The SDLP

[Sportacus]

SF got a review in the Financial times :
A referendum in 10 years but  only the Brits can  call one and they will only do so if there is big shift in public opinion

SF is gaslighting voters on unity. It will happen but not when SF want it to happen.

It's not completely outlandish for SF to aspire to unity in a decade. Less than a decade ago it would have seemed unlikely that Brexit would happen or Trump would get to the White House, but circumstances conspired and they did happen.

It is not under SF's control . That is the point.
They can promise all they want but they cannot deliver

That's right, it's not directly under their control, obviously, but somebody has to talk about it as a serious proposition, because it is plausible.

It will happen when the UK economy collapses, unionist pensions vaporise and house prices in Ballymena go tits up. Not before

None of those things will happen. It will happen when the majority of people are in favour of what's on offer on the island, rather than having things done to them from London. Every year that the pendulum swings a little more.

The UK economy is going to collapse. The UK is borrowing money to pay the bills.

I've been hearing this for a long time...and no word of it yet.

There is a thing called the current account deficit
It happens when a country cannot pay all of its bills.
The UK has had a current account deficit for the last decade.
Truss wanted to issue debt that wasn't backed by taxes and the markets refused to lend it to her.

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/current-account-to-gdp

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/10/04/uk-governments-u-turn-on-tax-cut-wont-placate-markets-says-analyst.html
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/10/06/the-reality-is-the-uk-is-a-low-growth-ecobonmy-fund-manager.html
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/10/20/uks-political-instability-related-to-brexit-luxembourg-pm-says.html

What was ROI's current account deficit in 2010 Seafoid? And what is the UK's current deficit? Just to give a little perspective to things?

Ireland went through a very bad period and came out of it. The UK left the EU and has gone backwards.
The assessment is not based on one thing. Sterling is trading like the currency of a poor country. The UK is low growth economy. There is way too much debt.

People in Ireland were Unionist until something really shocking happened. That was 1916.
Unionists in the North will be loyal to the UK until something really shocking happens.

Did you get the figures? I can help you if you'd like.
Public dept in ROI was 100% of GDP in 2010.
Don't get me wrong things aren't rosey in the forecast for the UK. But they're still a strong market and talk of a collapse is bollix.

You don't have to agree with me but if you want to me to believe that it's bollocks you have to prove it. What data are basing your assessment on ?

The thing about the people who are calling the shots in the UK is that they don't care about anyone, not English people, not middle class people and not anyone living in the North. Unionists don't understand that yet but they will.  Brexit was not about freedom. It was about giving a small group of people the right to pump sewage into rivers.

The second verse of the UK national anthem is a warning

https://www.mylondon.news/news/uk-world-news/national-anthem-full-lyrics-including-25051609
 O Lord our God arise,
 scatter our* enemies, and make them fall!
Confound their politics, frustrate their knavish tricks,
on Thee our hopes we fix, God save us all.

lol you make a hyperbole claim. I disagreed and it's down to me to prove it?? Really?

By the way the figures you wouldn't quote earlier, ROI deficit was over 13% in 2010. Current deficit in Uk is around 3%. And reduced towards the end of 2023.

The UK is a 2.2 trillion pounds economy.  It would be some banger of a collapse.

[bennydorano]

Seafoid has an awful blind spot where the UK is concerned.

[red hander]

Brexit has completely fucked the Brits. They are still in the denial stage of this because they can't believe how stupid they were to fall for the lies of right wing racist cnuts. It's glorious to watch.

[armaghniac]

By the way the figures you wouldn't quote earlier, ROI deficit was over 13% in 2010. Current deficit in Uk is around 3%. And reduced towards the end of 2023.

2010 was a once in a generation or once in a lifetime crisis. 2023 and 2024 are merely periods of reduced growth. It is a bit like an individual, you can have a crisis and borrow, but if you are borrowing too much in ordinary years then you can run into problems,

[trueblue1234]

By the way the figures you wouldn't quote earlier, ROI deficit was over 13% in 2010. Current deficit in Uk is around 3%. And reduced towards the end of 2023.

