The SDLP

Started by ardmhachaabu, April 23, 2010, 09:32:25 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

Deerstalker

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2024, 01:47:46 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on March 15, 2024, 01:12:19 PMClaire Hanna tied in knots on The View by Brian Feeney.  Very close to Alliance with her views on unity.

Was never fussed on Feeney.. His comments many years ago could (would need to dig out a link to it) have been linked to a murder of a neighbour and friend of my dads, when he mention something about Conway Mill being run by the PIRA and this man was murdered days later, he had a coal firm that worked outta there many years ago

He does the same column in the Irish News over and over

Sportacus

I had to listen very carefully to make any sense of what Feeney was trying to say.  He was trying to make points but always seemed to stop short and leave it hanging with a big 'you know what I mean', look on his face. Wasn't really clear at all what he was on about.

Applesisapples

Quote from: Sportacus on March 15, 2024, 02:07:19 PMI had to listen very carefully to make any sense of what Feeney was trying to say.  He was trying to make points but always seemed to stop short and leave it hanging with a big 'you know what I mean', look on his face. Wasn't really clear at all what he was on about.
He was quite clear, in that the structures for unity should be put in place, they are not reliant on reconciliation, nor do they exclude it. He stated that to make reconciliation a prerequisite as Hanna argued would give unionists another means to frustrate by claiming reconciliation has. not taken place. He also quite rightly asked how you could measure reconciliation, and rightly pointed out this is not required by the GFA.

johnnycool

Quote from: Sportacus on March 15, 2024, 02:07:19 PMI had to listen very carefully to make any sense of what Feeney was trying to say.  He was trying to make points but always seemed to stop short and leave it hanging with a big 'you know what I mean', look on his face. Wasn't really clear at all what he was on about.

what he was right about is that reconciliation isn't directly linked to a border poll and a UI.

The unionist narrative which is the default setting of the BBC and UTV is that discussing and planning for a UI is "divisive" yet no mention of the recent "strengthening the Union" paper being "divisive" towards Nationalists....


JPGJOHNNYG

Reconciliation is ideal as is a 70%+ pro UI vote but in reality both are not needed nor are they realistic

red hander

Reconcilation? Where was this ballix for 100 years? It's laughable. Another attempt to turn back tide of history. Where was the reconciliation when the powers that be treated my grandparents and parents as third class citizens? Lick the back of my f**king balls. Demographics will correct a disgraceful historic wrong. Get used to reunification of our country, it's happening.

marty34

All about getting a few votes in south Belfast for Hanna. Saying a lot but saying nothing at the same time.

A time is coming, soon, when Alliance will have to get off the fence.

Reconcilation - is this the new buzzword for unionism and their cronnies?

Laughable.


Caitlin

Claire Hanna is the most articulate and effective politician in the six counties. Far from being tied in knors I thought she was clear on The View. She put manners on Jim Alister a few weeks ago and has been principled and consistent over Gaza. Of course she is seeking to maximise her vote in South Belfast- what would you expect?

seafoid

SF got a review in the Financial times :
A referendum in 10 years but  only the Brits can  call one and they will only do so if there is big shift in public opinion

SF is gaslighting voters on unity. It will happen but not when SF want it to happen.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

yellowcard

Quote from: Caitlin on March 16, 2024, 09:00:25 AMClaire Hanna is the most articulate and effective politician in the six counties. Far from being tied in knors I thought she was clear on The View. She put manners on Jim Alister a few weeks ago and has been principled and consistent over Gaza. Of course she is seeking to maximise her vote in South Belfast- what would you expect?

I don't know if she is the best politician but she is definitely one of the most articulate and is a very effective communicator. Mind you there isn't much competition as you could count on 2 hands the number of decent public representatives sitting in the assembly who are capable of articulating an argument without reading off a pre rehearsed script. A lot of them seem to put more store in their social media profiles and glossy PR campaigns.   

Sportacus

Quote from: seafoid on March 16, 2024, 11:00:59 AMSF got a review in the Financial times :
A referendum in 10 years but  only the Brits can  call one and they will only do so if there is big shift in public opinion

SF is gaslighting voters on unity. It will happen but not when SF want it to happen.
It's not completely outlandish for SF to aspire to unity in a decade. Less than a decade ago it would have seemed unlikely that Brexit would happen or Trump would get to the White House, but circumstances conspired and they did happen.

seafoid

Quote from: Sportacus on March 16, 2024, 01:45:28 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 16, 2024, 11:00:59 AMSF got a review in the Financial times :
A referendum in 10 years but  only the Brits can  call one and they will only do so if there is big shift in public opinion

SF is gaslighting voters on unity. It will happen but not when SF want it to happen.
It's not completely outlandish for SF to aspire to unity in a decade. Less than a decade ago it would have seemed unlikely that Brexit would happen or Trump would get to the White House, but circumstances conspired and they did happen.
It is not under SF's control . That is the point.
They can promise all they want but they cannot deliver
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Sportacus

Quote from: seafoid on March 16, 2024, 02:09:28 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 16, 2024, 01:45:28 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 16, 2024, 11:00:59 AMSF got a review in the Financial times :
A referendum in 10 years but  only the Brits can  call one and they will only do so if there is big shift in public opinion

SF is gaslighting voters on unity. It will happen but not when SF want it to happen.
It's not completely outlandish for SF to aspire to unity in a decade. Less than a decade ago it would have seemed unlikely that Brexit would happen or Trump would get to the White House, but circumstances conspired and they did happen.
It is not under SF's control . That is the point.
They can promise all they want but they cannot deliver
That's right, it's not directly under their control, obviously, but somebody has to talk about it as a serious proposition, because it is plausible.

marty34

Quote from: Sportacus on March 16, 2024, 03:04:51 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 16, 2024, 02:09:28 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on March 16, 2024, 01:45:28 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 16, 2024, 11:00:59 AMSF got a review in the Financial times :
A referendum in 10 years but  only the Brits can  call one and they will only do so if there is big shift in public opinion

SF is gaslighting voters on unity. It will happen but not when SF want it to happen.
It's not completely outlandish for SF to aspire to unity in a decade. Less than a decade ago it would have seemed unlikely that Brexit would happen or Trump would get to the White House, but circumstances conspired and they did happen.
It is not under SF's control . That is the point.
They can promise all they want but they cannot deliver
That's right, it's not directly under their control, obviously, but somebody has to talk about it as a serious proposition, because it is plausible.

In fairness, SF seem to be the only party pushing this conversation.

The stooge parties of the establishment in the south are not interested in pushing this.

Disappointing but unsurprising.

Rossfan

Keep spouting sh1te like that....
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM