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#1006
General discussion / Re: American Sports Thread
December 03, 2016, 05:43:39 AM
Washington 41-10 over Colorado...should lock in number 4 spot for Washington, and up to three if Clemson lose or under-perform.


#1007
General discussion / Re: American Sports Thread
December 02, 2016, 10:19:38 PM
Quote from: Syferus on December 02, 2016, 10:06:55 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on December 02, 2016, 08:17:24 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on December 02, 2016, 10:53:17 AM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on November 30, 2016, 11:19:31 PM
AZ, remember Penn State lost to Michigan 49-10...and also lost to Pittsburgh.  Can't see them leaping over Michigan, no matter how big a win over Wisconsin.

Clemson should beat Va Tech to hold third spot.  I'm not sure about Washington beating Colorado - the game is in Santa Clara, CA so weather should not be a factor.  If Colorado win, it means Washington drop to 5 and Michigan go up to 4 and are in the playoff.  That would put two Big Ten teams in the playoffs, neither of whom even played in their conference final. 

That would be crazy.  There has to be a few GAA lads on the committee is the only conclusion I can come to.

One of the sports chat shows today suggested the BCS standings be revealed only once, after the conference championship games.  But that would eliminate news and discussion on the interim weekly polls and that would not be welcome.

Alabama should win it all comfortably anyway.

If Penn State win the Big 10, and don't go, there will be war. In my mind the only way Michigan get in is if Wisconsin win, and Washington or Clemson lose. In that case it would be Alabama, Ohio State, Washington/Clemson or Michigan/Wisconsin

If Penn State win, I think they go because they have 1 loss, beat Ohio State, and won the Big 10. The committee has always said they value Championships immensely.

If Penn State Win, Washington Win and Clemson Win, I think it will be Alabama, Penn State, Clemson and either Ohio State or Washington.

Penn State have 2 losses, AZ.  Hammered by Michigan and lost to Pittsburgh as well.  Michigan did not drop from No 2 when they lost to Iowa on a late field goal.  That is keeping them in the conversation, and that alone. They should have dropped to 4 that week, and to 6 after losing to Ohio State.  But they didn't. 

Rarely to teams drop when they don't play...that is the Big Ten's problem, with Ohio State and Michigan not playing any more games. I see the top 4 staying the same...Alabama play Michigan, Ohio State get Clemson.  Alabama to have two easy wins, unless a raft of suspensions appear for academic or social reasons - every year at least one school loses 4 or 5 players.

..except Michigan are #5 not #4. If the rankings stay as is Washington play the Tide.

If everyone playing this weekend wins Penn State have to get in and if justice is done it will be at Ohio's expense. Ignoring a win v a team in the top four and a Power Five title would do an incredible amount of damage to the credibility of the new playoff system and its committee.

The sooner this expands to eight teams the better.

Nail on head there with expand to eight teams.  The arguments between 8 and 9 would be less dramatic as neither would be legitimate contenders.  Or maybe 6, with a bye week for the top two?

Indeed Washington are 4 and Michigan 5...I think the best upset possibility is Colorado beating Washington or playing them close enough to let Michigan back up to 4.

#1008
General discussion / Re: American Sports Thread
December 02, 2016, 08:17:24 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on December 02, 2016, 10:53:17 AM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on November 30, 2016, 11:19:31 PM
AZ, remember Penn State lost to Michigan 49-10...and also lost to Pittsburgh.  Can't see them leaping over Michigan, no matter how big a win over Wisconsin.

Clemson should beat Va Tech to hold third spot.  I'm not sure about Washington beating Colorado - the game is in Santa Clara, CA so weather should not be a factor.  If Colorado win, it means Washington drop to 5 and Michigan go up to 4 and are in the playoff.  That would put two Big Ten teams in the playoffs, neither of whom even played in their conference final. 

That would be crazy.  There has to be a few GAA lads on the committee is the only conclusion I can come to.

One of the sports chat shows today suggested the BCS standings be revealed only once, after the conference championship games.  But that would eliminate news and discussion on the interim weekly polls and that would not be welcome.

