Falls from Grace

[Sleater]

Castleblayney Faughs,  record Monaghan title holders, had the highest number of county titles in the country till we surpassed them, haven't won a senior in 20 years and relegated to Intermediate last year for first time in their history.

Blayney were in the brink of relegation for about 4/5 years before last years relegation. They were the beneficiaries  of a fortuitous fixture list a couple of times in avoiding relegation e.g. meeting championship winners Clontibret a week after Clontibret had won the championship and they fielded a B team and getting the points from some walk overs too. Blayney really ought to have been relegated a few years ago but were very, very lucky to beat the drop.

Blayney have won a couple of D1 county minor titles (including this years) so talent is coming through for them but that will take a few years to make an impact at adult level. They'll be intermediate for a few years more I'd say. It was bad news for them that Truagh got relegated from Senior this year.

[Armagh18]

Compare Newry to Lurgan. Similar size towns about 25 miles apart. Newry would be a bit bigger with an almost entirely nationalist population,  whereas Lurgan is famously split and would historically have more social problems. Newry is surrounded by GAA heartland where Lurgan is surrounded by very mixed countryside.
This year playing for Armagh in the Championship were Lurgan men Conor Turbitt, Tiernan Kelly & Barry McCambridge from Clann Eireann, Soupy Campbell & Shane McPartland from Clan na Gael and Andrew Murnin from St Pauls.
Down have no Newry men, and haven't had for years!!

Armagh clubs similar, Harps and Ogs haven't provided much to the county for a while for the size/tradition in both clubs. McElroy from Harps is the only one at the minute I can think of and he's only back.

[seafoid]

Compare Newry to Lurgan. Similar size towns about 25 miles apart. Newry would be a bit bigger with an almost entirely nationalist population,  whereas Lurgan is famously split and would historically have more social problems. Newry is surrounded by GAA heartland where Lurgan is surrounded by very mixed countryside.
This year playing for Armagh in the Championship were Lurgan men Conor Turbitt, Tiernan Kelly & Barry McCambridge from Clann Eireann, Soupy Campbell & Shane McPartland from Clan na Gael and Andrew Murnin from St Pauls.
Down have no Newry men, and haven't had for years!!

Ballinasloe in Galway would be similar to Newry. Hasn't been on the GAA radar for a few decades even though in the roll of honour of county titles it is 3rd. last title 1980

Tuam Stars 1st on the list but also down on their luck. Last title 1994.

Both teams always had players on the big county teams.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galway_Senior_Football_Championship

[statto]

Compare Newry to Lurgan. Similar size towns about 25 miles apart. Newry would be a bit bigger with an almost entirely nationalist population,  whereas Lurgan is famously split and would historically have more social problems. Newry is surrounded by GAA heartland where Lurgan is surrounded by very mixed countryside.
This year playing for Armagh in the Championship were Lurgan men Conor Turbitt, Tiernan Kelly & Barry McCambridge from Clann Eireann, Soupy Campbell & Shane McPartland from Clan na Gael and Andrew Murnin from St Pauls.
Down have no Newry men, and haven't had for years!!

Armagh clubs similar, Harps and Ogs haven't provided much to the county for a while for the size/tradition in both clubs. McElroy from Harps is the only one at the minute I can think of and he's only back.

And gone for this year I am told along with Vinny Brady which means zero players from Armagh City currently on panel. 

[marty34]

Compare Newry to Lurgan. Similar size towns about 25 miles apart. Newry would be a bit bigger with an almost entirely nationalist population,  whereas Lurgan is famously split and would historically have more social problems. Newry is surrounded by GAA heartland where Lurgan is surrounded by very mixed countryside.
This year playing for Armagh in the Championship were Lurgan men Conor Turbitt, Tiernan Kelly & Barry McCambridge from Clann Eireann, Soupy Campbell & Shane McPartland from Clan na Gael and Andrew Murnin from St Pauls.
Down have no Newry men, and haven't had for years!!

