I see the psni are harassing nationalists again in Belfast, claiming that hurls are weapons, given that a fair amount of the peelers are from a nationalistic background I am struggling to understand why this is being allowed to happen.
The GAA is still on the radar for these bastards and the next time they harass a young fella for carrying a cricket bat will be the first time!
Sadly I see very little progress being made in the wee six and it sickens me that the nationalist community is still targeted by the policing body in place in the six counties!
Does it really surprise you? A change of name and uniform and we're all supposed to think everything is hunky dory.
By the way, does anyone really carry around a cricket bat?!
Quote from: BennyCake on March 11, 2014, 06:31:12 PM
Does it really surprise you? A change of name and uniform and we're all supposed to think everything is hunky dory.
By the way, does anyone really carry around a cricket bat?!
There is one major difference, there are a lot more people of the nationalist persuasion in the peelers these days, a ton more, that this goes on and is allowed to go on is a disgrace.
Yes people carry cricket bats around, usually in sports bags but they do!
Any link? Or even context?
Seen a protest in Andytown at the weekend with banners saying hurling is our heritage. I know a young lad from my own club stopped the other day and questioned over the carrying go a hurl?
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 11, 2014, 06:53:34 PM
Any link? Or even context?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBlFr1ZTo-E
Was it that one incident??
Some psni officer is in a bit of trouble i suspect...
What about baseball bats? Are they weapons or sporting equipment? If you had a choice, would you rather be attacked by a bunch youths wielding baseball bats or hurls? Do you think your skull would know the difference?
Just asking like.
Quote from: Myles Na G. on March 11, 2014, 08:49:49 PM
What about baseball bats? Are they weapons or sporting equipment? If you had a choice, would you rather be attacked by a bunch youths wielding baseball bats or hurls? Do you think your skull would know the difference?
Just asking like.
You seem to put both into the 'weapons' category. Just saying like.
Quote from: Myles Na G. on March 11, 2014, 08:49:49 PM
What about baseball bats? Are they weapons or sporting equipment? If you had a choice, would you rather be attacked by a bunch youths wielding baseball bats or hurls? Do you think your skull would know the difference?
Just asking like.
Good man Myles. High quality response.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 11, 2014, 09:00:11 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on March 11, 2014, 08:49:49 PM
What about baseball bats? Are they weapons or sporting equipment? If you had a choice, would you rather be attacked by a bunch youths wielding baseball bats or hurls? Do you think your skull would know the difference?
Just asking like.
You seem to put both into the 'weapons' category. Just saying like.
Odd. Can't think why I would've done that.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/masked-gang-attack-man-with-baseball-bats-in-belfast-29457001.html
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/baseball-bat-wielding-man-who-tried-to-get-into-victims-car-spared-jail-29883299.html
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/pair-attacked-by-man-wielding-hurley-stick-29439104.html
http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/regional/residents-call-for-an-end-to-sectarian-attacks-1-5329520
The psni having a larger percentage of Catholics does not necessarily translate to a larger percentage of nationalists.in fact I'd say that the ones joining up are the new breed of 'northern Irish' from the likes of holywood,Bangor etc who would be as familiar with a Hurley as their colleagues from a unionist background.
Myles, once again you cover yourself in glory. You have no idea of life in the 6 counties, now be a good boy and slide on please....
Quote from: Myles Na G. on March 11, 2014, 09:29:51 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 11, 2014, 09:00:11 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on March 11, 2014, 08:49:49 PM
What about baseball bats? Are they weapons or sporting equipment? If you had a choice, would you rather be attacked by a bunch youths wielding baseball bats or hurls? Do you think your skull would know the difference?
Just asking like.
You seem to put both into the 'weapons' category. Just saying like.
Odd. Can't think why I would've done that.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/masked-gang-attack-man-with-baseball-bats-in-belfast-29457001.html
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/baseball-bat-wielding-man-who-tried-to-get-into-victims-car-spared-jail-29883299.html
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/pair-attacked-by-man-wielding-hurley-stick-29439104.html
http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/regional/residents-call-for-an-end-to-sectarian-attacks-1-5329520
Are you serious? Sure anything can be a weapon if you decide to use it that way. Bottles, hammers, hockey sticks, cricket bats etc.
http://www.northantstelegraph.co.uk/news/crime/crime-news/raunds-woman-carried-out-cricket-bat-attack-1-5889448 (http://www.northantstelegraph.co.uk/news/crime/crime-news/raunds-woman-carried-out-cricket-bat-attack-1-5889448)
https://twitter.com/Guildfordpeople/status/273827622981611520 (https://twitter.com/Guildfordpeople/status/273827622981611520)
Quote from: cadhlancian on March 11, 2014, 09:41:36 PM
Myles, once again you cover yourself in glory. You have no idea of life in the 6 counties, now be a good boy and slide on please....
What makes you such an authority on life in the 6 counties?
Quote from: Myles Na G. on March 11, 2014, 08:49:49 PM
What about baseball bats? Are they weapons or sporting equipment? If you had a choice, would you rather be attacked by a bunch youths wielding baseball bats or hurls? Do you think your skull would know the difference?
Just asking like.
good question myles.. it might also be the case that the young gael carrying a baseball bat could be on his way to a game of rounders also a gaa sport. and a very enjoyable game I might add for all ages and gender, there aren't many sports where you can join your kids on the same team competitively
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on March 11, 2014, 07:04:13 PM
Seen a protest in Andytown at the weekend with banners saying hurling is our heritage. I know a young lad from my own club stopped the other day and questioned over the carrying go a hurl?
I presume ye've reported it to the Polis Ombudsman?
And have ye asked ye're MLAs to do anything about it?
Quote from: Myles Na G. on March 11, 2014, 09:29:51 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 11, 2014, 09:00:11 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on March 11, 2014, 08:49:49 PM
What about baseball bats? Are they weapons or sporting equipment? If you had a choice, would you rather be attacked by a bunch youths wielding baseball bats or hurls? Do you think your skull would know the difference?
Just asking like.
You seem to put both into the 'weapons' category. Just saying like.
Odd. Can't think why I would've done that.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/masked-gang-attack-man-with-baseball-bats-in-belfast-29457001.html
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/baseball-bat-wielding-man-who-tried-to-get-into-victims-car-spared-jail-29883299.html
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/pair-attacked-by-man-wielding-hurley-stick-29439104.html
http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/regional/residents-call-for-an-end-to-sectarian-attacks-1-5329520
Why does anyone ever bother indulging you?? Pathetic.
No surprise these young assholes trying to climb the ladder thinking they've something to prove by doing their own kind.
The PSNI have to tread very, very carefully here as there has been Legal Precedence set on this issue, relating to a similar situation with an Irish fella living in London in the 1980s/90s (can't remember the specific year).
He was arrested and charged with carrying an offensive weapon and took his case to the Court where he won the case, demonstrating in the process, the skills of hurling to the magistrate.
From memory the magistrate used the analogy of a person carrying a hockey stick or cricket bat and concluded that the carrying of either of those two pieces of sports equipment were no different to carry a hurl.
I've googled this each and every way I can and all I can find is the same story on republican websites, one young girl and one young lad in west Belfast stopped and questioned for carrying hurls. In the young fella's case there also seems to be some issue of trespass on NI Railways property, which in the youtube video he denies. When I go outside my front door on any given evening I'm quite likely to see scores of kids with hurls on the Ormeau and Ravenhill Roads, some of them being my neighbours' kids. Haven't heard anybody talking about PSNI stopping and questioning young gaels. So basically we have two minor instances of kids being stopped with the possibility that some individual PSNI officers are being a bit officious, yet the way people on here are reacting you'd think there was a high level PSNI policy to stamp out Gaelic games. If there is any sort of problem at all in the west of the city, it could be addressed very quickly and very effectively by one of the Shinner councillors or MLAs who sit on the policing board or on the Police and Community Safety Partnerships. A quick word with one of the senior peelers, with whom they're all on first name terms, and hey presto, problem sorted. Why not get CRJ on the case? They have top cops on speed dial. But no. Let's turn it into Oppression of the Croppies: The Movie. Let's wheel out some oul' doll who once did time in Armagh jail. Let's all line up for the camera and tell the world how we're victimised by state forces for our culture. Absolutely pathetic. Truly.
