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I already stated I'd prefer to see Arsenal pip them to the title to keep things fresh. Have never said you can win the PL without money, just that their success doesn't put my knickers in a twist. If anything I've found their emergence a breath of fresh air up to this.

Dare I say it but it's a bit like Dublin. Financial advantage, an obviously brilliant manager and a well run setup in terms of actually using money well as opposed to just throwing money needlessly at stuff.

Money on its own won't buy you success. It's definitely a big help mind you.

Maybe not as big an outlier as the Dubs as I think there's plenty financial clout and resources in other clubs in the PL to match City. There's a reason Leister were 5000/1 to win the PL, it's essentially a closed shop to only the few unless an unusual set of stars align.

Problem with City is that their recent history meant they were unfashionable and easy to label "new money trash". It's pure snobbery and I like how much their success winds people up. Sure it's starting to become a bit boring and it would be nice to see someone like Arsenal pip them this year b ut fair play to them and their manager for what they've achieved. They'll come back into the pack soon enough when he leaves. They haven't racked up a billion in debt, don't owe hundreds of millions in unpaid transfer fees to other clubs and are investing in the local community. If some sugar daddy is willing to waste his own money doing that, so what.

You forgot they've done all this by breaking financial rules and have 115 charges against them.. but yeah fair play to them.

Haven't forgot, just couldn't care less. City are entitled to appeal and if they get away scot-free all's fair in love and war. Football is incredibly corrupt, always was so I'll take my moral cues from elsewhere, certainly not from a football governing body.

PL was quite happy to follow the money and sell out, same as the big clubs in PL. Very happy to get in bed with the devil and devalue their history, FA Cup cough cough, but start crying not fair when they get blind sided by a minnow who wooed big money and then manage that money a hell of a lot better than they ever could.

But there's no point getting too worked up about it either way. I follow football for what happens on the field, not off it, and appreciate City for what they've done. A truly class team.

A Manchester City supporter and if so when did you start following them, before or after the sugar daddy selected them?

What happens off the field is what makes any team successful on it.  Manchester City without striking it rich would probably be a club struggling to retain Premier League status than winning league titles.

I didn't see the Derry/Donegal match, but I am seriously impressed by any team allegedly out played who's best players were stymied but still managed 17 points. Goals win games but can be prevented. it was 15 scores to 17.

I can never understand this post match analysis which counts the number of scores rather than total up the number of points. There is a reason why a goal is worth 3 points and that is because they are supposed to be much more difficult to score.

Mickey Harte has yet to prove that he can adapt tactically to prevent goal chances against his side while still carrying a goal threat at the other end of the pitch. He did neither last weekend.   

The latter was in no small part to the way Donegal set up. Derry was scoring goals for fun coming into last weekends game.

Yeah, expectations will be tempered for next season all right. Top 4 would be an excellent achievement for Slot or whoever the new man ends up being.

And Klopp, there will be a fist-bump statue at some point! 

And a statue that is sure to have a trademark Klopp smile/smirk

https://twitter.com/StokeyyG2/status/1783233877856706659?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1783233877856706659%7Ctwgr%5E504c72a03371367d3b0fbfcd22ea1cd5151fd03b%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2F

Two competitive semi finals and whoever wins the final will be hard stopped in the All Ireland series.

A bad night for jcpen who loves Liverpool and hates Everton so to see Liverpool lose and Everton win in the same night.. 

It was a league title to lose for Liverpool and now they need a few snookers to win it.

Few average to poor songs with one of the best ever vocalist whom had great stage presence.

The Show must go on
Who Wants to Live Forever
Fat Bottomed Girls

Tell me you know nothing about football without telling me you know nothing about football 

We all know Liverpool supporters like yourself are blinded by the reality of any situation. What I can tell you is it's probably for the best that you stick to other discussions/hobbies of yours such as golf and running. 

Mayo was loved by many neutrals for the way their played and made a lot of their games well worth watching. Am I alone in thinking Mayo right now are a bit boring and the upcoming Connacht final will be a real arm wrestling contest and not a game for the purists.

Derry were not serious All Ireland contenders ffs. They are at a level below Kerry/Dublin, same as Armagh/Mayo/Galway/Tyrone/Donegal.

A few facts:
They beat Clare and Cork to get to AISFs the last 2 years.
Kerry played sh1te against them last year and still bate them.
They won the league final against Dublin reserves and believed the hype.