Alabama should win it all comfortably anyway.

If Penn State win the Big 10, and don't go, there will be war. In my mind the only way Michigan get in is if Wisconsin win, and Washington or Clemson lose. In that case it would be Alabama, Ohio State, Washington/Clemson or Michigan/Wisconsin

If Penn State win, I think they go because they have 1 loss, beat Ohio State, and won the Big 10. The committee has always said they value Championships immensely.

If Penn State Win, Washington Win and Clemson Win, I think it will be Alabama, Penn State, Clemson and either Ohio State or Washington.

Penn State have 2 losses, AZ.  Hammered by Michigan and lost to Pittsburgh as well.  Michigan did not drop from No 2 when they lost to Iowa on a late field goal.  That is keeping them in the conversation, and that alone. They should have dropped to 4 that week, and to 6 after losing to Ohio State.  But they didn't. 

Rarely to teams drop when they don't play...that is the Big Ten's problem, with Ohio State and Michigan not playing any more games. I see the top 4 staying the same...Alabama play Michigan, Ohio State get Clemson.  Alabama to have two easy wins, unless a raft of suspensions appear for academic or social reasons - every year at least one school loses 4 or 5 players.
#1009
General discussion / Re: American Sports Thread
November 30, 2016, 11:19:31 PM
AZ, remember Penn State lost to Michigan 49-10...and also lost to Pittsburgh.  Can't see them leaping over Michigan, no matter how big a win over Wisconsin.

Clemson should beat Va Tech to hold third spot.  I'm not sure about Washington beating Colorado - the game is in Santa Clara, CA so weather should not be a factor.  If Colorado win, it means Washington drop to 5 and Michigan go up to 4 and are in the playoff.  That would put two Big Ten teams in the playoffs, neither of whom even played in their conference final. 

That would be crazy.  There has to be a few GAA lads on the committee is the only conclusion I can come to.

One of the sports chat shows today suggested the BCS standings be revealed only once, after the conference championship games.  But that would eliminate news and discussion on the interim weekly polls and that would not be welcome.

Alabama should win it all comfortably anyway.

#1010
Play till you hear the whistle, just like always.  No whistle, no mark.  Hear a whistle, everyone stops and referee indicates spot where free kick to be taken from.  Referee starts counting down 5...4...3...2...1...0 and if free not by the time 0 is hit, ball thrown up.

What am I missing?

#1011
GAA Discussion / Re: Munster Club Championships 2016
November 29, 2016, 02:57:03 PM
Quote from: shark on November 28, 2016, 09:57:03 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on November 28, 2016, 08:37:10 PM
Quote from: shark on November 28, 2016, 05:11:01 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on November 28, 2016, 04:35:58 PM
Quote from: westbound on November 28, 2016, 09:37:26 AM

Such rubbish!

Every county board is entitled to set up their own championships in whatever format they like.

If a county thinks that by putting less clubs in the senior club championship that they will win more intermediate and junior club all irelands then there is nothing to stop them from doing it!

In addition, the kerry county championship has had divisional sides in it long before the all ireland club series for intermediate and junior teams was introduced. It's not as if Kerry saw the inter and junior all ireland championships introduced and thought how can we restructure our championships to win more of these!

I completely agree that the Kerry system improves that standard of players in kerry because EVERY player in the county gets an opportunity to play senior club championship.
BUT, I believe MORE counties should adopt this format!
Shouldn't the objective in every club/county be to get players playing at as high a level as possible to improve the standard as much as possible?

It's very hard to argue that the Kerry club/divisional setup isn't very successful in terms of contributing to intercounty and club success.

Why more counties don't adopt similar structures utterly baffles me.

It's hard enough to get championships ran off as it is. You wouldn't be able to run intermediate championship games on the same weekend as senior ones. And then think of counties with duel considerations.

Kerry don't have a huge hurling constituency to deal with but that's true for a lot of other counties.

Also Kerry are generally involved in the championship well into August if not September but I'm struggling to think if they ever failed to provide representatives for Munster.