That's a good comparsion.

Newry seems a bit like Derry City.  Big potential and population etc. but needs investment.

I think there's an Armagh club in outskirts of Newry?

Somebody told me that the two schools in Newry, Colman's and Abbey now haven't got as many of the south Armagh boys as they all head to the big school St. Paul's in Bressbrook. To the detriment of school's football in Newry. 

[Armagh18]

Compare Newry to Lurgan. Similar size towns about 25 miles apart. Newry would be a bit bigger with an almost entirely nationalist population,  whereas Lurgan is famously split and would historically have more social problems. Newry is surrounded by GAA heartland where Lurgan is surrounded by very mixed countryside.
This year playing for Armagh in the Championship were Lurgan men Conor Turbitt, Tiernan Kelly & Barry McCambridge from Clann Eireann, Soupy Campbell & Shane McPartland from Clan na Gael and Andrew Murnin from St Pauls.
Down have no Newry men, and haven't had for years!!

That's a good comparsion.

Newry seems a bit like Derry City.  Big potential and population etc. but needs investment.

I think there's an Armagh club in outskirts of Newry?

Somebody told me that the two schools in Newry, Colman's and Abbey now haven't got as many of the south Armagh boys as they all head to the big school St. Paul's in Bressbrook. To the detriment of school's football in Newry. 

You've Thomas Davis Corrinshego just off the motorway there with a brand new club house and pitch but they haven't really got the players to match the facilities yet.

 Yeah St Pauls would probably pick up a fair few that might have went to Newry in days gone by.

[clonian]

Compare Newry to Lurgan. Similar size towns about 25 miles apart. Newry would be a bit bigger with an almost entirely nationalist population,  whereas Lurgan is famously split and would historically have more social problems. Newry is surrounded by GAA heartland where Lurgan is surrounded by very mixed countryside.
This year playing for Armagh in the Championship were Lurgan men Conor Turbitt, Tiernan Kelly & Barry McCambridge from Clann Eireann, Soupy Campbell & Shane McPartland from Clan na Gael and Andrew Murnin from St Pauls.
Down have no Newry men, and haven't had for years!!

That's a good comparsion.

Newry seems a bit like Derry City.  Big potential and population etc. but needs investment.

I think there's an Armagh club in outskirts of Newry?

Somebody told me that the two schools in Newry, Colman's and Abbey now haven't got as many of the south Armagh boys as they all head to the big school St. Paul's in Bressbrook. To the detriment of school's football in Newry. 

You've Thomas Davis Corrinshego just off the motorway there with a brand new club house and pitch but they haven't really got the players to match the facilities yet.

 Yeah St Pauls would probably pick up a fair few that might have went to Newry in days gone by.

And St Ronan's - there always was a few Lurgan lads on those McCrory winning teams.

[ONeill]

Has to be The Windmill. Once the scourge of the elite in Tyrone football. Now playing friendlies against Carnan Accordion Band.

[marty34]

Compare Newry to Lurgan. Similar size towns about 25 miles apart. Newry would be a bit bigger with an almost entirely nationalist population,  whereas Lurgan is famously split and would historically have more social problems. Newry is surrounded by GAA heartland where Lurgan is surrounded by very mixed countryside.
This year playing for Armagh in the Championship were Lurgan men Conor Turbitt, Tiernan Kelly & Barry McCambridge from Clann Eireann, Soupy Campbell & Shane McPartland from Clan na Gael and Andrew Murnin from St Pauls.
Down have no Newry men, and haven't had for years!!

Armagh clubs similar, Harps and Ogs haven't provided much to the county for a while for the size/tradition in both clubs. McElroy from Harps is the only one at the minute I can think of and he's only back.

And gone for this year I am told along with Vinny Brady which means zero players from Armagh City currently on panel. 

Lurgan would be stronger than Armagh for GAA?

