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#31
General discussion / Re: British State Collusion
November 03, 2017, 08:54:18 AM
Quote from: Oraisteach on November 03, 2017, 01:51:33 AM
What revelations about Loughinisland did the Irish News make today, and what's the name of the upcoming documentary?   I read Lethal Allies, and it was very disturbing.

Documentary is called "No Stone Unturned" and is in cinemas next Friday

According to the Irish News, the documentary alleges
-One of the gang was a Special Branch Informant
-Informant told Special Branch when and where the attack would take place
-On the day of the attack, Informant told Special Branch attack was off due to mechanical issues with getaway car
-A women who was a civilian RUC worker twice informed the RUC that her husband was the shooter and informed the RUC who the other two members of the gang where.
#32
General discussion / Re: British State Collusion
November 02, 2017, 08:56:04 PM
As a Loughinisland man I found todays Irish News deeply disturbing. Some of the revelation that are disclosed in the upcoming documentary made me think how could something like this happen in the latter end of the 20th Century and today's revelations no one seems to have batted an eyelid.

Just because it happened in Northern Ireland, doesn't mean it should be treated any differently . Imagine something like this happened in England?
#33
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
October 27, 2017, 04:39:05 PM
Main problem this year was that county management had too much power when it came to the starring of fixtures. Our own club had someone on the county panel who played no championship minutes and was unavailable for the club for around 7/8 weeks. A bit of common sense should have prevailed here but it didn't

In that time frame we had three draws and two one point defeats, not saying we would have won those matches and although not a fan of playoff when you have one side not being able to field their strongest side for a 7/8 week period and someone finishing above you who had no one in the county panel something needs to be done to address this.
#34
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
October 27, 2017, 03:21:06 PM
One comment I see being brought up recently is that smaller clubs seem to be able to retain youth players better than the bigger clubs as with a smaller club once your out of minor and if you're of decent standard your straight into the senior and more inclined to stick around and go into further education/work in Northern Ireland

If you're an 18 year old in a bigger club, you probably know it going to 4/5 years until you get into their senior side, you're more likely inclined to go to Uni accross the water and give up GAA all together

Not sure what the stats are for this.

In reality the  reserve teams in Div 3/4 are only going to strengthen the bigger clubs but at the same time should increase the numbers playing in the county
#35
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
October 27, 2017, 12:37:44 PM
Quote from: Mike Tyson on October 27, 2017, 12:27:26 PM
Quote from: DownFanatic on October 27, 2017, 10:34:45 AM
I think it is a positive thing that Down CCC are always looking at ways to improve our competitions and there has obviously been a lot of thought go into these new proposals. However, I'm not sure it will work.
Clubs like Kilcoo and Burren are increasingly using the depth of their panel to get through their Division 1 campaigns. Both probably used at least 30 different players this year.
I've no doubt the likes of Kilcoo, Burren, Clonduff and Mayobridge could cater for two senior teams in the ACFL structure.
Looking at the Armagh model the likes of Crossmaglen II's and Cullyhanna II's have essentially become a distinct entity within their club. But do our top clubs have the desire to run two teams on Friday night? Think of the logistics and personnel required to do this. Then there are the demands of the first team manager who may want 27/28 players to travel with his squad.
I'd be more inclined to see things stay how they are in this instance.
For me, and I've mooted it before, but four divisions of eight teams and one division of ten teams I think is and always has been our best option.
A two way league gives 14 fixtures for the top four divisions and 18 fixtures for the fifth division. After the league proper in the top four divisions the top four teams would go into a round robin playoff system with the top two teams at the end of this earning promotion and the top placed team winning the league. The bottom four teams would enter a relegation playoff round robin series with the bottom two getting relegated. In division five the top four teams would contest the promotion playoff only.
This all guarantees a definitive 17 league games per season for divisions 1 to 4 and at least 18 (maximum of 21) in division 5. I also think it would provide for much sterner competition and allows for a bit more flexibility with the calendar.
To add to this I'd bring in a Novice Championship. It would be essentially the fourth grade after the SFC, IFC and JFC. Teams beaten in the preliminary round and quarter finals of the JFC would then enter the NFC. Teams at the bottom of the basement division need something to strive for. The establishment of the Donard Cup and Shield has gone someway to addressing this but a proper Novice Championship would add a lot more prestige and value. Cork and Kerry run with one of these two.

