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#661
Quote from: Throw ball on July 17, 2015, 12:24:55 AM
Quote from: Beffs on July 17, 2015, 12:07:39 AM
Quote from: Estimator on July 16, 2015, 09:13:03 PM
Quote from: screenexile on July 16, 2015, 08:06:29 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on July 16, 2015, 05:01:35 PM
McGeeney counted as one of the best managers of the game. Once all the pieces fall into place, then he will bring success.

By whom and based on what evidence??

Best managers of the game?

Don't get this at all. As one of the best managers of the game I would expect I excellent record of trophies/victories at club and/or county record. I cannot think of anything McGeeney has done to warrant such praise.

Me neither. The media laps up everything that he says and does with a spoon & never asks any of the hard questions. Maybe his undoubted brilliance as a player, blinds them to his short comings as a manager? What big game(s) has he ever won? What top tier team(s) has he ever beaten? What significant trophy has he ever won? How many All Ireland Finals have his teams been in?

According to my boss, I am a very good organizer and a very good motivator. Lots of people are. Doesn't mean we'd all make good inter county managers.

It takes more than a good manager to win All Ireland's. Mickey proved that he was a good manager by winning 3  but now he does not have the players and is not close to winning anything. In Gaelic football you need the players. In my opinion Kildare were improved by Geezer being in charge. The jury is still out with Armagh. Is he a good manager. I do not know but if he gets Armagh to the same level he took Kildare to in the next couple of years the answer will be yes.

Food for thought. Who is the better manager. Malachi O'Rourke who has won one Ulster title in his county managerial career or James Horan who won plenty of provincials with Mayo?

That is fair enough. But to be considered one of the best managers in the game (which is what I was originally responding to,) he would have to be achieving at least what he did with Kildare and surpassing it. Other managers are judged by that kind of criteria. For some reason, McGeeney rarely is.
#662
Quote from: Estimator on July 16, 2015, 09:13:03 PM
Quote from: screenexile on July 16, 2015, 08:06:29 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on July 16, 2015, 05:01:35 PM
McGeeney counted as one of the best managers of the game. Once all the pieces fall into place, then he will bring success.

By whom and based on what evidence??

Best managers of the game?

Don't get this at all. As one of the best managers of the game I would expect I excellent record of trophies/victories at club and/or county record. I cannot think of anything McGeeney has done to warrant such praise.

Me neither. The media laps up everything that he says and does with a spoon & never asks any of the hard questions. Maybe his undoubted brilliance as a player, blinds them to his short comings as a manager? What big game(s) has he ever won? What top tier team(s) has he ever beaten? What significant trophy has he ever won? How many All Ireland Finals have his teams been in?

According to my boss, I am a very good organizer and a very good motivator. Lots of people are. Doesn't mean we'd all make good inter county managers.
#663
GAA Discussion / Re: Davy Byrne
July 09, 2015, 01:48:16 AM
Well for now, no one even knows that verbals WERE a part of the problem. That is all makey-uppy conjecture on the part of certain posters.

What we DO know, is that a lad spent two nights in hospital, with a broken jaw, a broken nose and and fractured eye socket. What about the effect of those on ANY ONE, never mind just a vulnerable person, with mental health issues?
#664
GAA Discussion / Re: Davy Byrne
July 08, 2015, 10:54:19 PM
Quote from: Teo Lurley on July 08, 2015, 02:52:33 PM
Most of us can tell what happened here. The lad from Ballymun started it with the usual verbals, the Armagh player hit a few digs and then there was a bit of a scurmish. It's unfortunate that it has resulted in nasty injuries but we need to sort out the mouthing in the game.