2010 was a once in a generation or once in a lifetime crisis. 2023 and 2024 are merely periods of reduced growth. It is a bit like an individual, you can have a crisis and borrow, but if you are borrowing too much in ordinary years then you can run into problems,

You another one that thinks the uk is going bust then?

[armaghniac]

By the way the figures you wouldn't quote earlier, ROI deficit was over 13% in 2010. Current deficit in Uk is around 3%. And reduced towards the end of 2023.

2010 was a once in a generation or once in a lifetime crisis. 2023 and 2024 are merely periods of reduced growth. It is a bit like an individual, you can have a crisis and borrow, but if you are borrowing too much in ordinary years then you can run into problems,

You another one that thinks the uk is going bust then?

I didn't say that they were going to go bust, but they have less room for manoeuvre.

[trueblue1234]

By the way the figures you wouldn't quote earlier, ROI deficit was over 13% in 2010. Current deficit in Uk is around 3%. And reduced towards the end of 2023.

2010 was a once in a generation or once in a lifetime crisis. 2023 and 2024 are merely periods of reduced growth. It is a bit like an individual, you can have a crisis and borrow, but if you are borrowing too much in ordinary years then you can run into problems,

You another one that thinks the uk is going bust then?

I didn't say that they were going to go bust, but they have less room for manoeuvre.

But I was discussing Seafoid hyperbole claims that the uk market would collapse. I don't think anyone was claiming they are in a fantastic position at the minute.

[seafoid]

SF got a review in the Financial times :
A referendum in 10 years but  only the Brits can  call one and they will only do so if there is big shift in public opinion

SF is gaslighting voters on unity. It will happen but not when SF want it to happen.

It's not completely outlandish for SF to aspire to unity in a decade. Less than a decade ago it would have seemed unlikely that Brexit would happen or Trump would get to the White House, but circumstances conspired and they did happen.

It is not under SF's control . That is the point.
They can promise all they want but they cannot deliver

That's right, it's not directly under their control, obviously, but somebody has to talk about it as a serious proposition, because it is plausible.

It will happen when the UK economy collapses, unionist pensions vaporise and house prices in Ballymena go tits up. Not before

None of those things will happen. It will happen when the majority of people are in favour of what's on offer on the island, rather than having things done to them from London. Every year that the pendulum swings a little more.

The UK economy is going to collapse. The UK is borrowing money to pay the bills.

I've been hearing this for a long time...and no word of it yet.

There is a thing called the current account deficit
It happens when a country cannot pay all of its bills.
The UK has had a current account deficit for the last decade.
Truss wanted to issue debt that wasn't backed by taxes and the markets refused to lend it to her.

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/current-account-to-gdp

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/10/04/uk-governments-u-turn-on-tax-cut-wont-placate-markets-says-analyst.html
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/10/06/the-reality-is-the-uk-is-a-low-growth-ecobonmy-fund-manager.html
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/10/20/uks-political-instability-related-to-brexit-luxembourg-pm-says.html

What was ROI's current account deficit in 2010 Seafoid? And what is the UK's current deficit? Just to give a little perspective to things?

Ireland went through a very bad period and came out of it. The UK left the EU and has gone backwards.
The assessment is not based on one thing. Sterling is trading like the currency of a poor country. The UK is low growth economy. There is way too much debt.

People in Ireland were Unionist until something really shocking happened. That was 1916.
Unionists in the North will be loyal to the UK until something really shocking happens.

Did you get the figures? I can help you if you'd like.
Public dept in ROI was 100% of GDP in 2010.
Don't get me wrong things aren't rosey in the forecast for the UK. But they're still a strong market and talk of a collapse is bollix.

You don't have to agree with me but if you want to me to believe that it's bollocks you have to prove it. What data are basing your assessment on ?

The thing about the people who are calling the shots in the UK is that they don't care about anyone, not English people, not middle class people and not anyone living in the North. Unionists don't understand that yet but they will.  Brexit was not about freedom. It was about giving a small group of people the right to pump sewage into rivers.