2015 they had a situation where Legion represented them against Nemo, having drawn the county final the previous weekend. They have their problems with the calendar too.

The scenario with Killarney Legion is covered by rule within the Kerry county board as I recall...they seem to plan for county success was what I got out of that situation.

If they are so successful though, would you not expect others to copy the Kerry method?  The fact that not many do seems to suggest that the Kerry way is not viewed as being any good.  Why is that?

#1012
Number one regret would surely be not asking if this is my deathbed before entering it?

#1013
GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Club SFC 2016
November 28, 2016, 01:57:55 AM
That treble must be one of the rarest in the GAA.  Fair play to all involved.

#1014
GAA Discussion / Re: Munster Club Championships 2016
November 28, 2016, 01:29:40 AM
27 Nov – updating senior and intermediate football finals, plus confirming time and venue for junior final in hurling and football next Sunday

Senior Football

QF:  30 Oct.  Dr. Crokes (Kerry) 1-14  Kilmurry/Ibrickane (Clare) 0-08 
QF: 30 Oct.  Carbery Rangers (Cork) 2-11  Monaleen (Limerick) 0-07

SF:  13 Nov.  Dr. Crokes (Kerry) 1-12 Loughmore-Castleiney (Tipperary) 0-9
SF: 13 Nov.  The Nire (Waterford) 2-15 Carbery Rangers (Cork) 1-13 AET

Final: 27 Nov Dr. Crokes (Kerry) 3-15  The Nire (Waterford) 0-6

Intermediate Football

QF:  30 Oct. Kenmare (Kerry) 4-24  Fethard (Tipperary) 0-05 
QF: Adare (Limerick) w/o Waterford (scr.)

SF:  13 Nov. Kenmare (Kerry) 3-11 Kilfenora (Clare) 0-7
SF:  13 Nov. Adare (Limerick) 0-13 Kiskeam (Cork) 0-10

Final:  27 Nov Kenmare (Kerry) 1-20  Adare (Limerick) 1-8

Junior Football

QF:  6 Nov.  Gabriel Rangers (Cork) 2-11 Meelick (Clare) 0-02
QF:  13 Nov.  Glenbeigh-Glencar (Kerry) w/o Waterford scr.

SF: 19 Nov.  Gabriel Rangers (Cork) 1-13 Clonoulty-Rossmore (Tipperary) 1-4
SF: 19 Nov.  Glenbeigh-Glencar (Kerry) 1-13 Gerald Griffins (Limerick) 0-6

Final 4 Dec. Gabriel Rangers (Cork) v Glenbeigh-Glencar (Kerry) in Mallow 3:15pm

Senior Hurling

QF:  30 Oct Thurles Sarsfields (Tipperary) 0-17 Ballygunner (Waterford) 0-16

SF:  6 Nov.  Glen Rovers (Cork) 0-15  Patrickswell (Limerick) 0-14
SF: 6 Nov.  Ballyea (Clare) 4-18  Thurles Sarsfields (Tipperary) 2-22

Final: 20 Nov  Ballyea (Clare) 1-21 Glen Rovers (Cork) 2-10

Intermediate Hurling

QF:  30 Oct.  Lismore (Waterford) 2-20  Bandon (Cork) 1-12
QF:  22 Oct.  Monaleen (Limerick) 2-21  St. Josephs (Clare) 3-13

SF:  6 Nov. Kilmoyley (Kerry) 4-12  Monaleen (Limerick) 0-13
SF:  5 Nov. Lismore (Waterford) 1-15  Newport (Tipperary) 1-12

Final: 19 Nov  Lismore (Waterford) 2-14 Kilmoyley (Kerry) 0-13

Junior Hurling

QF:  29 Oct.  Ballyduff Lower (Waterford) 0-15 Kilgarvan (Kerry) 0-05
QF:  30 Oct.  Mayfield (Cork) 4-34 St. Patricks (Limerick) 0-02

SF: 13 Nov.  Mayfield (Cork) 1-27 Bodyke (Clare) 1-7
SF: 13 Nov.  Ballyduff Lower (Waterford) 0-14 Ballybacon/Grange (Tipperary) 0-6

