Brexit.

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armaghniac

Quote from: under the bar on June 24, 2019, 04:37:02 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on June 24, 2019, 03:57:11 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on June 22, 2019, 10:31:34 AM
That might have been slightly possible when Uniomists were a 2 to 1 majority.
No chance now with Nationalists/ Unionists  virtually level plus about 15 to 20% non aligned, not to mention the GFA and 2 Governments.
You're presuming that it's NI's current borders or nothing. There would be a strong chance that should the opportunity arise, the instigators would be willing to "cut loose" many of the nominally nationalist or non-PUL parts of present day NI that would be effectively handed to the Republic. It would be repartition part deux - a new "Ulster" to them. The problem with any redrawing of boundaries is that it would be simple and not so simple at the same time, the possibility of enclaves & exclaves etc.

That will never happen dude. Everyone agrees that partition was a disaster so they won't repeat the mistake. Best the Loyalists areas could hope for is a degree of self governance in a UI.

With a nationalist majority in Belfast and the North Down crowd uninterested in an impoverished banustan, this  is not a runner.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

armaghniac

Quote from: Fionntamhnach on June 24, 2019, 05:07:30 PM
Quote from: under the bar on June 24, 2019, 04:37:02 PM
That will never happen dude. Everyone agrees that partition was a disaster so they won't repeat the mistake. Best the Loyalists areas could hope for is a degree of self governance in a UI.

[citation needed]

Eileen Paisley didn't seem too keen on it in her recent interview.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B


bennydorano

Articles like that, brutal and all as they are, will have little effect with the blue rinse brigade who will effectively choose the next PM, they view the Guardian as akin to Pravda. The Sunday Times wasn't very complimentary to BJ at the weekend tho.

Hardy


seafoid

Quote from: Hardy on June 25, 2019, 05:02:44 PM
Could somebody with a FT sub copy and paste this please?
https://www.ft.com/content/85fc694c-9222-11e9-b7ea-60e35ef678d2
Done , Hardy, but on the provisional Brexit thread cos the lads don't like the full article on the official thread
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Hardy

Thanks seafoid.

Maiden1

There are no proofs, only opinions.

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seafoid

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/06/26/tory-leadership-race-boris-johnson-jeremy-hunt-brexit-no-deal/

Mr Johnson's apparent hardening of his stance on guaranteeing Brexit "with or without a deal" came as former civil service chief Bob Kerslake called the October 31 pledge "a complete hostage to fortune".
In comments reported by The Independent, the former Whitehall mandarin warned Parliament will not countenance leaving the EU without a deal.
"It is always a good maxim in politics not to enter a room unless you know that you can get out of it," the peer told the Chamberlain lecture in London on Tuesday.
"Boris Johnson has not only entered the room but he has put on the straitjacket, padlocked the door and started the tap running."
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

dec

Brexit civil servant in charge of no-deal planning quits

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/27/brexit-civil-servant-in-charge-of-no-deal-planning-quits

"The top government official in charge of no-deal Brexit planning has quit just as the chances of crashing out of the EU appear to have increased.
Tom Shinner, 33, director of policy and delivery coordination at the Department for Exiting the EU, was in charge of coordinating the domestic policy implications of Brexit across government departments to ensure a smooth exit from the EU....   "

RadioGAAGAA

Quote from: dec on June 27, 2019, 09:05:59 PM
Brexit civil servant in charge of no-deal planning quits

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/27/brexit-civil-servant-in-charge-of-no-deal-planning-quits

"The top government official in charge of no-deal Brexit planning has quit just as the chances of crashing out of the EU appear to have increased.
Tom Shinner, 33, director of policy and delivery coordination at the Department for Exiting the EU, was in charge of coordinating the domestic policy implications of Brexit across government departments to ensure a smooth exit from the EU....   "

A 33 year old in charge?

Not a f**king surprise with the Civil Service. Ineptitude is their specialty. 
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Frank_The_Tank

Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on June 28, 2019, 02:55:48 PM
Quote from: dec on June 27, 2019, 09:05:59 PM
Brexit civil servant in charge of no-deal planning quits

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/27/brexit-civil-servant-in-charge-of-no-deal-planning-quits

"The top government official in charge of no-deal Brexit planning has quit just as the chances of crashing out of the EU appear to have increased.
Tom Shinner, 33, director of policy and delivery coordination at the Department for Exiting the EU, was in charge of coordinating the domestic policy implications of Brexit across government departments to ensure a smooth exit from the EU....   "

A 33 year old in charge?

Not a f**king surprise with the Civil Service. Ineptitude is their specialty.

What has his age got to do with his role - you have to be a particular age to get a certain job is that it - what a ridiculous statement. 

Mark Zuckerberg is 35 and leads one of the biggest companies in the world.

The demographics of people who voted for brexit are the people over 50 - suppose we shouldn't let over 50's vote - then he wouldnt even have had the job
Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience

RadioGAAGAA

Quote from: Frank_The_Tank on June 28, 2019, 03:04:44 PM
What has his age got to do with his role - you have to be a particular age to get a certain job is that it - what a ridiculous statement. 

Mark Zuckerberg is 35 and leads one of the biggest companies in the world.

... and what do you think Mark Zuckerberg knows about just in time shipping?

or about sourcing and supply of medical drugs?

or about international policing treaties?

or border controls?


There is likely no way anyone under 50 - and its gonna be 1 in a million of over 50 year olds - has the breadth of knowledge to take on that role.
There is absolutely utterly no way anyone under 40 has the breadth of knowledge for the role.

To be clear - its not the age that I have an issue with - it is that such an age clearly means they cannot be suitable qualified and experienced for the job.


But it is not surprising that the stupid service appoints someone who is clearly not suitable for the job - as they probably only have a pool of equally inept clowns to pick from - and their selection systems for roles are shocking.


This post was written by an under 40 year old who has been lucky enough to have covered a shitload of disciplines in his field.
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