The second verse of the UK national anthem is a warning

https://www.mylondon.news/news/uk-world-news/national-anthem-full-lyrics-including-25051609
 O Lord our God arise,
 scatter our* enemies, and make them fall!
Confound their politics, frustrate their knavish tricks,
on Thee our hopes we fix, God save us all.

lol you make a hyperbole claim. I disagreed and it's down to me to prove it?? Really?

By the way the figures you wouldn't quote earlier, ROI deficit was over 13% in 2010. Current deficit in Uk is around 3%. And reduced towards the end of 2023.

You say it won't collapse. Based on what ?
Give three reasons why it won't.

and "because" is not a valid answer

[trueblue1234]

SF got a review in the Financial times :
A referendum in 10 years but  only the Brits can  call one and they will only do so if there is big shift in public opinion

SF is gaslighting voters on unity. It will happen but not when SF want it to happen.

It's not completely outlandish for SF to aspire to unity in a decade. Less than a decade ago it would have seemed unlikely that Brexit would happen or Trump would get to the White House, but circumstances conspired and they did happen.

It is not under SF's control . That is the point.
They can promise all they want but they cannot deliver

That's right, it's not directly under their control, obviously, but somebody has to talk about it as a serious proposition, because it is plausible.

It will happen when the UK economy collapses, unionist pensions vaporise and house prices in Ballymena go tits up. Not before

None of those things will happen. It will happen when the majority of people are in favour of what's on offer on the island, rather than having things done to them from London. Every year that the pendulum swings a little more.

The UK economy is going to collapse. The UK is borrowing money to pay the bills.

I've been hearing this for a long time...and no word of it yet.

There is a thing called the current account deficit
It happens when a country cannot pay all of its bills.
The UK has had a current account deficit for the last decade.
Truss wanted to issue debt that wasn't backed by taxes and the markets refused to lend it to her.

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/current-account-to-gdp

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/10/04/uk-governments-u-turn-on-tax-cut-wont-placate-markets-says-analyst.html
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/10/06/the-reality-is-the-uk-is-a-low-growth-ecobonmy-fund-manager.html
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/10/20/uks-political-instability-related-to-brexit-luxembourg-pm-says.html

What was ROI's current account deficit in 2010 Seafoid? And what is the UK's current deficit? Just to give a little perspective to things?

Ireland went through a very bad period and came out of it. The UK left the EU and has gone backwards.
The assessment is not based on one thing. Sterling is trading like the currency of a poor country. The UK is low growth economy. There is way too much debt.

People in Ireland were Unionist until something really shocking happened. That was 1916.
Unionists in the North will be loyal to the UK until something really shocking happens.

Did you get the figures? I can help you if you'd like.
Public dept in ROI was 100% of GDP in 2010.
Don't get me wrong things aren't rosey in the forecast for the UK. But they're still a strong market and talk of a collapse is bollix.

You don't have to agree with me but if you want to me to believe that it's bollocks you have to prove it. What data are basing your assessment on ?

The thing about the people who are calling the shots in the UK is that they don't care about anyone, not English people, not middle class people and not anyone living in the North. Unionists don't understand that yet but they will.  Brexit was not about freedom. It was about giving a small group of people the right to pump sewage into rivers.

The second verse of the UK national anthem is a warning

https://www.mylondon.news/news/uk-world-news/national-anthem-full-lyrics-including-25051609
 O Lord our God arise,
 scatter our* enemies, and make them fall!
Confound their politics, frustrate their knavish tricks,
on Thee our hopes we fix, God save us all.

lol you make a hyperbole claim. I disagreed and it's down to me to prove it?? Really?

By the way the figures you wouldn't quote earlier, ROI deficit was over 13% in 2010. Current deficit in Uk is around 3%. And reduced towards the end of 2023.

You say it won't collapse. Based on what ?
Give three reasons why it won't.

and "because" is not a valid answer

You made the claim ffs. You provide the 3 reasons. And fyi the wording of the national anthem will not be classed as a valid reason.