You'd think Armagh City would be a lot stronger.

[general_lee]

Compare Newry to Lurgan. Similar size towns about 25 miles apart. Newry would be a bit bigger with an almost entirely nationalist population,  whereas Lurgan is famously split and would historically have more social problems. Newry is surrounded by GAA heartland where Lurgan is surrounded by very mixed countryside.
This year playing for Armagh in the Championship were Lurgan men Conor Turbitt, Tiernan Kelly & Barry McCambridge from Clann Eireann, Soupy Campbell & Shane McPartland from Clan na Gael and Andrew Murnin from St Pauls.
Down have no Newry men, and haven't had for years!!

Armagh clubs similar, Harps and Ogs haven't provided much to the county for a while for the size/tradition in both clubs. McElroy from Harps is the only one at the minute I can think of and he's only back.

And gone for this year I am told along with Vinny Brady which means zero players from Armagh City currently on panel. 

Lurgan would be stronger than Armagh for GAA?

You'd think Armagh City would be a lot stronger.

Not really. Lurgan has near twice the population of Armagh city (31k and 16k).
Armagh is approx 67% fenian, Lurgan around 62%...

[Armagh18]

Compare Newry to Lurgan. Similar size towns about 25 miles apart. Newry would be a bit bigger with an almost entirely nationalist population,  whereas Lurgan is famously split and would historically have more social problems. Newry is surrounded by GAA heartland where Lurgan is surrounded by very mixed countryside.
This year playing for Armagh in the Championship were Lurgan men Conor Turbitt, Tiernan Kelly & Barry McCambridge from Clann Eireann, Soupy Campbell & Shane McPartland from Clan na Gael and Andrew Murnin from St Pauls.
Down have no Newry men, and haven't had for years!!

Armagh clubs similar, Harps and Ogs haven't provided much to the county for a while for the size/tradition in both clubs. McElroy from Harps is the only one at the minute I can think of and he's only back.

And gone for this year I am told along with Vinny Brady which means zero players from Armagh City currently on panel. 

Lurgan would be stronger than Armagh for GAA?

You'd think Armagh City would be a lot stronger.

Not really. Lurgan has near twice the population of Armagh city (31k and 16k).
Armagh is approx 67% fenian, Lurgan around 62%...

Wouldn't have thought it be as high tbh.

[armaghniac]

Not really. Lurgan has near twice the population of Armagh city (31k and 16k).
Armagh is approx 67% fenian, Lurgan around 62%...

Wouldn't have thought it be as high tbh.

On Census day (21 March 2021) there were 16,310 people living in Armagh.[5] Of these: 67.3% (10,977) belong to or were brought up in the Catholic Christian faith and 23.76% (3,875) belong to or were brought up in a 'Protestant and Other Christian (including Christian related)' religion. 1.35% belong to other religions and 7.59% have no religious background.

The two Armagh city clubs have twice the pick of Armagh clubs generally.

[befair]

Newry Mitchels, winners of four Down SFC titles in the 60's and the home club of the great Sean O'Neill are now defunct and out of being. Similarly, Ballykinlar, a team who reached Down SFC finals in the 60's and won a few JFC titles in the 90's are now folded too. Again, the club of Paddy 'Mo' Doherty as well.

One of my earliest memories is being at the Down championship final between Newry Mitchels and Ballykinlar in 1963 (I think). Mitchels won 4-2 to 1-10. I met Paddy Doherty after the game and he was such a legend it was like meeting Santa Claus.
The decline of both clubs since then has been very sad to watch

[Rossfan]

Kerins ORahillys from Tralee relegated to Intermediate in Kerry last night.
Senior since 1927.
The 3 Tralee Clubs all Inter now!!

[marty34]

Kerins ORahillys from Tralee relegated to Intermediate in Kerry last night.
Senior since 1927.
The 3 Tralee Clubs all Inter now!!

That's deadly.