Down Club Hurling & Football

[skat man]

If there is a pattern between club and county success, I've yet to see it. It appears to be totally random.

You had Crossmaglen breezing through Armagh and being successful during a period when Armagh rose to win an All Ireland.
Alternatively, you have Kilcoo breezing through Down and being successful during a poor period of Down county football.
And, as you say, Tyrone were a dominant team in Ulster when their club championship was ultra competitive but they have no standout club.

There is no link.

i would have to disagree, tyrone are in the mix every year in ulster and all ireland , they are consistent in that regard , other teams have flashes of 1-3 years but tyrone are always in the top 8 in ireland imo . so surely that correlates to say what they are doing at club level is successful or at least more consistently successful ?

[statto]

If there is a pattern between club and county success, I've yet to see it. It appears to be totally random.

You had Crossmaglen breezing through Armagh and being successful during a period when Armagh rose to win an All Ireland.
Alternatively, you have Kilcoo breezing through Down and being successful during a poor period of Down county football.
And, as you say, Tyrone were a dominant team in Ulster when their club championship was ultra competitive but they have no standout club.

There is no link.

in relation to cross they won all irelands in 2011 &2012 when Armagh wee very much in a transition phase and one of the weaker sides in Ulster.  You would think that a good club side should be good for the county though. I would imagine cross first all ireland certainly helped Armagh eventually get over the line from a mentality point of view.

[snoopdog]

Down weren't massively improved when thr kilcoo boys came back in. Now Down Re obviously a work in progress and the lack of big men doesn't do them much good either. But bar them and Burren what club are producing good underage teams consistently.  Tyrone are always competitive at all grades. So their clubs,  schools and development squads are doing a lot right. Success breeds success. Derry are starting on that curve also competing at all levels. A dominant successful club in a county does very little for the county team. Bar Dr crokes with Cooper in the team when did a kerry team last win an senior all Ireland club.  Dub clubs prob different due to sheer numbers. Can't be any bigger clubs in country compared to Kilmacud, Ballyboden,Judes, Vincent's.

[Hard2Listen2]

Hearing rumours of a few more managerial movers but not confirmed yet.

Anyone else hear anything?

Truth Hurts you're usually in the know. What's happening?

[sdg]

Hearing rumours of a few more managerial movers but not confirmed yet.

Anyone else hear anything?

Truth Hurts you're usually in the know. What's happening?

Sure why don't you tell us the rumours?

[Hard2Listen2]

Hearing rumours of a few more managerial movers but not confirmed yet.

Anyone else hear anything?

Truth Hurts you're usually in the know. What's happening?

Sure why don't you tell us the rumours?

Wouldn't be right to put something up until it's confirmed. Could be embarrassing to any individual or club if it's not true.

[sdg]

Hearing rumours of a few more managerial movers but not confirmed yet.

Anyone else hear anything?

Truth Hurts you're usually in the know. What's happening?

Sure why don't you tell us the rumours?

Wouldn't be right to put something up until it's confirmed. Could be embarrassing to any individual or club if it's not true.

So you would be happy for others to give out names?

[Hard2Listen2]

Hearing rumours of a few more managerial movers but not confirmed yet.

Anyone else hear anything?

Truth Hurts you're usually in the know. What's happening?

Sure why don't you tell us the rumours?

Wouldn't be right to put something up until it's confirmed. Could be embarrassing to any individual or club if it's not true.

So you would be happy for others to give out names?

If they know for a fact then yea.

[skat man]

byransford gone with an inside man , not sure of the name

[Kong King]

byransford gone with an inside man , not sure of the name

Hard2listen2 any rumors about this

[SticksandStones]

byransford gone with an inside man , not sure of the name

Hard2listen2 any rumors about this

Hard2listen2 doesn't use rumours. Only Facts

[Hard2Listen2]

byransford gone with an inside man , not sure of the name

Jim Magorrian. Former player & juvenile coach.
#fact

[Splash]

Good luck to all the Down teams starting their Ulster Campaigns this weekend.

No reason why Kilclief can't beat Swatragh , although they may struggle to keep up with the Derry men.

Bredagh very unfortunate to draw Creggan. Two of the best teams in the championship. Nonetheless, they'll not fear them and dumping the Antrim champions out is a good start to any campaign.

Fintona, from what I'm told, could be a hard test for Drumaness.

Teemore could be the same for Liatroim, but the Fontenoys have the players to go on a good run. Winning two provincial titles in two years across two codes would be some going for them.

Would imagine Kilcoo game is pretty straightforward conclusion?

[Johnnysboys]

Kilcoo - K Lacey (leaving after season ends)
Burren - ??
CPN - ??
Clonduff - ??
Mayobridge - Bernie Murray
Carryduff - F Moriarty
Loughinisland - C O'Toole
Bredagh - G & T McAnulty
Ballyholland - S Mulholland
Castlewellan - Barney Cunningham

Division 2

Longstone - C Branigan
Bryansford - Jim Magorrian
RGU - K Duffin & C McCrickard
Rostrevor - ??
Saval - ??
Saul - Danny Hughes/Gavin Trainor
Liatroim - P Murray & S Johnson
Shamrocks - DJ Kane
An Riocht  - C Kelly
St John's - S Curran

Division 3

Glenn - S Clark
Drumgath - P Hynes
Annaclone- J Clarke
Ballymartin- ??
Attical - Rafferty
Tullylish - R McShane
Darragh - B Mason
Banbridge- P Feeney
Bosco - M McVeigh
Finn - M Copeland

Division 4

Drumaness - P Morgan
St Paul's- P Hannigan
Bright - ??
Dromara - J Fegan
Teconnaght - C Laverty
Kilclief - ??
Ardglass - ??
Dundrum - R McCartan
East Belfast - ??
Aghaderg - ??
St Michael's - L McAlinden
Glasdrumman - ??

Any update on the ?

[Hard2Listen2]

John Kennedy to Clonduff?