[seafoid]

SF got a review in the Financial times :
A referendum in 10 years but  only the Brits can  call one and they will only do so if there is big shift in public opinion

SF is gaslighting voters on unity. It will happen but not when SF want it to happen.

It's not completely outlandish for SF to aspire to unity in a decade. Less than a decade ago it would have seemed unlikely that Brexit would happen or Trump would get to the White House, but circumstances conspired and they did happen.

It is not under SF's control . That is the point.
They can promise all they want but they cannot deliver

That's right, it's not directly under their control, obviously, but somebody has to talk about it as a serious proposition, because it is plausible.

It will happen when the UK economy collapses, unionist pensions vaporise and house prices in Ballymena go tits up. Not before

None of those things will happen. It will happen when the majority of people are in favour of what's on offer on the island, rather than having things done to them from London. Every year that the pendulum swings a little more.

The UK economy is going to collapse. The UK is borrowing money to pay the bills.

I've been hearing this for a long time...and no word of it yet.

There is a thing called the current account deficit
It happens when a country cannot pay all of its bills.
The UK has had a current account deficit for the last decade.
Truss wanted to issue debt that wasn't backed by taxes and the markets refused to lend it to her.

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/current-account-to-gdp

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/10/04/uk-governments-u-turn-on-tax-cut-wont-placate-markets-says-analyst.html
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/10/06/the-reality-is-the-uk-is-a-low-growth-ecobonmy-fund-manager.html
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/10/20/uks-political-instability-related-to-brexit-luxembourg-pm-says.html

What was ROI's current account deficit in 2010 Seafoid? And what is the UK's current deficit? Just to give a little perspective to things?

Ireland went through a very bad period and came out of it. The UK left the EU and has gone backwards.
The assessment is not based on one thing. Sterling is trading like the currency of a poor country. The UK is low growth economy. There is way too much debt.

People in Ireland were Unionist until something really shocking happened. That was 1916.
Unionists in the North will be loyal to the UK until something really shocking happens.

Did you get the figures? I can help you if you'd like.
Public dept in ROI was 100% of GDP in 2010.
Don't get me wrong things aren't rosey in the forecast for the UK. But they're still a strong market and talk of a collapse is bollix.

You don't have to agree with me but if you want to me to believe that it's bollocks you have to prove it. What data are basing your assessment on ?

The thing about the people who are calling the shots in the UK is that they don't care about anyone, not English people, not middle class people and not anyone living in the North. Unionists don't understand that yet but they will.  Brexit was not about freedom. It was about giving a small group of people the right to pump sewage into rivers.

The second verse of the UK national anthem is a warning

https://www.mylondon.news/news/uk-world-news/national-anthem-full-lyrics-including-25051609
 O Lord our God arise,
 scatter our* enemies, and make them fall!
Confound their politics, frustrate their knavish tricks,
on Thee our hopes we fix, God save us all.

lol you make a hyperbole claim. I disagreed and it's down to me to prove it?? Really?

By the way the figures you wouldn't quote earlier, ROI deficit was over 13% in 2010. Current deficit in Uk is around 3%. And reduced towards the end of 2023.

You say it won't collapse. Based on what ?
Give three reasons why it won't.

and "because" is not a valid answer

You made the claim ffs. You provide the 3 reasons. And fyi the wording of the national anthem will not be classed as a valid reason.

3 reasons are

1. Living beyond its means- current accouht deficit
2. Economic growth is slower thn the growth of debt 
3. Extreme inequality -  a few wealthy people who are very adept at avoiding tax can never ever make up for 10s of millions of people earning decent wages and spending that on goods and services.


What are your 3 ?

[trueblue1234]

SF got a review in the Financial times :
A referendum in 10 years but  only the Brits can  call one and they will only do so if there is big shift in public opinion

SF is gaslighting voters on unity. It will happen but not when SF want it to happen.

It's not completely outlandish for SF to aspire to unity in a decade. Less than a decade ago it would have seemed unlikely that Brexit would happen or Trump would get to the White House, but circumstances conspired and they did happen.