Quote from: Myles Na G. on March 12, 2014, 06:40:35 AM
I've googled this each and every way I can and all I can find is the same story on republican websites, one young girl and one young lad in west Belfast stopped and questioned for carrying hurls. In the young fella's case there also seems to be some issue of trespass on NI Railways property, which in the youtube video he denies. When I go outside my front door on any given evening I'm quite likely to see scores of kids with hurls on the Ormeau and Ravenhill Roads, some of them being my neighbours' kids. Haven't heard anybody talking about PSNI stopping and questioning young gaels. So basically we have two minor instances of kids being stopped with the possibility that some individual PSNI officers are being a bit officious, yet the way people on here are reacting you'd think there was a high level PSNI policy to stamp out Gaelic games. If there is any sort of problem at all in the west of the city, it could be addressed very quickly and very effectively by one of the Shinner councillors or MLAs who sit on the policing board or on the Police and Community Safety Partnerships. A quick word with one of the senior peelers, with whom they're all on first name terms, and hey presto, problem sorted. Why not get CRJ on the case? They have top cops on speed dial. But no. Let's turn it into Oppression of the Croppies: The Movie. Let's wheel out some oul' doll who once did time in Armagh jail. Let's all line up for the camera and tell the world how we're victimised by state forces for our culture. Absolutely pathetic. Truly.
Well if folks can get knickers in such a twist about a piece of fabric legally and democratically removed from the top of a building.........what should we call that film?
Maybe the lads and aul dolls outside city hall on a Saturday (weather permitting) could pass on lessons in how to be
Quotevictimised by state forces for our culture
The point is that even if it's only 1 policeman at it - that's 1 too many. It's not being over officious, it's being provocative and since this was a hallmark of the RUC why allow it to creep into what is theoretically supposed to be a shared police force for everyone to have faith in?
Pathetic is right but should be applied to any PSNI involved in such nonsense.
Why has no one mentioned golf clubs as weapons?? I saw someone meet a nasty end in Midsomer Murders once at the end of a golf stick.
Quote from: east down gael on March 11, 2014, 09:36:28 PM
The psni having a larger percentage of Catholics does not necessarily translate to a larger percentage of nationalists.in fact I'd say that the ones joining up are the new breed of 'northern Irish' from the likes of holywood,Bangor etc who would be as familiar with a Hurley as their colleagues from a unionist background.
I'd say there's more chance of seeing hurleys in Holywood or Bangor as there is in East Down, my fellow gael.
I'd regularly see hockey sticks carried with wild abandon in Newtownards which I've no problem with as no doubt they play for a school or club of some sorts, similarly with hurls.
Not sure how many baseball clubs are in the north though!!
Quote from: johnneycool on March 12, 2014, 10:44:51 AM
Quote from: east down gael on March 11, 2014, 09:36:28 PM
The psni having a larger percentage of Catholics does not necessarily translate to a larger percentage of nationalists.in fact I'd say that the ones joining up are the new breed of 'northern Irish' from the likes of holywood,Bangor etc who would be as familiar with a Hurley as their colleagues from a unionist background.
I'd say there's more chance of seeing hurleys in Holywood or Bangor as there is in East Down, my fellow gael.
I'd regularly see hockey sticks carried with wild abandon in Newtownards which I've no problem with as no doubt they play for a school or club of some sorts, similarly with hurls.
Not sure how many baseball clubs are in the north though!!
Or clubs that play rounders lol. This is always going to cause a stir, I'd say the percentage is very small (of people pulled by cops). Was searched every week (3 to 4 times) heading up the road to the club during the troubles, never complained once nor did I have the hurl taken off me. It seems to me people have a need for publicity and with the instant media out there it's being used to hyperbole everything.
Hyperbole my hole! If you cannot see this for what it is you are either named myles or you are an idiot, same thing if you ask me!
Quote from: stew on March 12, 2014, 02:53:00 PM
Hyperbole my hole! If you cannot see this for what it is you are either named myles or you are an idiot, same thing if you ask me!
I'm sure life in Wisconsin allows you to relate closely to day to day activities on the streets of Belfast.
Amusing that loyalists refer to PSNIRA.
Quote from: gallsman on March 12, 2014, 03:44:09 PM
Quote from: stew on March 12, 2014, 02:53:00 PM
Hyperbole my hole! If you cannot see this for what it is you are either named myles or you are an idiot, same thing if you ask me!
I'm sure life in Wisconsin allows you to relate closely to day to day activities on the streets of Belfast.
I lived in the north for thirty years and know full well what way nationalists are treated you smarmy bastard.
Obviously there is only one myles on here, do you always have to be such an arsehole?
Quote from: stew on March 12, 2014, 02:53:00 PM
Hyperbole my hole! If you cannot see this for what it is you are either named myles or you are an idiot, same thing if you ask me!
Get a f**king grip. The reality is people are more worried about the price of bread than a peeler telling a lad off for carrying a hurl!!! Who gives a shit ffs?
An Aer Lingus check in person at a London airport heard Northern Ireland accents and commented to the passengers " have you left your bombs at home today ?".
The passengers were very annoyed and contacted Aer Lingus.
The fella was on Joe Duffeeeeeeeeey today talking all about it.
Will someone think of the kids?????????????/
A bit pathetic. "It's our kulture so it is"
Quote from: tyroneman on March 12, 2014, 06:49:41 AM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on March 12, 2014, 06:40:35 AM
I've googled this each and every way I can and all I can find is the same story on republican websites, one young girl and one young lad in west Belfast stopped and questioned for carrying hurls. In the young fella's case there also seems to be some issue of trespass on NI Railways property, which in the youtube video he denies. When I go outside my front door on any given evening I'm quite likely to see scores of kids with hurls on the Ormeau and Ravenhill Roads, some of them being my neighbours' kids. Haven't heard anybody talking about PSNI stopping and questioning young gaels. So basically we have two minor instances of kids being stopped with the possibility that some individual PSNI officers are being a bit officious, yet the way people on here are reacting you'd think there was a high level PSNI policy to stamp out Gaelic games. If there is any sort of problem at all in the west of the city, it could be addressed very quickly and very effectively by one of the Shinner councillors or MLAs who sit on the policing board or on the Police and Community Safety Partnerships. A quick word with one of the senior peelers, with whom they're all on first name terms, and hey presto, problem sorted. Why not get CRJ on the case? They have top cops on speed dial. But no. Let's turn it into Oppression of the Croppies: The Movie. Let's wheel out some oul' doll who once did time in Armagh jail. Let's all line up for the camera and tell the world how we're victimised by state forces for our culture. Absolutely pathetic. Truly.
Well if folks can get knickers in such a twist about a piece of fabric legally and democratically removed from the top of a building.........what should we call that film?
Maybe the lads and aul dolls outside city hall on a Saturday (weather permitting) could pass on lessons in how to be Quotevictimised by state forces for our culture
So because the fleg people behave like morons, we should behave like morons too? Strong argument, but you haven't persuaded me. ::)
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2014, 08:21:02 PM
Quote from: stew on March 12, 2014, 02:53:00 PM
Hyperbole my hole! If you cannot see this for what it is you are either named myles or you are an idiot, same thing if you ask me!
Get a f**king grip. The reality is people are more worried about the price of bread than a peeler telling a lad off for carrying a hurl!!! Who gives a shit ffs?
So what you are saying is, that because the economy is very important, any cop should be free to harass a youth for carrying hurl in public, and, again because the economy is so important; if anyone thinks a cop harassing someone from carrying a hurl is unacceptable, they should shut up, be a good little croppie, and just lie down?
Quote from: hardstation on March 12, 2014, 03:35:37 PM
Quote from: stew on March 12, 2014, 02:53:00 PM
Hyperbole my hole! If you cannot see this for what it is you are either named myles or you are an idiot, same thing if you ask me!
So, everyone named Myles is an idiot?
Good one, Myles.
I'm telling you this, lads with that name will definitely go places.
Quote from: Nally Stand on March 12, 2014, 11:36:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2014, 08:21:02 PM
Quote from: stew on March 12, 2014, 02:53:00 PM
Hyperbole my hole! If you cannot see this for what it is you are either named myles or you are an idiot, same thing if you ask me!
Get a f**king grip. The reality is people are more worried about the price of bread than a peeler telling a lad off for carrying a hurl!!! Who gives a shit ffs?