Final: 4 Dec.  Mayfield (Cork) v Ballyduff Lower (Waterford) in Mallow 1:30pm
#1015
General discussion / Re: American Sports Thread
November 21, 2016, 09:56:14 PM
Jurgen Klinsmann fired as US national team soccer coach.
#1016
GAA Discussion / Re: Munster Club Championships 2016
November 20, 2016, 09:26:18 PM
20 Nov – updating junior football semifinals, hurling senior and intermediate finals

Senior Football

QF:  30 Oct.  Dr. Crokes (Kerry) 1-14  Kilmurry/Ibrickane (Clare) 0-08 
QF: 30 Oct.  Carbery Rangers (Cork) 2-11  Monaleen (Limerick) 0-07

SF:  13 Nov.  Dr. Crokes (Kerry) 1-12 Loughmore-Castleiney (Tipperary) 0-9
SF: 13 Nov.  The Nire (Waterford) 2-15 Carbery Rangers (Cork) 1-13 AET

Final: 27 Nov Dr. Crokes (Kerry) v The Nire (Waterford) in Mallow 3:30pm

Intermediate Football

QF:  30 Oct. Kenmare (Kerry) 4-24  Fethard (Tipperary) 0-05 
QF: Adare (Limerick) w/o Waterford (scr.)

SF:  13 Nov. Kenmare (Kerry) 3-11 Kilfenora (Clare) 0-7
SF:  13 Nov. Adare (Limerick) 0-13 Kiskeam (Cork) 0-10

Final:  27 Nov Kenmare (Kerry) v Adare (Limerick) in Mallow 1:30pm

Junior Football

QF:  6 Nov.  Gabriel Rangers (Cork) 2-11 Meelick (Clare) 0-02
QF:  13 Nov.  Glenbeigh-Glencar (Kerry) w/o Waterford scr.

SF: 19 Nov.  Gabriel Rangers (Cork) 1-13 Clonoulty-Rossmore (Tipperary) 1-4
SF: 19 Nov.  Glenbeigh-Glencar (Kerry) 1-13 Gerald Griffins (Limerick) 0-6

Final 4 Dec. Gabriel Rangers (Cork) v Glenbeigh-Glencar (Kerry) in Mallow

Hurling:

Senior Hurling

QF:  30 Oct Thurles Sarsfields (Tipperary) 0-17 Ballygunner (Waterford) 0-16

SF:  6 Nov.  Glen Rovers (Cork) 0-15  Patrickswell (Limerick) 0-14
SF: 6 Nov.  Ballyea (Clare) 4-18  Thurles Sarsfields (Tipperary) 2-22

Final: 20 Nov  Ballyea (Clare) 1-21 Glen Rovers (Cork) 2-10

Intermediate Hurling

QF:  30 Oct.  Lismore (Waterford) 2-20  Bandon (Cork) 1-12
QF:  22 Oct.  Monaleen (Limerick) 2-21  St. Josephs (Clare) 3-13

SF:  6 Nov. Kilmoyley (Kerry) 4-12  Monaleen (Limerick) 0-13
SF:  5 Nov. Lismore (Waterford) 1-15  Newport (Tipperary) 1-12

Final: 19 Nov  Lismore (Waterford) 2-14 Kilmoyley (Kerry) 0-13

Junior Hurling

QF:  29 Oct.  Ballyduff Lower (Waterford) 0-15 Kilgarvan (Kerry) 0-05
QF:  30 Oct.  Mayfield (Cork) 4-34 St. Patricks (Limerick) 0-02

SF: 13 Nov.  Mayfield (Cork) 1-27 Bodyke (Clare) 1-7
SF: 13 Nov.  Ballyduff Lower (Waterford) 0-14 Ballybacon/Grange (Tipperary) 0-6

Final: 4 Dec.  Mayfield (Cork) v Ballyduff Lower (Waterford) in Mallow
#1017
General discussion / Re: Cryogenics
November 18, 2016, 11:58:17 PM
If you are not really dead, will pension payments continue via direct deposit?  How much up front would they want?

