'GAA Athletes for a No Vote'

Started by Jinxy, April 21, 2018, 08:17:08 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

Jinxy

https://twitter.com/EDDIEBARRETT/status/987815661094277120

Probably going to see a lot of this type of thing over the next couple of days if the GAA don't act quickly to distance themselves from this specific incident and also to clarify their 'non-political' stance in general.
Social media is full of self-righteous clowns who expect those they disagree with to be punished simply for holding an opposing viewpoint.
My understanding is that they are not in breach of any of the association's rules, therefore to suggest they be 'suspended' is absurd.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

Fear ón Srath Bán

The GAA should not be used as a vehicle for either side in this unavoidably divisive debate, and Mickey Harte et al. should be more self-aware than that, and just steer fecking clear, for once.

But for (rather pathetic) partitionists to indulge their petty political biases is equally reprehensible -- give it a rest too, things may catch you up before you know where you really are, and who or what has jurisdiction where might just be a trivial fading memory where this island is concerned, and sooner than you think.
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

Syferus

Quote from: Jinxy on April 21, 2018, 11:22:56 PM
http://www.hoganstand.com/Article/Index/284050

'The launch takes place at 2pm in the Ballyfermot Sports and Fitness Centre where the GAA stars will campaign for a 'No' vote in the upcoming referendum on the Eighth Amendment.

The GAA stars will conduct a skills training session for local children from 2-3pm, followed by a press availability and the reading out of an official statement thereafter.'


Who in their right mind is going to supply their kids for this photo op?

This definitely goes way too far.

macdanger2

Just checked there and the name of the group is "Gaelic Athletes for Life" rather than GAA athletes. A minor but significant difference tbf

whitey

Sure wasnt Enda and a gang over in Ruislip at the Mayo game campaigning against Brexit outside the stadium.

And the (hammered) Mayo fan was interviewed afterwards by RTE complaining about all the foreigners coming in taking the jobs.

Mickey Harte is entitled to his opinion. He is recognized and respected North and South, but why in Gods name (if he/she exists) would anyone cast their vote based on what the manager of a football team has to say on the matter.



Syferus

Quote from: whitey on April 22, 2018, 03:14:33 AM
Sure wasnt Enda and a gang over in Ruislip at the Mayo game campaigning against Brexit outside the stadium.

And the (hammered) Mayo fan was interviewed afterwards by RTE complaining about all the foreigners coming in taking the jobs.

Mickey Harte is entitled to his opinion. He is recognized and respected North and South, but why in Gods name (if he/she exists) would anyone cast their vote based on what the manager of a football team has to say on the matter.

I'll correct myself. You're the real king of the bad take.

whitey

Quote from: Syferus on April 22, 2018, 04:30:04 AM
Quote from: whitey on April 22, 2018, 03:14:33 AM
Sure wasnt Enda and a gang over in Ruislip at the Mayo game campaigning against Brexit outside the stadium.

And the (hammered) Mayo fan was interviewed afterwards by RTE complaining about all the foreigners coming in taking the jobs.

Mickey Harte is entitled to his opinion. He is recognized and respected North and South, but why in Gods name (if he/she exists) would anyone cast their vote based on what the manager of a football team has to say on the matter.

I'll correct myself. You're the real king of the bad take.

Dont you have a sheep to be attending to, or a Brendan Shine concert to attend rather than criticizing very intelligent and meaningful posts like mine?

seafoid

"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

BennyHarp

It's scary how quickly people point the "you aren't part of us" finger when it suits them. Of course the GAA name shouldn't be bought into this debate but neither should people from the north's right to have a view on it. It's our country too. Hardly any wonder partition was allowed to happen when you scrape the surface and see what the true colours of how partitionist some people from the south actually are. Regardless of the abortion debate it's depressing how some people from the south view the north of this country.
That was never a square ball!!