So what you are saying is, that because the economy is very important, any cop should be free to harass a youth for carrying hurl in public, and, again because the economy is so important; if anyone thinks a cop harassing someone from carrying a hurl is unacceptable, they should shut up, be a good little croppie, and just lie down?
No, they should contact their local MLA, councillor or community rep / ex combatant i.e the people who control the PSNI and hold the organisation to account, and make a complaint. What they shouldn't do is to start crying that big bad state forces are picking on them and suppressing Our Culture, because these days republicans like Gerry Kelly and Martin McGuinness and Alex Maskey and Fra McCann, etc etc - these people
are the state / establishment. So, pick up the phone or go round to their political premises and get them to do their job and sort out any problem with local policing. Stop getting on like you've just been put on a prison ship to the colonies.
Quote from: Nally Stand on March 12, 2014, 11:36:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2014, 08:21:02 PM
Quote from: stew on March 12, 2014, 02:53:00 PM
Hyperbole my hole! If you cannot see this for what it is you are either named myles or you are an idiot, same thing if you ask me!
Get a f**king grip. The reality is people are more worried about the price of bread than a peeler telling a lad off for carrying a hurl!!! Who gives a shit ffs?
So what you are saying is, that because the economy is very important, any cop should be free to harass a youth for carrying hurl in public, and, again because the economy is so important; if anyone thinks a cop harassing someone from carrying a hurl is unacceptable, they should shut up, be a good little croppie, and just lie down?
Where did I say that? Typical of you to twist words. I said people really don't give a fcuk, cops harassing someone is wrong. Christ knows I've seen it and dealt with myself on a daily bases. This is nothing compared to what went on in the past, but hey, why not keep things going, if the lad was harrassed then he should put in a complaint, move on ffs.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2014, 09:34:33 AM
Quote from: Nally Stand on March 12, 2014, 11:36:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2014, 08:21:02 PM
Quote from: stew on March 12, 2014, 02:53:00 PM
Hyperbole my hole! If you cannot see this for what it is you are either named myles or you are an idiot, same thing if you ask me!
Get a f**king grip. The reality is people are more worried about the price of bread than a peeler telling a lad off for carrying a hurl!!! Who gives a shit ffs?
So what you are saying is, that because the economy is very important, any cop should be free to harass a youth for carrying hurl in public, and, again because the economy is so important; if anyone thinks a cop harassing someone from carrying a hurl is unacceptable, they should shut up, be a good little croppie, and just lie down?
Where did I say that? Typical of you to twist words. I said people really don't give a fcuk, cops harassing someone is wrong. Christ knows I've seen it and dealt with myself on a daily bases. This is nothing compared to what went on in the past, but hey, why not keep things going, if the lad was harrassed then he should put in a complaint, move on ffs.
Fair enough. I just thought you didn't think police harassment was important to take issue with when you said "who gives a shit ffs" and told a poster who criticised it to "get a f**king grip". My mistake.
Quote from: Myles Na G. on March 13, 2014, 06:36:53 AM
Quote from: Nally Stand on March 12, 2014, 11:36:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2014, 08:21:02 PM
Quote from: stew on March 12, 2014, 02:53:00 PM
Hyperbole my hole! If you cannot see this for what it is you are either named myles or you are an idiot, same thing if you ask me!
Get a f**king grip. The reality is people are more worried about the price of bread than a peeler telling a lad off for carrying a hurl!!! Who gives a shit ffs?
So what you are saying is, that because the economy is very important, any cop should be free to harass a youth for carrying hurl in public, and, again because the economy is so important; if anyone thinks a cop harassing someone from carrying a hurl is unacceptable, they should shut up, be a good little croppie, and just lie down?
No, they should contact their local MLA, councillor or community rep / ex combatant i.e the people who control the PSNI and hold the organisation to account, and make a complaint. What they shouldn't do is to start crying that big bad state forces are picking on them and suppressing Our Culture, because these days republicans like Gerry Kelly and Martin McGuinness and Alex Maskey and Fra McCann, etc etc - these people are the state / establishment. So, pick up the phone or go round to their political premises and get them to do their job and sort out any problem with local policing. Stop getting on like you've just been put on a prison ship to the colonies.
I would have to agree with that. The other MOPE approach just plays into the hands of dissidents who do not want the structures to work.
Quote from: Nally Stand on March 13, 2014, 04:30:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2014, 09:34:33 AM
Quote from: Nally Stand on March 12, 2014, 11:36:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2014, 08:21:02 PM
Quote from: stew on March 12, 2014, 02:53:00 PM
Hyperbole my hole! If you cannot see this for what it is you are either named myles or you are an idiot, same thing if you ask me!
Get a f**king grip. The reality is people are more worried about the price of bread than a peeler telling a lad off for carrying a hurl!!! Who gives a shit ffs?
So what you are saying is, that because the economy is very important, any cop should be free to harass a youth for carrying hurl in public, and, again because the economy is so important; if anyone thinks a cop harassing someone from carrying a hurl is unacceptable, they should shut up, be a good little croppie, and just lie down?
Where did I say that? Typical of you to twist words. I said people really don't give a fcuk, cops harassing someone is wrong. Christ knows I've seen it and dealt with myself on a daily bases. This is nothing compared to what went on in the past, but hey, why not keep things going, if the lad was harrassed then he should put in a complaint, move on ffs.
Fair enough. I just thought you didn't think police harassment was important to take issue with when you said "who gives a shit ffs" and told a poster who criticised it to "get a f**king grip". My mistake.
As usual MR2 is all over the shop, maybe he just cares about the police harassing him on a daily basis but does not give a shit about anyone else being harassed!
Quote from: stew on March 13, 2014, 04:40:35 PM
Quote from: Nally Stand on March 13, 2014, 04:30:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2014, 09:34:33 AM
Quote from: Nally Stand on March 12, 2014, 11:36:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2014, 08:21:02 PM
Quote from: stew on March 12, 2014, 02:53:00 PM
Hyperbole my hole! If you cannot see this for what it is you are either named myles or you are an idiot, same thing if you ask me!
Get a f**king grip. The reality is people are more worried about the price of bread than a peeler telling a lad off for carrying a hurl!!! Who gives a shit ffs?
So what you are saying is, that because the economy is very important, any cop should be free to harass a youth for carrying hurl in public, and, again because the economy is so important; if anyone thinks a cop harassing someone from carrying a hurl is unacceptable, they should shut up, be a good little croppie, and just lie down?
Where did I say that? Typical of you to twist words. I said people really don't give a fcuk, cops harassing someone is wrong. Christ knows I've seen it and dealt with myself on a daily bases. This is nothing compared to what went on in the past, but hey, why not keep things going, if the lad was harrassed then he should put in a complaint, move on ffs.
Fair enough. I just thought you didn't think police harassment was important to take issue with when you said "who gives a shit ffs" and told a poster who criticised it to "get a f**king grip". My mistake.
As usual MR2 is all over the shop, maybe he just cares about the police harassing him on a daily basis but does not give a shit about anyone else being harassed!
Police harassment:
A few weeks ago, a young man and his friends were stopped by the PSNI for carrying hurley's.
The police accused them of carrying dangerous and offensive weapons
before attempting to take the hurley's off of them.
Seriously?? get a f**king grip
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2014, 07:40:41 PM
Police harassment:
A few weeks ago, a young man and his friends were stopped by the PSNI for carrying hurley's.
The police accused them of carrying dangerous and offensive weapons before attempting to take the hurley's off of them.
Seriously?? get a f**king grip
Apostrophe harrassment :-\
Quote from: Rossfan on March 13, 2014, 09:09:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2014, 07:40:41 PM
Police harassment:
A few weeks ago, a young man and his friends were stopped by the PSNI for carrying hurley's.
The police accused them of carrying dangerous and offensive weapons before attempting to take the hurley's off of them.
Seriously?? get a f**king grip
Apostrophe harrassment :-\
spelling
harassment ;)
Quote from: Rossfan on March 13, 2014, 09:09:14 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2014, 07:40:41 PM
Police harassment:
A few weeks ago, a young man and his friends were stopped by the PSNI for carrying hurley's.
The police accused them of carrying dangerous and offensive weapons before attempting to take the hurley's off of them.