Could be a nice earner here maybe, for the still-spending relative. On the other hand, would any life insurance policy be paid out?

A lot to think about here...

#1018
General discussion / Re: American Sports Thread
November 16, 2016, 05:50:13 AM
I see the USA soccer team has two losses since Trump won the election...and they playing for a trip to Russia. 

Coincidence, or Policy?
#1019
GAA Discussion / Re: Munster Club Championships 2016
November 15, 2016, 07:45:37 PM
Some changes in dates, plus venue/time clarifications added to the previous post.
#1020
GAA Discussion / Re: Munster Club Championships 2016
November 14, 2016, 12:21:19 AM
Updated 15 Nov – edit some date changes, venues and times of upcoming finals.

Senior Football

QF:  30 Oct.  Dr. Crokes (Kerry) 1-14  Kilmurry/Ibrickane (Clare) 0-08 
QF: 30 Oct.  Carbery Rangers (Cork) 2-11  Monaleen (Limerick) 0-07

SF:  13 Nov.  Dr. Crokes (Kerry) 1-12 Loughmore-Castleiney (Tipperary) 0-9
SF: 13 Nov.  The Nire (Waterford) 2-15 Carbery Rangers (Cork) 1-13 AET

Final: 27 Nov Dr. Crokes (Kerry) v The Nire (Waterford) in Mallow 3:30pm

Intermediate Football

QF:  30 Oct. Kenmare (Kerry) 4-24  Fethard (Tipperary) 0-05 
QF:  Adare (Limerick) w/o Waterford (scr.)

SF:  13 Nov. Kenmare (Kerry) 3-11 Kilfenora (Clare) 0-7
SF:  13 Nov. Adare (Limerick) 0-13 Kiskeam (Cork) 0-10

Final:  27 Nov Kenmare (Kerry) v Adare (Limerick) in Mallow 1:30pm

Junior Football

QF:  6 Nov.  Gabriel Rangers (Cork) 2-11 Meelick (Clare) 0-02
QF:  13 Nov.  Glenbeigh-Glencar (Kerry) w/o Waterford scr.

SF: 19 Nov.  Clonoulty-Rossmore (Tipperary) v Gabriel Rangers (Cork) in Clonakilty 2pm
SF: 19 Nov.  Gerald Griffins (Limerick) v Glenbeigh-Glencar (Kerry) in Ballyhahill, Co. Limerick 2pm

Final on 4 Dec. in Mallow

Senior Hurling

QF:  30 Oct Thurles Sarsfields (Tipperary) 0-17 Ballygunner (Waterford) 0-16

SF:  6 Nov.  Glen Rovers (Cork) 0-15  Patrickswell (Limerick) 0-14
SF: 6 Nov. Ballyea (Clare) 4-18  Thurles Sarsfields (Tipperary) 2-22

Final: 20 Nov  Ballyea (Clare) v Glen Rovers (Cork) in Thurles 2pm

Intermediate Hurling

QF:  30 Oct. Lismore (Waterford) 2-20  Bandon (Cork) 1-12
QF:  22 Oct. Monaleen (Limerick) 2-21  St. Josephs (Clare) 3-13

SF:  6 Nov. Kilmoyley (Kerry) 4-12  Monaleen (Limerick) 0-13
SF:  5 Nov. Lismore (Waterford) 1-15  Newport (Tipperary) 1-12

Final: 19 Nov  Lismore (Waterford) v Kilmoyley (Kerry) in Mallow 2pm

Junior Hurling

QF:  29 Oct.  Ballyduff Lower (Waterford) 0-15 Kilgarvan (Kerry) 0-05
QF:  30 Oct. Mayfield (Cork) 4-34 St. Patricks (Limerick) 0-02

SF: 13 Nov. Mayfield (Cork) 1-27 Bodyke (Clare) 1-7
SF: 13 Nov. Ballyduff Lower (Waterford) 0-14 Ballybacon/Grange (Tipperary) 0-6

Final: 4 Dec.  Mayfield (Cork) v Ballyduff Lower (Waterford) in Mallow