Could look something like this going on this year's league positions:

Division 1

Castlewellan - Warrenpoint - Mayobridge - Burren - Kilcoo - Bryansford - Clonduff - Downpatrick

Division 2

Ballyholland - An Riocht - Longstone - Glenn - Saval - Rostrevor - Carryduff - Loughinisland

Division 3

Bredagh - St John's - Liatroim - Darragh Cross - Ballymartin - Shamrocks - Annaclone - Drumaness

Division 4

Tullylish - Clann na Banna - Drumgath - Saul - Glasdrumman - Bosco - Dundrum - Atticall

Division 5

Teconnaught - St Paul's - Ardglass - Dromara - Kilclief - St Michael's - Bright - Mitchels - Aghaderg - Ballykinlar

Like the look of that set up. How would championship work? Div1&2 = SFC, Div3&4 = IFC and Div5 = JFC?

Have to agree looks ideal based on the current strength of clubs. Apart from the odd team it would be difficult predict results in alot of the Divisions. I like the 12 team setups atm but I feel wr need to revert the championship back to straight knockout. When you have a small panel and are having to play 25/26 games fatigue/injury kicks in
#36
Burren

Burren

Bright

Rostrevor
#37
Semi Finals
SFC
Castlewellan v Burren
Kilcoo v Downpatrick.

IFC
Annaclone v Drumaness
Liatriom v Rostrevor

JFC
Dundrum v Kilclief
Dromara v Bright
#38
Quarter Finals
SFC
Burren v Mayobridge
Castlewellan v Loughinisland
Downpatrick v Ballyholland
Kilcoo v Bryansford

IFC
Tullylish v Annaclone
Liatriom v Darragh Cross
Shamrocks v Drumaness
Drumgath v Rostrevor

JFC
Ballykinler v Kilclief
Mitchels v Dundrum
St Michael's v Dromara
Bright v Ardglass
#39
Round 3
SFC
Bredagh v Ballyholland
Bryanford v Saval
Clonduff v Mayobridge
Loughinisland v CPN

IFC
Darragh Cross v Saul
Rostrevor v St Johns
Annaclone v Carryduff
Bosco v Drumaness


JFC
Round 1
St Michael's v Aghaderg
Kilclief v St Paul's

PRFC Final
Castlewellan v Kilcoo
RFC Final
Loughinisland v Mayobridge
#40
Saturday 26th August
PRFC Final
Castlewellan v Kilcoo

Saturday 26th August
RFC Final
Loughinisland v Mayobridge
#41
Senior
Bryansford   Vs   An Riocht   
Bredagh   Vs   Ballymartin   
Cumann Pheadair Naofa   Vs   RGU Downpatrick   
Clonduff   Vs   Longstone   
Loughinisland   Vs   Glenn John Martins GFC
Castlewellan   Vs   Saval   
Burren   Vs   Mayobridge   
Kilcoo   Vs   Ballyholland

Intermediate
Liatroim   Vs   Rostrevor   
Atticall   Vs   Carryduff   
St John Bosco GAC   Vs   Tullylish   
Sabhaill Naomh Pádraig   Vs   Glasdrumman   
Clann Na Banna   Vs   St John's Drumnaquoile  
St Colman's Drumaness   Vs   Teconnaught   
Newry Shamrocks   Vs   Annaclone   
Darragh Cross   Vs   Drumgath   
#42
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
August 14, 2017, 02:43:32 PM
Completely agree. Knockout far more intense and enjoyable for spectators. Unfortunately here to stay though as Co Board are not going to be willing to forfeit a revenue stream.

#43
hursday 10th August to Monday 14th August.
Down Senior Football Championship
First Round
Bryansford v CPN
Ballymartin v Saval
Longstone v Mayobridge
An Riocht v Downpatrick
Loughinisland v Ballyholland
Bredagh v Castlewellan
Kilcoo v Clonduff
Burren v Glenn

Intermediate Football Championship
First Round

Shamrocks v Tecconnaugh
Bosco v Attical
Liatriom v St John's
Drumaness v Rostrevor
Saul v Darragh Cross
Annaclone v Clann na Banna
Carryduff v Tullylish
Drumgath v Glasdrumman
#44
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
August 07, 2017, 10:05:37 AM
According to Google maps it's a 7 minute drive from Clough. Road from Clough to Ballykinlar isn't the greatest but it's by no means the worst either. There are no issues with the road between Castlewellan and Clough.

This is a route that all east down based panelists must take when travelling to county training in Newry at the minute and I don't think I have seen any posters complaining about the location of county training in Newry
#45
GAA Discussion / Re: Steps...
July 26, 2017, 12:59:49 PM
I've seen it were a player is fouled 45 yards out and ref indicates advantage. Player knows free iswithin range for the free taker and stops playing electing to take the free and ref has blown him up for overcarring and awarded a free out