Seriously?? get a f**king grip
Apostrophe harrassment :-\
Written by GAA media, I just cut and paste it
http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=211896
QuoteA young man has been fined £85 by the PSNI for hurling in a Belfast street.
Twenty-year-old Thomas Thibodeau was enjoying a puck-about with a friend on Jerusalem Street on Wednesday evening when two PSNI officers intervened and issued him with a fixed penalty notice for disorderly behaviour.
Antrim County Board chairman Jim Murray says the incident is reminiscent of the "dark days" in Northern Ireland: "I thought those days had gone," he states in The Irish News. "It's something we will be taking up ourselves and we will be arranging a meeting with the PSNI. It's not on and is taking us back to the dark days."
A PSNI spokesman explained how hurling can be construed as disorderly behaviour: "It is the manner in which the equipment is being used or the associated behaviour and risk that this may pose to others, i.e. anti-social behaviour and criminal damage."
Sinn Fein's Pat Sheehan has called for discrimination against Irish games to be stamped out immediately: "At best, there seems to be a degree of ignorance when it comes to the PSNI's attitude to gaelic games. At worst, this behaviour is a throwback to an attitude which treated all things Irish as alien."
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on March 14, 2014, 03:08:28 PM
http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=211896
QuoteA young man has been fined £85 by the PSNI for hurling in a Belfast street.
Twenty-year-old Thomas Thibodeau was enjoying a puck-about with a friend on Jerusalem Street on Wednesday evening when two PSNI officers intervened and issued him with a fixed penalty notice for disorderly behaviour.
Antrim County Board chairman Jim Murray says the incident is reminiscent of the "dark days" in Northern Ireland: "I thought those days had gone," he states in The Irish News. "It's something we will be taking up ourselves and we will be arranging a meeting with the PSNI. It's not on and is taking us back to the dark days."
A PSNI spokesman explained how hurling can be construed as disorderly behaviour: "It is the manner in which the equipment is being used or the associated behaviour and risk that this may pose to others, i.e. anti-social behaviour and criminal damage."
Sinn Fein's Pat Sheehan has called for discrimination against Irish games to be stamped out immediately: "At best, there seems to be a degree of ignorance when it comes to the PSNI's attitude to gaelic games. At worst, this behaviour is a throwback to an attitude which treated all things Irish as alien."
Did this go to court ??
Quote from: hardstation on March 14, 2014, 03:24:30 PM
Quote from: orangeman on March 14, 2014, 03:21:06 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on March 14, 2014, 03:08:28 PM
http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=211896
QuoteA young man has been fined £85 by the PSNI for hurling in a Belfast street.
Twenty-year-old Thomas Thibodeau was enjoying a puck-about with a friend on Jerusalem Street on Wednesday evening when two PSNI officers intervened and issued him with a fixed penalty notice for disorderly behaviour.
Antrim County Board chairman Jim Murray says the incident is reminiscent of the "dark days" in Northern Ireland: "I thought those days had gone," he states in The Irish News. "It's something we will be taking up ourselves and we will be arranging a meeting with the PSNI. It's not on and is taking us back to the dark days."
A PSNI spokesman explained how hurling can be construed as disorderly behaviour: "It is the manner in which the equipment is being used or the associated behaviour and risk that this may pose to others, i.e. anti-social behaviour and criminal damage."
Sinn Fein's Pat Sheehan has called for discrimination against Irish games to be stamped out immediately: "At best, there seems to be a degree of ignorance when it comes to the PSNI's attitude to gaelic games. At worst, this behaviour is a throwback to an attitude which treated all things Irish as alien."
Did this go to court ??
I hope not. Jim Murray has been in court more times this year than Andy Murray FFS.
Jim didn't do anything this time.
In the history of the six has there ever been a ticket been handed out for kids playing cricket in the street?
I dont mind if they do this, I just want the psni to be consistent across the board, when they are not that is troubling to me, I hope they have to answer for this in court to get rid of the issue!
In fairness playing hurling in a street packed with parked cars is not on.
Let's see Ulster GAA make a stand here and make a statement on this subject, not the specific incident. If you can play football, American football and other games in the street, then pucking a ball shouldn't be unique.
I'm waiting GAA - let's hear ya.
Dont hold your breath for the GAA to do anything seeing as the Ulster chief sits on the policing board !!
Ironic story placement in the Irish news.
Quote from: give her dixie on March 14, 2014, 09:34:47 PM
Dont hold your breath for the GAA to do anything seeing as the Ulster chief sits on the policing board !!
That wouldn't preclude them from coming out and making a statement.
Jerusalem Street = built up area.
Evening = either means early evening, when other students were trying to do a bit of work and were getting pissed off at hurlers in the street making a lot of noise, or:
Evening = pissed up students hurling in the street late into the night.
Were they tasered? Shot with plastic batons? Beaten up and thrown in the back of a landrover?
Nope, they got a ticket. Like, for driving in a bus lane.
Jesus wept.
The chap in the Holylands should have been booted in the balls instead of fined.
Quote from: Myles Na G. on March 14, 2014, 11:04:38 PM
Jerusalem Street = built up area.
Evening = either means early evening, when other students were trying to do a bit of work and were getting pissed off at hurlers in the street making a lot of noise, or:
Evening = pissed up students hurling in the street late into the night.
Were they tasered? Shot with plastic batons? Beaten up and thrown in the back of a landrover?
Nope, they got a ticket. Like, for driving in a bus lane.
Jesus wept.
Can't see that being the case.
From the NYC ST. Patrick Day Committee - "Recently, at the request of the Counsel General of Ireland, the NYC Saint Patrick's Day Parade Committee extended an invitation to six members of the PSNI to march in the 2014 NYC Saint Patrick's Day Parade. The contingent planned to march side by side with the An Garda Síochána as a symbol of solidarity. However, many of our loyal supporters and parade participants passionately advocated against the PSNI's participation.
The people of New York City have supported our parade for many generations. While the decision to invite the PSNI was made in an effort to foster peace, we must stand behind those who help make our parade the greatest in the world. Therefore we have rescinded the invitation and the PSNI will not march in the New York City Saint Patrick's Day Parade.
Quote from: give her dixie on March 15, 2014, 01:37:26 AM
From the NYC ST. Patrick Day Committee - "Recently, at the request of the Counsel General of Ireland, the NYC Saint Patrick's Day Parade Committee extended an invitation to six members of the PSNI to march in the 2014 NYC Saint Patrick's Day Parade. The contingent planned to march side by side with the An Garda Síochána as a symbol of solidarity. However, many of our loyal supporters and parade participants passionately advocated against the PSNI's participation.
The people of New York City have supported our parade for many generations. While the decision to invite the PSNI was made in an effort to foster peace, we must stand behind those who help make our parade the greatest in the world. Therefore we have rescinded the invitation and the PSNI will not march in the New York City Saint Patrick's Day Parade.
I hope all Irish politicians withdraw their support for this parade. Are these the same Americans that fund some of our political parties?
That's a joke. Seriously bad PR.
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 15, 2014, 08:26:55 AM
Quote from: give her dixie on March 15, 2014, 01:37:26 AM
From the NYC ST. Patrick Day Committee - "Recently, at the request of the Counsel General of Ireland, the NYC Saint Patrick's Day Parade Committee extended an invitation to six members of the PSNI to march in the 2014 NYC Saint Patrick's Day Parade. The contingent planned to march side by side with the An Garda Síochána as a symbol of solidarity. However, many of our loyal supporters and parade participants passionately advocated against the PSNI's participation.
The people of New York City have supported our parade for many generations. While the decision to invite the PSNI was made in an effort to foster peace, we must stand behind those who help make our parade the greatest in the world. Therefore we have rescinded the invitation and the PSNI will not march in the New York City Saint Patrick's Day Parade.
I hope all Irish politicians withdraw their support for this parade. Are these the same Americans that fund some of our political parties?
+1.Would like to see the Garda pull out in a show of solidarity.
f**k the PR shite. Th PSNI are protecting the link with Britain and do nothing to promote independence.Not all people are getting hood-winked by this love-in with the PSNI.
Feeney will not issue a statment about the recent hurling events in Belfast as giveherdixie stated he is trying to paddle two canoes.
Quote from: orangeman on March 14, 2014, 11:57:13 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on March 14, 2014, 11:04:38 PM
Jerusalem Street = built up area.