It is not under SF's control . That is the point.
They can promise all they want but they cannot deliver

That's right, it's not directly under their control, obviously, but somebody has to talk about it as a serious proposition, because it is plausible.

It will happen when the UK economy collapses, unionist pensions vaporise and house prices in Ballymena go tits up. Not before

None of those things will happen. It will happen when the majority of people are in favour of what's on offer on the island, rather than having things done to them from London. Every year that the pendulum swings a little more.

The UK economy is going to collapse. The UK is borrowing money to pay the bills.

I've been hearing this for a long time...and no word of it yet.

There is a thing called the current account deficit
It happens when a country cannot pay all of its bills.
The UK has had a current account deficit for the last decade.
Truss wanted to issue debt that wasn't backed by taxes and the markets refused to lend it to her.

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/current-account-to-gdp

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/10/04/uk-governments-u-turn-on-tax-cut-wont-placate-markets-says-analyst.html
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/10/06/the-reality-is-the-uk-is-a-low-growth-ecobonmy-fund-manager.html
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/10/20/uks-political-instability-related-to-brexit-luxembourg-pm-says.html

What was ROI's current account deficit in 2010 Seafoid? And what is the UK's current deficit? Just to give a little perspective to things?

Ireland went through a very bad period and came out of it. The UK left the EU and has gone backwards.
The assessment is not based on one thing. Sterling is trading like the currency of a poor country. The UK is low growth economy. There is way too much debt.

People in Ireland were Unionist until something really shocking happened. That was 1916.
Unionists in the North will be loyal to the UK until something really shocking happens.

Did you get the figures? I can help you if you'd like.
Public dept in ROI was 100% of GDP in 2010.
Don't get me wrong things aren't rosey in the forecast for the UK. But they're still a strong market and talk of a collapse is bollix.

You don't have to agree with me but if you want to me to believe that it's bollocks you have to prove it. What data are basing your assessment on ?

The thing about the people who are calling the shots in the UK is that they don't care about anyone, not English people, not middle class people and not anyone living in the North. Unionists don't understand that yet but they will.  Brexit was not about freedom. It was about giving a small group of people the right to pump sewage into rivers.

The second verse of the UK national anthem is a warning

https://www.mylondon.news/news/uk-world-news/national-anthem-full-lyrics-including-25051609
 O Lord our God arise,
 scatter our* enemies, and make them fall!
Confound their politics, frustrate their knavish tricks,
on Thee our hopes we fix, God save us all.

lol you make a hyperbole claim. I disagreed and it's down to me to prove it?? Really?

By the way the figures you wouldn't quote earlier, ROI deficit was over 13% in 2010. Current deficit in Uk is around 3%. And reduced towards the end of 2023.

You say it won't collapse. Based on what ?
Give three reasons why it won't.

and "because" is not a valid answer

You made the claim ffs. You provide the 3 reasons. And fyi the wording of the national anthem will not be classed as a valid reason.

3 reasons are

1. Living beyond its means- current accouht deficit
2. Economic growth is slower thn the growth of debt 
3. Extreme inequality -  a few wealthy people who are very adept at avoiding tax can never ever make up for 10s of millions of people earning decent wages and spending that on goods and services.


What are your 3 ?

All 3 have been present in most economies at some point or another.

1- It's a trillion £ economy. It would take a hell of a crash.
2- deficit reduced at end of 2023 to 2.5% which is far from a large issue.
3- GDP is at higher rate in 2024 than 2023 showing signs of growth and reduced inflation.

All pointing in right direction albeit slowly.

[seafoid]

SF got a review in the Financial times :
A referendum in 10 years but  only the Brits can  call one and they will only do so if there is big shift in public opinion

SF is gaslighting voters on unity. It will happen but not when SF want it to happen.

It's not completely outlandish for SF to aspire to unity in a decade. Less than a decade ago it would have seemed unlikely that Brexit would happen or Trump would get to the White House, but circumstances conspired and they did happen.