seafoid

#39
Quote from: BennyHarp on April 22, 2018, 06:42:13 AM
It's scary how quickly people point the "you aren't part of us" finger when it suits them. Of course the GAA name shouldn't be bought into this debate but neither should people from the north's right to have a view on it. It's our country too. Hardly any wonder partition was allowed to happen when you scrape the surface and see what the true colours of how partitionist some people from the south actually are. Regardless of the abortion debate it's depressing how some people from the south view the north of this country.
It is.
As if the border is stronger than history and culture.
Nationalism works by emphasising the group and differentiating it from outsiders. The Roi has unfinished business in the North so excluding part of the nation does not work.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

rrhf

Whatever brings debate and awareness to the fore in a national referendum is to be welcomed from whatever angle it comes.  A referendum is not necessarily a political issue and that is borne out by swathes of different opinions across different political parties and people.   It is in my eyes a societal, civil, moral potentially and ultimately legal issue that is being voted on. Anyone who thinks this is a political owned referendum needs to think a little deeper. Therefore anyone political, non political of any description is entitled to inform debate and lobby. Suppression of views at this timeis anti democratic.
Incidently,!and on an unrelated point  without being critical or otherwise of the significant visit of the Queen to the Gaa headquarters where players officials and administrators including J S involved themselves was potentially a much more a political statement than this civi debate and poll. We probably do irony fairly well well on this board.

LooseCannon

Quote from: macdanger2 on April 22, 2018, 02:49:48 AM
Just checked there and the name of the group is "Gaelic Athletes for Life" rather than GAA athletes. A minor but significant difference tbf

Lar Naparka

Where Mickey Harte comes from doesn't bother me s there are others involved who live south of the border.
But I do object to the use of a GAA club's premises to promote the cause of any party involved in a political issue of any sort. The forthcoming referendum is a political matter, albeit not a party political one, as the electorate are being asked to cast their votes one way or another..
I particularly object to the involvement of children to promote the cause of either side in the present campaign. This  move has feck all to do with the kids' football skills and feck everything to do with persuading parents and friends to support their agenda in a very unsubtle way.
Nil Carborundum Illegitemi

Jinxy

Quote from: macdanger2 on April 22, 2018, 02:49:48 AM
Just checked there and the name of the group is "Gaelic Athletes for Life" rather than GAA athletes. A minor but significant difference tbf

'GAA Athletes for a NO vote'


'GAA Athletes for a NO vote' has launched its campaign, in advance of the Referendum on the Eighth Amendment.

The Referendum will take place on Friday May 25, 2018.

'GAA Athletes for a NO vote' launched its campaign earlier today (Saturday, April 21), at Ballyfermot Sports Centre in Dublin.

The group said it also planned to issue a series of videos, featuring well-known GAA players over the coming month, in which the players will give their reasons for voting NO.

Today's launch of ''GAA Athletes for a NO vote' was attended by: Joe Sheridan (Meath), Patrick Gallagher (Antrim), Aoife Cassidy (Derry, All Ireland Camogie winning captain), Anne-Marie McDonagh (Galway Ladies Football) and Micky Harte (Tyrone Manager).

A statement issued at the event said: "The mission statement in the GAA's Strategic Plan assures us that, 'We actively seek to engage with and include all members of our society.'

"The GAA's vision is 'that everyone be welcome to participate fully in our games and culture, that they thrive and develop their potential, and be inspired to keep a lifelong engagement with our Association.'

"Many young men and women are wondering how to vote. The GAA insists that there is a place for everybody in our Association, regardless of ability, or disability, regardless of background, regardless of race.

"We are an inclusive organisation. There is a space for everybody at our table. Sport is a place where people come together to test themselves, to strive for greatness, to fulfil their potential, and to express their unique gifts as part of a team.


https://www.donegalnow.com/news/gaa-athletes-no-vote/220650

Those are fairly muddy waters, at best.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

Jinxy

If you were any use you'd be playing.