I also really think the new structure hurts teams in Derrys position. 4(?) weeks of no championship football before potentially playing Dublin or Kerry.

My prediction: they'll get through the group by beating the guff but will go out at the quarter final stage to a bigger team. Questions will remain over Harte but he will get to stay and we will see the same next year, only a bit worse.

True though they were being mooted with Dublin and Kerry as top 3. That league 'win' (penalty shootout) was very overstated and hyped. Harte got left behind in managing a long time ago. Hadn't beat Dublin, Kerry or Mayo in the championship 2009-2020. I don't think that would
have happened to Rory Gallagher today.

Yeah something like that wouldn't happen with a Rory Gallagher managed team

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0722/892196-galway-v-donegal-report/#:~:text=Galway%20routed%20Donegal%20with%20a,once%2Dfeared%20defence%20to%20shreds.


https://derrygaa.ie/allianz-football-league-roinn-2-derry-0-12-galway-4-11-20-03-22/

That championship match was 2017 he'd brought them on a long way since that.. as for a league game irrelevant sure Tyrone got hammered in the league by Kerry in 2021 and took Sam up the road a few months later.
Mickey can't handle th
The big championship games... not in years...

It was relevant as Gallagher's Derry were well beaten by Galway when they met again in the championship that summer.  Donegal today under Jim McGuinness dismantled Derry in similar fashion to that Dublin v Donegal championship match in 2014.  Jim Gavin after that match made Dublin a more careful team in possession and with a strong focus that they wouldn't be caught out as easy on the counter attack again. 

Derry were not serious All Ireland contenders ffs. They are at a level below Kerry/Dublin, same as Armagh/Mayo/Galway/Tyrone/Donegal.

A few facts:
They beat Clare and Cork to get to AISFs the last 2 years.
Kerry played sh1te against them last year and still bate them.
They won the league final against Dublin reserves and believed the hype.

I also really think the new structure hurts teams in Derrys position. 4(?) weeks of no championship football before potentially playing Dublin or Kerry.

My prediction: they'll get through the group by beating the guff but will go out at the quarter final stage to a bigger team. Questions will remain over Harte but he will get to stay and we will see the same next year, only a bit worse.

True though they were being mooted with Dublin and Kerry as top 3. That league 'win' (penalty shootout) was very overstated and hyped. Harte got left behind in managing a long time ago. Hadn't beat Dublin, Kerry or Mayo in the championship 2009-2020. I don't think that would
have happened to Rory Gallagher today.

Yeah something like that wouldn't happen with a Rory Gallagher managed team

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0722/892196-galway-v-donegal-report/#:~:text=Galway%20routed%20Donegal%20with%20a,once%2Dfeared%20defence%20to%20shreds.


https://derrygaa.ie/allianz-football-league-roinn-2-derry-0-12-galway-4-11-20-03-22/

How impressive were Donegal in the midfield battle though

Hugely. You wouldn't have known Glass was playing.  Also worth noting Derry came into that game having scored 16 goals in 8 Division one games and today they scored none and struggled to create any with the way Jimmy had Donegal so well organised. 

Was the training camp too close to the game?

Harte no fan of those overseas training camps can see why today.

At least this nonsense of Derry being all ireland contenders can settle down for a while.

Doesn't Harte likes to win the All Ireland after getting knocked out of Ulster?

If there was any justice City would be stripped of all their titles. Will admit that Liverpool side did unbelievably well to get near that financially and I've a feeling physically doped team. Bit like that Mayo team running into the Dubs but at least Liverpool got their title!

Mayo are similar, All Ireland finals there to be won against Dublin in 2016,17 and found ways to lose them and even when they took out Dublin in 2012,2021 they ended up losing to Donegal,Tyrone.  We can all talk about the advantages of Manchester City and how much of soulless club there are however they weren't winning that 2021/22 league title without that Liverpool slip up with a few games to play against Tottenham who they more often than not beat in Anfield.

[winning the league nigh on impossible]

It is a shame that he came up against 115 charges FC in his tenure which made winning the league nigh on impossible and who knows, if they do throw the book at city in years to come, what he achieved may be more appreciated.

In season 2021/22 it wasn't that as a win against Tottenham at home instead of a draw with three games to play would have won the league title for Liverpool.