It is not under SF's control . That is the point.
They can promise all they want but they cannot deliver

That's right, it's not directly under their control, obviously, but somebody has to talk about it as a serious proposition, because it is plausible.

It will happen when the UK economy collapses, unionist pensions vaporise and house prices in Ballymena go tits up. Not before

None of those things will happen. It will happen when the majority of people are in favour of what's on offer on the island, rather than having things done to them from London. Every year that the pendulum swings a little more.

The UK economy is going to collapse. The UK is borrowing money to pay the bills.

I've been hearing this for a long time...and no word of it yet.

There is a thing called the current account deficit
It happens when a country cannot pay all of its bills.
The UK has had a current account deficit for the last decade.
Truss wanted to issue debt that wasn't backed by taxes and the markets refused to lend it to her.

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/current-account-to-gdp

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/10/04/uk-governments-u-turn-on-tax-cut-wont-placate-markets-says-analyst.html
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/10/06/the-reality-is-the-uk-is-a-low-growth-ecobonmy-fund-manager.html
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/10/20/uks-political-instability-related-to-brexit-luxembourg-pm-says.html

What was ROI's current account deficit in 2010 Seafoid? And what is the UK's current deficit? Just to give a little perspective to things?

Ireland went through a very bad period and came out of it. The UK left the EU and has gone backwards.
The assessment is not based on one thing. Sterling is trading like the currency of a poor country. The UK is low growth economy. There is way too much debt.

People in Ireland were Unionist until something really shocking happened. That was 1916.
Unionists in the North will be loyal to the UK until something really shocking happens.

Did you get the figures? I can help you if you'd like.
Public dept in ROI was 100% of GDP in 2010.
Don't get me wrong things aren't rosey in the forecast for the UK. But they're still a strong market and talk of a collapse is bollix.

You don't have to agree with me but if you want to me to believe that it's bollocks you have to prove it. What data are basing your assessment on ?

The thing about the people who are calling the shots in the UK is that they don't care about anyone, not English people, not middle class people and not anyone living in the North. Unionists don't understand that yet but they will.  Brexit was not about freedom. It was about giving a small group of people the right to pump sewage into rivers.

The second verse of the UK national anthem is a warning

https://www.mylondon.news/news/uk-world-news/national-anthem-full-lyrics-including-25051609
 O Lord our God arise,
 scatter our* enemies, and make them fall!
Confound their politics, frustrate their knavish tricks,
on Thee our hopes we fix, God save us all.

lol you make a hyperbole claim. I disagreed and it's down to me to prove it?? Really?

By the way the figures you wouldn't quote earlier, ROI deficit was over 13% in 2010. Current deficit in Uk is around 3%. And reduced towards the end of 2023.

You say it won't collapse. Based on what ?
Give three reasons why it won't.

and "because" is not a valid answer

You made the claim ffs. You provide the 3 reasons. And fyi the wording of the national anthem will not be classed as a valid reason.

3 reasons are

1. Living beyond its means- current accouht deficit
2. Economic growth is slower thn the growth of debt 
3. Extreme inequality -  a few wealthy people who are very adept at avoiding tax can never ever make up for 10s of millions of people earning decent wages and spending that on goods and services.


What are your 3 ?

All 3 have been present in most economies at some point or another.

1- It's a trillion £ economy. It would take a hell of a crash.
2- deficit reduced at end of 2023 to 2.5% which is far from a large issue.
3- GDP is at higher rate in 2024 than 2023 showing signs of growth and reduced inflation.

All pointing in right direction albeit slowly.

Which deficit ?
Why is inflation higher in the UK than in France ?
Why should the size of the economy mean it is safe?

[trueblue1234]

SF got a review in the Financial times :
A referendum in 10 years but  only the Brits can  call one and they will only do so if there is big shift in public opinion

SF is gaslighting voters on unity. It will happen but not when SF want it to happen.

It's not completely outlandish for SF to aspire to unity in a decade. Less than a decade ago it would have seemed unlikely that Brexit would happen or Trump would get to the White House, but circumstances conspired and they did happen.

