Ronan O'Gara stock rising on OWC!

[muppet]

So what exactly is the OWC position on Sir Ronan O'Gara's interpretation of royal protocol?

He isn't being discussed.

Discussed or disgust?

[fred the red]

Mammy and Pappy are from the black, black south I believe.

His Pappy is from Andytown actually. Not sure about his ma.

Didnt know they sold poppies in andystown

[mylestheslasher]

You can usually tell by the name. Sean, Seamus, Eileen, Bernadette etc taig, Heather, Mervyn, Walter etc prod. If the christian name doesn't do it then the surname usually does

"Stephen Ferris" would not be a daily communicant or own rosary beads I would safely say

Bobby Sands.....

Unless you are trying to be funny, That must be one of your most idiotic posts Tony.

[Donnellys Hollow]

You can usually tell by the name. Sean, Seamus, Eileen, Bernadette etc taig, Heather, Mervyn, Walter etc prod. If the christian name doesn't do it then the surname usually does

"Stephen Ferris" would not be a daily communicant or own rosary beads I would safely say

Eh.....Martin Ferris??

Him of IRA and Sinn Féin fame.

[Jim_Murphy_74]

It's a Cork thing apparently:

Dear Editor,
On December 1, 1920, the Auxiliary Division, RIC, Macroom Castle, Cork, 'ordered that all male inhabitants of Macroom and all males passing through Macroom shall not appear in public with their hands in their pockets. Any male infringing this order is liable to be shot on sight'.
It has been the habit of Corkmen to assert a right to keep their hands in their pockets in the presence of British authority figures ever since. The more often it happens the more it should reassure British personages that no harm will come to them, and that, therefore, it is not necessary to shoot Irishmen with deficient deportment.

This may explain why Irish and Munster Rugby star Ronan O'Gara, from Cork, kept his hands in his pockets when he met Queen Elizabeth, from London, recently. Whether the historical basis for O'Gara's stance was part of the IRFU's defence of his actions (Examiner, May 9th) is another matter.

Yours etc,
Niall Meehan

(From Times letter page!)

[orangeman]

You can usually tell by the name. Sean, Seamus, Eileen, Bernadette etc taig, Heather, Mervyn, Walter etc prod. If the christian name doesn't do it then the surname usually does

"Stephen Ferris" would not be a daily communicant or own rosary beads I would safely say

Believe it or not but you're wrong on this one. Stephen is a great lad and is a winner.

[Lar Naparka]

It's a Cork thing apparently:

Dear Editor,
On December 1, 1920, the Auxiliary Division, RIC, Macroom Castle, Cork, 'ordered that all male inhabitants of Macroom and all males passing through Macroom shall not appear in public with their hands in their pockets. Any male infringing this order is liable to be shot on sight'.
It has been the habit of Corkmen to assert a right to keep their hands in their pockets in the presence of British authority figures ever since. The more often it happens the more it should reassure British personages that no harm will come to them, and that, therefore, it is not necessary to shoot Irishmen with deficient deportment.

This may explain why Irish and Munster Rugby star Ronan O'Gara, from Cork, kept his hands in his pockets when he met Queen Elizabeth, from London, recently. Whether the historical basis for O'Gara's stance was part of the IRFU's defence of his actions (Examiner, May 9th) is another matter.

Yours etc,
Niall Meehan

(From Times letter page!)

It may indeed be a Cork thing but I feel Ronan has pretty strong Nationalist views of his own.
I've noticed in telly closeups that he doesn't open his mouth when "Ireland's Call" is being rendered. On the other hand, he gives it welly for the singing of Amhran na bhFiann.
I asked around and was told that he objects to anything other than the national anthem being used to represent the team when games are played in Dublin.

[ziggysego]

It may indeed be a Cork thing but I feel Ronan has pretty strong Nationalist views of his own.
I've noticed in telly closeups that he doesn't open his mouth when "Ireland's Call" is being rendered. On the other hand, he gives it welly for the singing of Amhran na bhFiann.
I asked around and was told that he objects to anything other than the national anthem being used to represent the team when games are played in Dublin.

I've noticed that about him too.

[stephenite]

It's a Cork thing apparently:

Dear Editor,
On December 1, 1920, the Auxiliary Division, RIC, Macroom Castle, Cork, 'ordered that all male inhabitants of Macroom and all males passing through Macroom shall not appear in public with their hands in their pockets. Any male infringing this order is liable to be shot on sight'.
It has been the habit of Corkmen to assert a right to keep their hands in their pockets in the presence of British authority figures ever since. The more often it happens the more it should reassure British personages that no harm will come to them, and that, therefore, it is not necessary to shoot Irishmen with deficient deportment.

This may explain why Irish and Munster Rugby star Ronan O'Gara, from Cork, kept his hands in his pockets when he met Queen Elizabeth, from London, recently. Whether the historical basis for O'Gara's stance was part of the IRFU's defence of his actions (Examiner, May 9th) is another matter.

Yours etc,
Niall Meehan

(From Times letter page!)