Evening = either means early evening, when other students were trying to do a bit of work and were getting pissed off at hurlers in the street making a lot of noise, or:
Evening = pissed up students hurling in the street late into the night.
Were they tasered? Shot with plastic batons? Beaten up and thrown in the back of a landrover?
Nope, they got a ticket. Like, for driving in a bus lane.
Jesus wept.
Can't see that being the case.
As you say, very unlikely. If the PSNI are trying to make world safe for any students who might be studying in the vicinity, they should start by dishing out fines in college libraries. Most of them are noisier than a fleg protest.
Quote from: theticklemister on March 15, 2014, 08:44:30 AM
f**k the PR shite. Th PSNI are protecting the link with Britain and do nothing to promote independence.Not all people are getting hood-winked by this love-in with the PSNI.
The point is, the St Patrick's day parade should not be for the Irish Republican Nationalist Straight Catholics - if it's a celebration of all that is Irish, it should represent all colours of the country.
And not that it's relevant to this conversation, but I wouldn't expect it to be the role of any police force to promote independence.
Quote from: orangeman on March 14, 2014, 11:57:13 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on March 14, 2014, 11:04:38 PM
Jerusalem Street = built up area.
Evening = either means early evening, when other students were trying to do a bit of work and were getting pissed off at hurlers in the street making a lot of noise, or:
Evening = pissed up students hurling in the street late into the night.
Were they tasered? Shot with plastic batons? Beaten up and thrown in the back of a landrover?
Nope, they got a ticket. Like, for driving in a bus lane.
Jesus wept.
Can't see that being the case.
Does everyone in the Holylands (or other built up areas) get a ticket for making noise via sports in the streets?
Did those playing soccer or American football get ticketed?
If so then sure - thePSNI were acting even handedly or am I to believe a few lads knocking a sliotar around make so much more noise than other sports in the street?
Applying a rule, dumb or otherwise, to only one group while ignoring others is at best inconsistent at worst discriminatory.
Quote. The point is, the St Patrick's day parade should not be for the Irish Republican Nationalist Straight Catholics - if it's a celebration of all that is Irish, it should represent all colours of the country.
Agree broadly with this. Not sure though why
any group of employees, guards, PSNI or otherwise should be elevated above any other profession. If the guards get their own section do the Irish plumbers, accountants and doctors get one too?
Quote from: tyroneman on March 15, 2014, 08:55:22 AM
Quote. The point is, the St Patrick's day parade should not be for the Irish Republican Nationalist Straight Catholics - if it's a celebration of all that is Irish, it should represent all colours of the country.
Agree broadly with this. Not sure though why any group of employees, guards, PSNI or otherwise should be elevated above any other profession. If the guards get their own section do the Irish plumbers, accountants and doctors get one too?
I had heard that the 6 PSNI officers invited had been participants in the World Police & Fire Games.
Quote from: tyroneman on March 15, 2014, 08:55:22 AM
Quote from: orangeman on March 14, 2014, 11:57:13 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on March 14, 2014, 11:04:38 PM
Jerusalem Street = built up area.
Evening = either means early evening, when other students were trying to do a bit of work and were getting pissed off at hurlers in the street making a lot of noise, or:
Evening = pissed up students hurling in the street late into the night.
Were they tasered? Shot with plastic batons? Beaten up and thrown in the back of a landrover?
Nope, they got a ticket. Like, for driving in a bus lane.
Jesus wept.
Can't see that being the case.
Does everyone in the Holylands (or other built up areas) get a ticket for making noise via sports in the streets?
Did those playing soccer or American football get ticketed?
If so then sure - thePSNI were acting even handedly or am I to believe a few lads knocking a sliotar around make so much more noise than other sports in the street?
Applying a rule, dumb or otherwise, to only one group while ignoring others is at best inconsistent at worst discriminatory.
Quote. The point is, the St Patrick's day parade should not be for the Irish Republican Nationalist Straight Catholics - if it's a celebration of all that is Irish, it should represent all colours of the country.
Agree broadly with this. Not sure though why any group of employees, guards, PSNI or otherwise should be elevated above any other profession. If the guards get their own section do the Irish plumbers, accountants and doctors get one too?
Not sure about those 2 sports but if some wee sportsman was driving a few titleist down my street with a 4 iron I would hope the PSNI would put a stop to it without worrying about the R&A coming out and condemning them. Similarly if he had been launching 6's out over parked cars and near peoples windows I would like to think they would have acted.
A soccer ball has a lot less potential to do damage.
Quote from: LeoMc on March 15, 2014, 09:55:06 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on March 15, 2014, 08:55:22 AM
Quote from: orangeman on March 14, 2014, 11:57:13 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on March 14, 2014, 11:04:38 PM
Jerusalem Street = built up area.
Evening = either means early evening, when other students were trying to do a bit of work and were getting pissed off at hurlers in the street making a lot of noise, or:
Evening = pissed up students hurling in the street late into the night.
Were they tasered? Shot with plastic batons? Beaten up and thrown in the back of a landrover?
Nope, they got a ticket. Like, for driving in a bus lane.
Jesus wept.
Can't see that being the case.
Does everyone in the Holylands (or other built up areas) get a ticket for making noise via sports in the streets?
Did those playing soccer or American football get ticketed?
If so then sure - thePSNI were acting even handedly or am I to believe a few lads knocking a sliotar around make so much more noise than other sports in the street?
Applying a rule, dumb or otherwise, to only one group while ignoring others is at best inconsistent at worst discriminatory.
Quote. The point is, the St Patrick's day parade should not be for the Irish Republican Nationalist Straight Catholics - if it's a celebration of all that is Irish, it should represent all colours of the country.
Agree broadly with this. Not sure though why any group of employees, guards, PSNI or otherwise should be elevated above any other profession. If the guards get their own section do the Irish plumbers, accountants and doctors get one too?
Not sure about those 2 sports but if some wee sportsman was driving a few titleist down my street with a 4 iron I would hope the PSNI would put a stop to it without worrying about the R&A coming out and condemning them. Similarly if he had been launching 6's out over parked cars and near peoples windows I would like to think they would have acted.
A soccer ball has a lot less potential to do damage.
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I've seen panes of glass broken with a soccer ball before.
Time for the Ulster Gaa to call the cops out on this incident.
But we all know that this is not going to happen. All We can hope for is that the person who got the ticket appeals the fine and that we get to hear in public what actually happened.
The crazy thing about this is that the whole landscape has changed in this country. But in 2014 young Irish men are not allowed to have a puck around in the street without the threat of being charged with disorderly behaviour.
But you can kick a soccer ball or throw an American football.
This is a complete nonsense. A hurling ball can do a lot more damage than a football. Hurling should definitely not be allowed on a street with cars parked. For the record I think no ball sports should be played on a busy street. People are going out of their way to get offended here and I suspect the reason the GAA will not speak out against the PSNI is because the can see sense.
Quote from: EC Unique on March 15, 2014, 10:21:34 AM
This is a complete nonsense. A hurling ball can do a lot more damage than a football. Hurling should definitely not be allowed on a street with cars parked. For the record I think no ball sports should be played on a busy street. People are going out of their way to get offended here and I suspect the reason the GAA will not speak out against the PSNI is because the can see sense.
Fair enough.
So in housing estates all over the country, balls games of all types, especially hurling should be banned cos a hurling ball can cause more damage than other ball games.
And for the record here, I think you're missing the point. This lad was charged with disorderly behaviour as a result of pucking a ball around a street in Belfast.
Would a member of the Gardai EVER charge someone in Dublin, Galway, Cork with disorderly behaviour for pucking a ball around. Not in a million years.
Same shite. Different name.
We were promised a lot with the name change, and sadly they havn't lived up to the hype. While there have been some changes, the old guard of the RUC still rule the roost, and many many people are still suffering just like in the 70's and 80's.
We were promised transparency and accountability, and sadly that has not been the case. The role of the policing board "to keep them in check" has been a failure. Just a load of salaries for people who will maintain the status quo.
Last year the policing board rubber stamped the purchase of military Drones to patrol our sky and spy on anyone. I made a few inquiries as to where and who they bought them from. A member of the board told me that they did indeed approve the purchase and use, but they didn't bother to find out who was going to supply. I also asked if the £1 million purchase was put out to tender for the best price. Again, the member told me that they were not concerned with that particular detail.