It is not under SF's control . That is the point.
They can promise all they want but they cannot deliver

That's right, it's not directly under their control, obviously, but somebody has to talk about it as a serious proposition, because it is plausible.

It will happen when the UK economy collapses, unionist pensions vaporise and house prices in Ballymena go tits up. Not before

None of those things will happen. It will happen when the majority of people are in favour of what's on offer on the island, rather than having things done to them from London. Every year that the pendulum swings a little more.

The UK economy is going to collapse. The UK is borrowing money to pay the bills.

I've been hearing this for a long time...and no word of it yet.

There is a thing called the current account deficit
It happens when a country cannot pay all of its bills.
The UK has had a current account deficit for the last decade.
Truss wanted to issue debt that wasn't backed by taxes and the markets refused to lend it to her.

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/current-account-to-gdp

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/10/04/uk-governments-u-turn-on-tax-cut-wont-placate-markets-says-analyst.html
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/10/06/the-reality-is-the-uk-is-a-low-growth-ecobonmy-fund-manager.html
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2022/10/20/uks-political-instability-related-to-brexit-luxembourg-pm-says.html

What was ROI's current account deficit in 2010 Seafoid? And what is the UK's current deficit? Just to give a little perspective to things?

Ireland went through a very bad period and came out of it. The UK left the EU and has gone backwards.
The assessment is not based on one thing. Sterling is trading like the currency of a poor country. The UK is low growth economy. There is way too much debt.

People in Ireland were Unionist until something really shocking happened. That was 1916.
Unionists in the North will be loyal to the UK until something really shocking happens.

Did you get the figures? I can help you if you'd like.
Public dept in ROI was 100% of GDP in 2010.
Don't get me wrong things aren't rosey in the forecast for the UK. But they're still a strong market and talk of a collapse is bollix.

You don't have to agree with me but if you want to me to believe that it's bollocks you have to prove it. What data are basing your assessment on ?

The thing about the people who are calling the shots in the UK is that they don't care about anyone, not English people, not middle class people and not anyone living in the North. Unionists don't understand that yet but they will.  Brexit was not about freedom. It was about giving a small group of people the right to pump sewage into rivers.

The second verse of the UK national anthem is a warning

https://www.mylondon.news/news/uk-world-news/national-anthem-full-lyrics-including-25051609
 O Lord our God arise,
 scatter our* enemies, and make them fall!
Confound their politics, frustrate their knavish tricks,
on Thee our hopes we fix, God save us all.

lol you make a hyperbole claim. I disagreed and it's down to me to prove it?? Really?

By the way the figures you wouldn't quote earlier, ROI deficit was over 13% in 2010. Current deficit in Uk is around 3%. And reduced towards the end of 2023.

You say it won't collapse. Based on what ?
Give three reasons why it won't.

and "because" is not a valid answer

You made the claim ffs. You provide the 3 reasons. And fyi the wording of the national anthem will not be classed as a valid reason.

3 reasons are

1. Living beyond its means- current accouht deficit
2. Economic growth is slower thn the growth of debt 
3. Extreme inequality -  a few wealthy people who are very adept at avoiding tax can never ever make up for 10s of millions of people earning decent wages and spending that on goods and services.


What are your 3 ?

All 3 have been present in most economies at some point or another.

1- It's a trillion £ economy. It would take a hell of a crash.
2- deficit reduced at end of 2023 to 2.5% which is far from a large issue.
3- GDP is at higher rate in 2024 than 2023 showing signs of growth and reduced inflation.

All pointing in right direction albeit slowly.

Which deficit ?
Why is inflation higher in the UK than in France ?
Why should the size of the economy mean it is safe?

Current account deficit.
All economies have different inflations at different times? Do you think a higher level of inflation means that the economy is going to go bust? A larger economy tends to be more stable and will take a significant incidence to cause it to collapse.

So give me one genuine reason that you can point to that would suggest the UK economy will go bust?

[bennydorano]

Stop with the mega quoting ffs

[Tony Baloney]

Stop with the mega quoting ffs

Jesus that would give you a seizure scrolling down the page.