It may indeed be a Cork thing but I feel Ronan has pretty strong Nationalist views of his own.
I've noticed in telly closeups that he doesn't open his mouth when "Ireland's Call" is being rendered. On the other hand, he gives it welly for the singing of Amhran na bhFiann.
I asked around and was told that he objects to anything other than the national anthem being used to represent the team when games are played in Dublin.

Yes, bit that's not a huge deal - there would be plenty of Northern based players that wouldn't have opened their mouth but gave it welly for Irelands Call. It's why there is two anthems

[Roger]

It's a Cork thing apparently:

Dear Editor,
On December 1, 1920, the Auxiliary Division, RIC, Macroom Castle, Cork, 'ordered that all male inhabitants of Macroom and all males passing through Macroom shall not appear in public with their hands in their pockets. Any male infringing this order is liable to be shot on sight'.
It has been the habit of Corkmen to assert a right to keep their hands in their pockets in the presence of British authority figures ever since. The more often it happens the more it should reassure British personages that no harm will come to them, and that, therefore, it is not necessary to shoot Irishmen with deficient deportment.

This may explain why Irish and Munster Rugby star Ronan O'Gara, from Cork, kept his hands in his pockets when he met Queen Elizabeth, from London, recently. Whether the historical basis for O'Gara's stance was part of the IRFU's defence of his actions (Examiner, May 9th) is another matter.

Yours etc,
Niall Meehan

(From Times letter page!)

It may indeed be a Cork thing but I feel Ronan has pretty strong Nationalist views of his own.
I've noticed in telly closeups that he doesn't open his mouth when "Ireland's Call" is being rendered. On the other hand, he gives it welly for the singing of Amhran na bhFiann.
I asked around and was told that he objects to anything other than the national anthem being used to represent the team when games are played in Dublin.

Yes, bit that's not a huge deal - there would be plenty of Northern based players that wouldn't have opened their mouth but gave it welly for Irelands Call. It's why there is two anthems

I don't think that it is why there are two anthems at all.  There is one anthem for the team and an additional one (ie the SS)  for some strange protocol reasons when playing in the Republic. 

[Franko]

It's a Cork thing apparently:

Dear Editor,
On December 1, 1920, the Auxiliary Division, RIC, Macroom Castle, Cork, 'ordered that all male inhabitants of Macroom and all males passing through Macroom shall not appear in public with their hands in their pockets. Any male infringing this order is liable to be shot on sight'.
It has been the habit of Corkmen to assert a right to keep their hands in their pockets in the presence of British authority figures ever since. The more often it happens the more it should reassure British personages that no harm will come to them, and that, therefore, it is not necessary to shoot Irishmen with deficient deportment.

This may explain why Irish and Munster Rugby star Ronan O'Gara, from Cork, kept his hands in his pockets when he met Queen Elizabeth, from London, recently. Whether the historical basis for O'Gara's stance was part of the IRFU's defence of his actions (Examiner, May 9th) is another matter.

Yours etc,
Niall Meehan

(From Times letter page!)

It may indeed be a Cork thing but I feel Ronan has pretty strong Nationalist views of his own.
I've noticed in telly closeups that he doesn't open his mouth when "Ireland's Call" is being rendered. On the other hand, he gives it welly for the singing of Amhran na bhFiann.
I asked around and was told that he objects to anything other than the national anthem being used to represent the team when games are played in Dublin.

Yes, bit that's not a huge deal - there would be plenty of Northern based players that wouldn't have opened their mouth but gave it welly for Irelands Call. It's why there is two anthems

I don't think that it is why there are two anthems at all.  There is one anthem for the team and an additional one (ie the SS)  for some strange protocol reasons when playing in the Republic. 

Or possibly, just possibly, the reason for playing Amhran na bhFiann is because it is the national anthem of Ireland - and Ireland's Call is the PC anthem played 'for some strange protocol reasons'....? 

[Roger]

Or possibly, just possibly, the reason for playing Amhran na bhFiann is because it is the national anthem of Ireland - and Ireland's Call is the PC anthem played 'for some strange protocol reasons'....? 

The former is inaccurate and the latter is the reason according to the IRFU. 

[Orior]

Or possibly, just possibly, the reason for playing Amhran na bhFiann is because it is the national anthem of Ireland - and Ireland's Call is the PC anthem played 'for some strange protocol reasons'....? 

The former is inaccurate and the latter is the reason according to the IRFU. 

Are you the most oppressed person in the world roger?

[Roger]

Or possibly, just possibly, the reason for playing Amhran na bhFiann is because it is the national anthem of Ireland - and Ireland's Call is the PC anthem played 'for some strange protocol reasons'....? 

The former is inaccurate and the latter is the reason according to the IRFU. 

Are you the most oppressed person in the world roger?

Absolutely not.  I don't feel oppressed at all.

There's people on here seem to think I'm some sort of oppressor though. 

[longrunsthefox]

Probably not an opppressor as you're days of oppressing are over but definently very bitter and obsessed with what your perceived enemy is doing.