I then sent a Freedom Of Information request to the PSNI. After several months, they replied with a lengthy statement that basically said it was none of my business who they bought them from as it was of national security not to disclose that info.
In relation to a tendering process, they had this to say:
"The purchase did not go out to tender but was awarded through a Direct Award Contract (DAC) after consultation with the Department of Finance's Central Procurement Directorate. During this process measures were taken to ensure value for money was achieved."
Now, given that Drones are used to kill and injure innocent people, the least we could have expected from the policing board was for them to have at least stipulated that some form of social responsibility was adhered to. Plus, given that Israel is the worlds leading Drone manufacturer with claims as to how they are "Field Tested", did it not occur to the members that there was a possibility that they were to be purchased from the rogue state? After all several members of the board claim to support Palestine and uphold the boycott of Israeli goods and services. No doubt this will be on election flyers that are dropping through our letterboxes.....
So much for accountability and putting manners on them as one member likes to boast.
The FB page that announced the PSNI wouldn't be marching has been deleted, I would say a bit of pressure has been applied.
Quote from: orangeman on March 15, 2014, 10:13:01 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on March 15, 2014, 09:55:06 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on March 15, 2014, 08:55:22 AM
Quote from: orangeman on March 14, 2014, 11:57:13 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on March 14, 2014, 11:04:38 PM
Jerusalem Street = built up area.
Evening = either means early evening, when other students were trying to do a bit of work and were getting pissed off at hurlers in the street making a lot of noise, or:
Evening = pissed up students hurling in the street late into the night.
Were they tasered? Shot with plastic batons? Beaten up and thrown in the back of a landrover?
Nope, they got a ticket. Like, for driving in a bus lane.
Jesus wept.
Can't see that being the case.
Does everyone in the Holylands (or other built up areas) get a ticket for making noise via sports in the streets?
Did those playing soccer or American football get ticketed?
If so then sure - thePSNI were acting even handedly or am I to believe a few lads knocking a sliotar around make so much more noise than other sports in the street?
Applying a rule, dumb or otherwise, to only one group while ignoring others is at best inconsistent at worst discriminatory.
Quote. The point is, the St Patrick's day parade should not be for the Irish Republican Nationalist Straight Catholics - if it's a celebration of all that is Irish, it should represent all colours of the country.
Agree broadly with this. Not sure though why any group of employees, guards, PSNI or otherwise should be elevated above any other profession. If the guards get their own section do the Irish plumbers, accountants and doctors get one too?
Not sure about those 2 sports but if some wee sportsman was driving a few titleist down my street with a 4 iron I would hope the PSNI would put a stop to it without worrying about the R&A coming out and condemning them. Similarly if he had been launching 6's out over parked cars and near peoples windows I would like to think they would have acted.
A soccer ball has a lot less potential to do damage.
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I've seen panes of glass broken with a soccer ball before.
Time for the Ulster Gaa to call the cops out on this incident.
But we all know that this is not going to happen. All We can hope for is that the person who got the ticket appeals the fine and that we get to hear in public what actually happened.
The crazy thing about this is that the whole landscape has changed in this country. But in 2014 young Irish men are not allowed to have a puck around in the street without the threat of being charged with disorderly behaviour.
But you can kick a soccer ball or throw an American football.
Would you rather get hit by a football or a sliothir (or golf ball)?
Excuse the spelling.
Quote from: LeoMc on March 15, 2014, 11:19:39 AM
Quote from: orangeman on March 15, 2014, 10:13:01 AM
Quote from: LeoMc on March 15, 2014, 09:55:06 AM
Quote from: tyroneman on March 15, 2014, 08:55:22 AM
Quote from: orangeman on March 14, 2014, 11:57:13 PM
Quote from: Myles Na G. on March 14, 2014, 11:04:38 PM
Jerusalem Street = built up area.
Evening = either means early evening, when other students were trying to do a bit of work and were getting pissed off at hurlers in the street making a lot of noise, or:
Evening = pissed up students hurling in the street late into the night.
Were they tasered? Shot with plastic batons? Beaten up and thrown in the back of a landrover?
Nope, they got a ticket. Like, for driving in a bus lane.
Jesus wept.
Can't see that being the case.
Does everyone in the Holylands (or other built up areas) get a ticket for making noise via sports in the streets?
Did those playing soccer or American football get ticketed?
If so then sure - thePSNI were acting even handedly or am I to believe a few lads knocking a sliotar around make so much more noise than other sports in the street?
Applying a rule, dumb or otherwise, to only one group while ignoring others is at best inconsistent at worst discriminatory.
Quote. The point is, the St Patrick's day parade should not be for the Irish Republican Nationalist Straight Catholics - if it's a celebration of all that is Irish, it should represent all colours of the country.
Agree broadly with this. Not sure though why any group of employees, guards, PSNI or otherwise should be elevated above any other profession. If the guards get their own section do the Irish plumbers, accountants and doctors get one too?
Not sure about those 2 sports but if some wee sportsman was driving a few titleist down my street with a 4 iron I would hope the PSNI would put a stop to it without worrying about the R&A coming out and condemning them. Similarly if he had been launching 6's out over parked cars and near peoples windows I would like to think they would have acted.
A soccer ball has a lot less potential to do damage.
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I've seen panes of glass broken with a soccer ball before.
Time for the Ulster Gaa to call the cops out on this incident.
But we all know that this is not going to happen. All We can hope for is that the person who got the ticket appeals the fine and that we get to hear in public what actually happened.
The crazy thing about this is that the whole landscape has changed in this country. But in 2014 young Irish men are not allowed to have a puck around in the street without the threat of being charged with disorderly behaviour.
But you can kick a soccer ball or throw an American football.
Would you rather get hit by a football or a sliothir (or golf ball)?
Excuse the spelling.
It's has sfa to do with being hit by a football or a sliothar or a rugby ball or an American football.
But an American football / rugby / soccer ball could do some damage if you got hit with it.
(http://www.scrup.com.au/wtf-images/soccer-ball-in-face.jpg)
Quote from: give her dixie on March 15, 2014, 10:38:52 AM
We were promised a lot with the name change, and sadly they havn't lived up to the hype. While there have been some changes, the old guard of the RUC still rule the roost, and many many people are still suffering just like in the 70's and 80's.
We were promised transparency and accountability, and sadly that has not been the case. The role of the policing board "to keep them in check" has been a failure. Just a load of salaries for people who will maintain the status quo.
Last year the policing board rubber stamped the purchase of military Drones to patrol our sky and spy on anyone. I made a few inquiries as to where and who they bought them from. A member of the board told me that they did indeed approve the purchase and use, but they didn't bother to find out who was going to supply. I also asked if the £1 million purchase was put out to tender for the best price. Again, the member told me that they were not concerned with that particular detail.
I then sent a Freedom Of Information request to the PSNI. After several months, they replied with a lengthy statement that basically said it was none of my business who they bought them from as it was of national security not to disclose that info.
In relation to a tendering process, they had this to say:
"The purchase did not go out to tender but was awarded through a Direct Award Contract (DAC) after consultation with the Department of Finance's Central Procurement Directorate. During this process measures were taken to ensure value for money was achieved."
Now, given that Drones are used to kill and injure innocent people, the least we could have expected from the policing board was for them to have at least stipulated that some form of social responsibility was adhered to. Plus, given that Israel is the worlds leading Drone manufacturer with claims as to how they are "Field Tested", did it not occur to the members that there was a possibility that they were to be purchased from the rogue state? After all several members of the board claim to support Palestine and uphold the boycott of Israeli goods and services. No doubt this will be on election flyers that are dropping through our letterboxes.....
So much for accountability and putting manners on them as one member likes to boast.
That's class. You've managed to turn a mopery-fest about grown men being stopped from playing a field sport in a built up area, into an enquiry into the purchase of Israeli made drones. Hats off to you, sir. You're a different calibre of poster altogether!
Standing outside 65 having a poc about and 2 cops walk into the street ask me am I stupid and tell me to stop hitting the ball. Said I am breaching the peace playing hurling in a mixed area on a main road even after a warning, which they didn't give me, and told me they don't have to explain themselves to me but gave me a caution for disorderly behaviour, useless wankers
The "offence happened" at 16.55 in Jerusalem Street on 12th March 2014.
I'm not going to comment on who done him.