A player was left with a broken jaw, a broken nose & a fractured eye socket & you seem to think that sorting out verbals should be the main priority here? Jeez, I love what passes for logic in your world.  ::)
#665
GAA Discussion / Re: Kerry V Cork 2pm Killarney
July 05, 2015, 10:57:45 PM
James O'D would give Greg Louganis a right run for his money in the diving stakes. For such a talented player, it's a pity to see it. Kerry people would probably pat him on the back for being cute, but its unpleasant none the less.
#666
Tiempo, TV3/Setanta can't afford to cover the AI champo the way that RTE do. If they could, they would be doing it already. And there is no way the GAA are going to hand over the All Ireland championship, to a station that broadcasts in a language that most people can not speak or understand. And I am just stating a fact there. I'm not looking to kick off one of those "our native language is a part of who we are" debates.
#667
Quote from: tiempo on June 04, 2015, 07:00:04 PM
At the awarding of the next rights contract, assuming RTE get a package of sorts, lock in a service level agreement with regards to personal attacks on other members of the Association. For example, when someone's looks or manliness are brought into question then the pundit in question should be disciplined. It would be unacceptable to bring Donal Og's sexuality into the equation, why would other personal attacks be passable. Also if a pundit says live "I've had enough of this, I want nothing more to do with this..." then ensure that they are held to their statement and promptly replaced with someone willing to discuss the merits of the game at hand.

I'm sorry, but that is very naive. No broadcaster on the planet is going to sign up for a deal that restricts what they can or can not say. RTE would never agree to the shackles being put on their pundits like that. And the GAA can't force them too. RTE has them by the balls. No one else can afford to give the GAA the coverage that RTE do. Setanta, TV3, TV4, BBC and Sky can't or won't do it.
#668
GAA Discussion / Re: Next Week's Bandwagon
June 05, 2015, 01:25:22 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on June 05, 2015, 11:58:50 AM
Shoulda included Grammar/Punctuation Nazis in my list lol. Are ye happy now?

Could you have a bandwagon specifically for " The Homicidal Rage That Is Induced When People Don't Know The Difference Between LOOSE and LOSE ?  "

Ya know...that one... >:(
#669
Quote from: tiempo on June 04, 2015, 07:00:04 PM
The new "pres" wasn't delivered to the Association last week in a basket, this guy has his head screwed on and hopefully he won't tolerate the shite we've been hearing out of RTE this last 20+ years.How he makes himself look like a bold child i'll never know?

It might come as a suprise to you but a role on the Sunday Game is not the be all and end all, at the end of the day its a few couch potatoes sitting around pontificating in their spare time, I get the impression Aogán Ó Fearghail has better more worthwhile things to be doing with his time, but he is well within his right to call these flat track bullies out any time he feels like it, he is President of the Association after all.

Not tolerate how exactly? He has no control over what RTE's GAA pundits say, any more than you or I do, or the IRFU & the FAI have control over what comes out of Eamon Dunphys or George Hooks mouths. RTE are in the business of making money & getting people to watch their programs. If having controversial pundits on, gets more people tuning in to see what they'll say next, then there is nothing to stop them from keeping on doing that, if it works for them. It clearly has up to now, if the Sunday Game ratings are anything to go by.

The president of the GAA is perfectly entitled to express the opinion that comparing GAA teams to the Taliban is crass & offensive. He is right. It is. But that is all it is, an opinion. He has eff all power to dictate to RTE what they can or can't say. They could of course sell the broadcasting rights to someone else, but as RTE are the only ones with pockets deep enough to give the GAA the coverage it gets, that ain't gonna be happening any time soon.

If I were him, I'd be far more worried about the likes of Carney and Canning still doing games for RTE and the piss poor state of the commentary when they are at the microphone. That is the kind of thing that drives people away from the game and over to watch it on the BBC instead. That is far more damaging to the GAA "product" that is on offer to advertizers & the viewing public, than Joe Brolly or Pat Spillane acting the maggot for a few minutes imo.
#670
Yeah, but Dublin, Galway & Longford don't and they are the counties playing tomorrow.
#671
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 30, 2015, 12:07:31 AM
Question: Why didn't the GAA have a double header last weekend with both Limerick and Clare meeting each other in Football and Hurling?

Question: Why are the GAA having a double header this weekend for the Dublin football and Hurling teams?



Because in Munster, counties have pre arranged home and away agreements. Last weekend, the counties with the home advantage didn't want to give it up, just to facilitate a double header. The home and way agreements mean that they can't be forced to.

In Leinster, no such agreements exist. The counties that comprise the Leinster Council vote on the venue for games. They usually vote for the venue that will bring in the most amount of money for the provincial council, hence the double header being in Croker. The 12 Leinster counties vote on it jointly. They aren't forced to do it bv the GAA in HQ, or by the Dubs. It is decided on at provincial level.