very strong teams in the Junior Championship. Drumlane won it last year and got to the Ulster final but would not have been a team many would have picked to get out of Cavan.  Knockbride have been trying to get out of Junior a good few years but are not producing come the business end of the championship. They got promoted to Division 1 this year but were playing Division 3 league last year.

Arva lost a lot of players who went travelling and Ciaran Brady had a bad injury and they went from Senior to Junior. All the players are back now and a lot of those lads are at their peak now as well. They are a serious outfit and will be one of the favorites for intermediate next year in Cavan. 

All the Junior clubs in Cavan will want Knockbride to win it next year as it will open it up and the real Junior clubs will have a chance of winning it from then on.

[LeoMc]

Antrim linked (though you can apply to play up, you can't play down)
Armagh linked
Tyrone linked

So let me get this right. I those counties if you win intermediate you are automatically promoted to senior and to Div1?

If you win Div2 league you automatically get promoted to the senior Championship too?

Of course

Ok but then how do you keep equal teams in your league and championship? Isn't it possible 2 teams could go up to senior every year (intermediate champions and Div2 winners). Do 2 teams get related then when that happens?

In Tyrone it is similar to Armagh with 2 up and 2 down but we also have play-off's (involving the next 4) for a potential 3rd team to go up/down.
In theory we could have 6 teams in and out of Intermediate each year. This keeps our leagues competitive.

[tiempo]

The same Cavan who put school amalgamations into Ulster colleges, all they're looking is the same easy road to a few wins same as their Kerry counterparts with misaligned competitions and grades

One for the wtf thread ... why was that Kerry amalgamation bs on TG4 yesterday, club champ live broadcasting should be reserved for real club teams, not divisional fakery

[Armagh18]

The same Cavan who put school amalgamations into Ulster colleges, all they're looking is the same easy road to a few wins same as their Kerry counterparts with misaligned competitions and grades

One for the wtf thread ... why was that Kerry amalgamation bs on TG4 yesterday, club champ live broadcasting should be reserved for real club teams, not divisional fakery

No problem with them being on TG4 myself, people want to see the best players playing. You're gonna get more people tuning in to watch the Cliffords than pretty much anyone else

[mrdeeds]

The same Cavan who put school amalgamations into Ulster colleges, all they're looking is the same easy road to a few wins same as their Kerry counterparts with misaligned competitions and grades

One for the wtf thread ... why was that Kerry amalgamation bs on TG4 yesterday, club champ live broadcasting should be reserved for real club teams, not divisional fakery

What school amalgamation?

[clarshack]

The same Cavan who put school amalgamations into Ulster colleges, all they're looking is the same easy road to a few wins same as their Kerry counterparts with misaligned competitions and grades

One for the wtf thread ... why was that Kerry amalgamation bs on TG4 yesterday, club champ live broadcasting should be reserved for real club teams, not divisional fakery

What school amalgamation?

Maybe he means the Ulster Minor and U-21 Club Competitions? Pretty sure there has been Amalgamated Cavan sides playing in those. Southern Gaels?

[Wildweasel74]

Fossa not like Clonoe,it's a very small place, with a hotel full of Ukrainians beside them if they want expand their player base. Ballymaguigan to me would be a genuine Strong Junior team, so that hammering yesterday, you have to question their level of Opposition.I remember another team from Cavan Drumgoon,who were in the Junior championship yet in Senior football around the same time or year after it.

[clarshack]

Fossa not like Clonoe,it's a very small place, with a hotel full of Ukrainians beside them if they want expand their player base. Ballymaguigan to me would be a genuine Strong Junior team, so that hammering yesterday, you have to question their level of Opposition.I remember another team from Cavan Drumgoon,who were in the Junior championship yet in Senior football around the same time or year after it.

Yeah your right Clonoe doesn't even have an hotel lol.

[Wildweasel74]

Everywhere round Killarney got Hotels, that one I stayed in 4yrs bck, so dropped over to the pitch beside it, there not alot round there to be honest, with  2 big teams not 2 mile down the round. Maybe if divisional teams dudnt exist, Cliffords may have moved.