The circumstances of the disorderly behaviour charge states clearly " playing Hurley on street".
Quote from: orangeman on March 15, 2014, 12:51:24 PM
Standing outside 65 having a poc about and 2 cops walk into the street ask me am I stupid and tell me to stop hitting the ball. Said I am breaching the peace playing hurling in a mixed area on a main road even after a warning, which they didn't give me, and told me they don't have to explain themselves to me but gave me a caution for disorderly behaviour, useless w**kers
The "offence happened" at 16.55 in Jerusalem Street on 12th March 2014.
I'm not going to comment on who done him.
The circumstances of the disorderly behaviour charge states clearly " playing Hurley on street".
Why in the name of fcuk anyone over 18 feels the need to go out an play in the street is beyond me. Seriously. I chase 10 year olds from outside my house if they start kicking a ball around. Yet people on here are trying to justify the right of adult men to go out in a main street and start knocking a ball about with hurls. And justifying it in the name of Our Culture!
I reckon this is overstated, acting the maggot in the street is not culture and one would hope that people playing baseball, cricket or rugby would be treated the same.
The only slightly worrying phrase in the above is " playing hurling in a mixed area". If mixed area means people with young children who are trying to sleep then fair enough, but if there is an implication that you can play soccer in the street but that hurling is politically unacceptable then there is an issue here.
Quote from: armaghniac on March 15, 2014, 01:33:22 PM
I reckon this is overstated, acting the maggot in the street is not culture and one would hope that people playing baseball, cricket or rugby would be treated the same.
The only slightly worrying phrase in the above is " playing hurling in a mixed area". If mixed area means people with young children who are trying to sleep then fair enough, but if there is an implication that you can play soccer in the street but that hurling is politically unacceptable then there is an issue here.
Where did that phrase come from? Theres's no mention of it in this report:
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=211896
I suspect it's just been injected by one of the posters seeking to defend the right of adult males to engage in anti social behaviour because it's Our Culture. Bit like bonfires and parading where you're not welcome, now I think about it.
So no more ball games of any kind on any street anywhere.
Fair enough.
Quote from: orangeman on March 15, 2014, 02:55:45 PM
So no more ball games of any kind on any street anywhere.
Fair enough.
I think when you see a sign up saying 'No Ball Games', that's what it means. Folks sometimes turn a blind eye - sometimes they don't - if those involved are really young children, as it might be unreasonable to expect them to take their ball down to the nearest park. Also, being younger there's less chance of them doing damage with a stray kick or stroke. If we're talking about adults, there are no excuses. Unless they have learning difficulties, which may well be the case here. I can think of no other reason why grown men would want to play games in the street.
Quoteone would hope that people playing baseball, cricket or rugby would be treated the same.
Exactly...so were people playing American football and soccer cautioned?
Here lads, my mate and I were getting lunch the other day and this sash-wearing prod in front of us got a handful more chips than me or my mate. f**king shameful, seems there's nothing they won't do to put us down. Look forward to a good 6 more pages discussing how my civil rights have been trampled all over. Always a victim.
Quote from: trileacman on March 15, 2014, 08:26:15 PM
Here lads, my mate and I were getting lunch the other day and this sash-wearing prod in front of us got a handful more chips than me or my mate.
Did he put them on his shoulder?
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on March 11, 2014, 08:18:42 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 11, 2014, 06:53:34 PM
Any link? Or even context?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBlFr1ZTo-E
After hearing a bit more about this the video is cringeworthy and a bit pathetic.
The video is more cringeworthy than the flag w@nks, especially the bit about young people getting strip searched(I think I heard that). I'd be fairly convinced the young fellas story is embellished.
Quote from: thebigfella on March 15, 2014, 09:51:01 PM
The video is more cringeworthy than the flag w@nks, especially the bit about young people getting strip searched(I think I heard that). I'd be fairly convinced the young fellas story is embellished.
It's a Sinn Fein production, maybe that's what it has come to for "propaganda".
Quote from: tyroneman on March 15, 2014, 05:13:29 PM
Quoteone would hope that people playing baseball, cricket or rugby would be treated the same.
Exactly...so were people playing American football and soccer cautioned?
It would depend what they were doing, lobbing a ball back and forward probably not, if they were driving the ball off cars they probably would.
I would think if they were driving golf balls or cricket balls down the street they would be cautioned also.
Lads I lived in the Holylands for many years and this sort of shite was rife then and has obviously got worse since with various "riots" and anti-social behaviour thrown into the mix. The hurling stick is a red herring and it is the peelers firing a warning shot before St. Patrick's day. There a boys come up from the country who trash the place and then gohome to their middle-class mammies at the weekend whereas the locals are left picking up the pieces. Fine every **** who steps out of line as the universities haven't the balls to deal with it.
I was looking after the under 12's for years and had all the hurls and helmets in the garage, was at the gym one day and on leaving got a call from the wife, told me the kids and their friends are all in the street playing hurly!! I live in a mixed area too, was expecting the riot police when I got home, what I did see was an organised game with soccer nets pulled in and my daughters explaining the rules!!
The kids were smart enough to only use the first touch balls (soft) few of the parents were out in the street a little bemused to the going ons
Tony is probably right in his assessment though, with him living their for a while he'd have a better idea of the headers in and around that area. The Botanic park is 2 mins away, if you want to puck a ball about of ya go
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-foyle-west-26642097
Shocking behaviour in Derry
Quote from: southdown on March 19, 2014, 09:57:54 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-foyle-west-26642097
Shocking behaviour in Derry
I always wondered why someone who sees danger keeps on recording it instead of actually helping the person and then use it as a means to give off about someone else not helping !!! Anyways the cops probably were on their lunch break and needed to get to McDonald's, and whey are all those cars parked in a bus lane? Wildness in the extreme. Was this done on St Patricks day?
Also noticed two people passing by who did feck all, are all the Derry wans this inconsiderate?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2014, 10:04:36 AM
Quote from: southdown on March 19, 2014, 09:57:54 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-foyle-west-26642097
Shocking behaviour in Derry
I always wondered why someone who sees danger keeps on recording it instead of actually helping the person and then use it as a means to give off about someone else not helping !!! Anyways the cops probably were on their lunch break and needed to get to McDonald's, and whey are all those cars parked in a bus lane? Wildness in the extreme. Was this done on St Patricks day?
Also noticed two people passing by who did feck all, are all the Derry wans this inconsiderate?
Ye excusing the peelers again lad?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2014, 10:04:36 AM
Quote from: southdown on March 19, 2014, 09:57:54 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-foyle-west-26642097
Shocking behaviour in Derry
I always wondered why someone who sees danger keeps on recording it instead of actually helping the person and then use it as a means to give off about someone else not helping !!! Anyways the cops probably were on their lunch break and needed to get to McDonald's, and whey are all those cars parked in a bus lane? Wildness in the extreme. Was this done on St Patricks day?
Also noticed two people passing by who did feck all, are all the Derry wans this inconsiderate?
If I'd saw the coppers with someone in that state, you'd obviously think the situation was in hand, ambulance called and the coppers would be with them until it arrived, but that is a WTF moment, leaving her lying in a bus lane in that state is unreal.
Quote from: theticklemister on March 19, 2014, 10:25:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2014, 10:04:36 AM
Quote from: southdown on March 19, 2014, 09:57:54 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-foyle-west-26642097
Shocking behaviour in Derry
I always wondered why someone who sees danger keeps on recording it instead of actually helping the person and then use it as a means to give off about someone else not helping !!! Anyways the cops probably were on their lunch break and needed to get to McDonald's, and whey are all those cars parked in a bus lane? Wildness in the extreme. Was this done on St Patricks day?
Also noticed two people passing by who did feck all, are all the Derry wans this inconsiderate?
Ye excusing the peelers again lad?
No, I was being funny, the cops here are clearly out of order, this drunk should have been at the very least given a ticket for drunking behaviour ;)
But seriously I hope they get suspended for it, madness
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2014, 11:12:57 AM
Quote from: theticklemister on March 19, 2014, 10:25:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2014, 10:04:36 AM
Quote from: southdown on March 19, 2014, 09:57:54 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-foyle-west-26642097
Shocking behaviour in Derry
I always wondered why someone who sees danger keeps on recording it instead of actually helping the person and then use it as a means to give off about someone else not helping !!! Anyways the cops probably were on their lunch break and needed to get to McDonald's, and whey are all those cars parked in a bus lane? Wildness in the extreme. Was this done on St Patricks day?
Also noticed two people passing by who did feck all, are all the Derry wans this inconsiderate?
Ye excusing the peelers again lad?
No, I was being funny, the cops here are clearly out of order, this drunk should have been at the very least given a ticket for drunking behaviour ;)
But seriously I hope they get suspended for it, madness
Not drunk. Apparently knocked out in an assault. Shocking behaviour by the police and the officers involved should loose their jobs.
Quote from: EC Unique on March 19, 2014, 11:26:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2014, 11:12:57 AM
Quote from: theticklemister on March 19, 2014, 10:25:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2014, 10:04:36 AM
Quote from: southdown on March 19, 2014, 09:57:54 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-foyle-west-26642097
Shocking behaviour in Derry
I always wondered why someone who sees danger keeps on recording it instead of actually helping the person and then use it as a means to give off about someone else not helping !!! Anyways the cops probably were on their lunch break and needed to get to McDonald's, and whey are all those cars parked in a bus lane? Wildness in the extreme. Was this done on St Patricks day?
Also noticed two people passing by who did feck all, are all the Derry wans this inconsiderate?
Ye excusing the peelers again lad?
No, I was being funny, the cops here are clearly out of order, this drunk should have been at the very least given a ticket for drunking behaviour ;)
But seriously I hope they get suspended for it, madness
Not drunk. Apparently knocked out in an assault. Shocking behaviour by the police and the officers involved should loose their jobs.
Where does it say that?
They should lose their jobs. Got assaulted (well punched in the face) outside KFC near Laverys years ago, in full view of the police the lads ran off towards Donegal street/road and I went to the cops who were standing feet away to ask for assistance and they motioned me towards the police station to make a complaint, the same direction the lads ran into!!
How did this pan out? Did teh police go off looking for the ones that did it or did they just feck off?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2014, 11:34:19 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on March 19, 2014, 11:26:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2014, 11:12:57 AM
Quote from: theticklemister on March 19, 2014, 10:25:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2014, 10:04:36 AM
Quote from: southdown on March 19, 2014, 09:57:54 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-foyle-west-26642097
Shocking behaviour in Derry
I always wondered why someone who sees danger keeps on recording it instead of actually helping the person and then use it as a means to give off about someone else not helping !!! Anyways the cops probably were on their lunch break and needed to get to McDonald's, and whey are all those cars parked in a bus lane? Wildness in the extreme. Was this done on St Patricks day?
Also noticed two people passing by who did feck all, are all the Derry wans this inconsiderate?
Ye excusing the peelers again lad?
No, I was being funny, the cops here are clearly out of order, this drunk should have been at the very least given a ticket for drunking behaviour ;)
But seriously I hope they get suspended for it, madness
Not drunk. Apparently knocked out in an assault. Shocking behaviour by the police and the officers involved should loose their jobs.
Where does it say that?
The guy that took the video was on the radio this morning (the biggest show in the country!) and claimed that she was the victim of an assault and had been knocked out.
Quote from: EC Unique on March 19, 2014, 12:08:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2014, 11:34:19 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on March 19, 2014, 11:26:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2014, 11:12:57 AM
Quote from: theticklemister on March 19, 2014, 10:25:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2014, 10:04:36 AM
Quote from: southdown on March 19, 2014, 09:57:54 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-foyle-west-26642097
Shocking behaviour in Derry
I always wondered why someone who sees danger keeps on recording it instead of actually helping the person and then use it as a means to give off about someone else not helping !!! Anyways the cops probably were on their lunch break and needed to get to McDonald's, and whey are all those cars parked in a bus lane? Wildness in the extreme. Was this done on St Patricks day?
Also noticed two people passing by who did feck all, are all the Derry wans this inconsiderate?
Ye excusing the peelers again lad?
No, I was being funny, the cops here are clearly out of order, this drunk should have been at the very least given a ticket for drunking behaviour ;)
But seriously I hope they get suspended for it, madness
Not drunk. Apparently knocked out in an assault. Shocking behaviour by the police and the officers involved should loose their jobs.
Where does it say that?
The guy that took the video was on the radio this morning (the biggest show in the country!) and claimed that she was the victim of an assault and had been knocked out.
Well what a gent he was, first off watch her get knocked out then video the cops, makes ya wonder why he never tried to help her
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2014, 12:16:47 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on March 19, 2014, 12:08:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2014, 11:34:19 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on March 19, 2014, 11:26:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2014, 11:12:57 AM
Quote from: theticklemister on March 19, 2014, 10:25:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2014, 10:04:36 AM
Quote from: southdown on March 19, 2014, 09:57:54 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-foyle-west-26642097
Shocking behaviour in Derry
I always wondered why someone who sees danger keeps on recording it instead of actually helping the person and then use it as a means to give off about someone else not helping !!! Anyways the cops probably were on their lunch break and needed to get to McDonald's, and whey are all those cars parked in a bus lane? Wildness in the extreme. Was this done on St Patricks day?
Also noticed two people passing by who did feck all, are all the Derry wans this inconsiderate?
Ye excusing the peelers again lad?
No, I was being funny, the cops here are clearly out of order, this drunk should have been at the very least given a ticket for drunking behaviour ;)
But seriously I hope they get suspended for it, madness
Not drunk. Apparently knocked out in an assault. Shocking behaviour by the police and the officers involved should loose their jobs.
Where does it say that?
The guy that took the video was on the radio this morning (the biggest show in the country!) and claimed that she was the victim of an assault and had been knocked out.
Well what a gent he was, first off watch her get knocked out then video the cops, makes ya wonder why he never tried to help her
Indeed. I thought the same. He claims the cops were on the scene more or less immediately, arrested the person who assaulted her, lifted her as seen in the video and then left. Then 2 members of the public helped her up.
Regardless of what he did or did not do the cops involved are not fit for purpose and should be fired.
Quote from: EC Unique on March 19, 2014, 12:44:36 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2014, 12:16:47 PM
Quote from: EC Unique on March 19, 2014, 12:08:17 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2014, 11:34:19 AM
Quote from: EC Unique on March 19, 2014, 11:26:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2014, 11:12:57 AM
Quote from: theticklemister on March 19, 2014, 10:25:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 19, 2014, 10:04:36 AM
Quote from: southdown on March 19, 2014, 09:57:54 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-foyle-west-26642097
Shocking behaviour in Derry
I always wondered why someone who sees danger keeps on recording it instead of actually helping the person and then use it as a means to give off about someone else not helping !!! Anyways the cops probably were on their lunch break and needed to get to McDonald's, and whey are all those cars parked in a bus lane? Wildness in the extreme. Was this done on St Patricks day?
Also noticed two people passing by who did feck all, are all the Derry wans this inconsiderate?
Ye excusing the peelers again lad?
No, I was being funny, the cops here are clearly out of order, this drunk should have been at the very least given a ticket for drunken behaviour ;)
But seriously I hope they get suspended for it, madness
Not drunk. Apparently knocked out in an assault. Shocking behaviour by the police and the officers involved should loose their jobs.
Where does it say that?
The guy that took the video was on the radio this morning (the biggest show in the country!) and claimed that she was the victim of an assault and had been knocked out.
Well what a gent he was, first off watch her get knocked out then video the cops, makes ya wonder why he never tried to help her
Indeed. I thought the same. He claims the cops were on the scene more or less immediately, arrested the person who assaulted her, lifted her as seen in the video and then left. Then 2 members of the public helped her up.
Regardless of what he did or did not do the cops involved are not fit for purpose and should be fired.
Agreed, I'd say though that there is more to this story, seems ridiculous that a person could do that nevermind police men in broad daylight and think they would get away with it.
They are a collective of useless cnuts, they are more interested in taking care of theur drug dealing informants than taking care of the community at large!
Myles, its gone awful quiet over there!
Quote from: east down gael on March 11, 2014, 09:36:28 PM
The psni having a larger percentage of Catholics does not necessarily translate to a larger percentage of nationalists.in fact I'd say that the ones joining up are the new breed of 'northern Irish' from the likes of holywood,Bangor etc who would be as familiar with a Hurley as their colleagues from a unionist background.
What absolute crap.