All-Ireland Semi Finals set for Saturday 22 July.
Leitrim v Kerry
Britain v Meath (Britain's final is Warwickshire v Kilkenny on Saturday 1 July)
Kerry beat Cork tonight AET to claim the Munster Championship on a score of 4-24 to 3-20, sides were level at 2-17 apiece after 60 minutes. No defences must have shown up in Pairc Ui Rinn.
Any idea why Ulster doesn't enter a team?
Final set for 5 August.
Leitrim beat both Galway and Mayo to win Connacht. Their first Junior Connacht title for 13 years.
Brendan o'sullivan playing for Kerry apparently
Ulster doesn't have a team as there is no Ulster junior championship and that's because it's not worth their time to field teams. Just like ourselves. Cavan play in Leinster for some reason, yet couldn't field an adult hurling team for years.
Junior needs a serious overhaul to make it relevant again or it's the next Railway Cup and it ends up cut from the schedule. Maybe make it U23 or U25 like that trial competition in hurling and actually use it as a developmental tool?
Are all the Kerry players who won a Junior AI in 2015 eligible to play for Kerry again this year?
Is this a competition that Division 4 teams should be allowed to enter their Senior team into?
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 27, 2017, 11:44:10 PM
Are all the Kerry players who won a Junior AI in 2015 eligible to play for Kerry again this year?
Is this a competition that Division 4 teams should be allowed to enter their Senior team into?
Leitrim were playing Wayne McKeon in it this year.
When i say ''Is this a competition that Division 4 teams should be allowed to enter their Senior team into?'' I mean their full inter-county team. Not Senior players from their club championship. While still competing in the Senior Provincial and AI series.
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 27, 2017, 11:44:10 PM
Are all the Kerry players who won a Junior AI in 2015 eligible to play for Kerry again this year?
Is this a competition that Division 4 teams should be allowed to enter their Senior team into?
Kerry had two from their 2012 team and three from the 2015 team that both won the Junior All-Ireland.
They also had 5 of the starting 15 with an All-Ireland minor medal from the last three years.
Would it make sense to have the juniors and seniors training together?
Quote from: Syferus on June 27, 2017, 11:36:44 PM
Ulster doesn't have a team as there is no Ulster junior championship and that's because it's not worth their time to field teams. Just like ourselves. Cavan play in Leinster for some reason, yet couldn't field an adult hurling team for years.
Junior needs a serious overhaul to make it relevant again or it's the next Railway Cup and it ends up cut from the schedule. Maybe make it U23 or U25 like that trial competition in hurling and actually use it as a developmental tool?
There's footage of the Kerry Cork game on the Kerry GAA facebook page.
The game was streamed live on the Facebook page apparently and the video has 10,000 views.
Kerry have using it as a development panel the last few years - I saw somewhere that there was something like 8 or 10 players who played for Kerry in this years league that had played for the juniors previously.
Seems to me that a whole host of counties are missing out by not taking it more seriously.
It will become even more valuable next year when U21 goes to U20.
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 28, 2017, 02:04:14 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 27, 2017, 11:36:44 PM
Ulster doesn't have a team as there is no Ulster junior championship and that's because it's not worth their time to field teams. Just like ourselves. Cavan play in Leinster for some reason, yet couldn't field an adult hurling team for years.
Junior needs a serious overhaul to make it relevant again or it's the next Railway Cup and it ends up cut from the schedule. Maybe make it U23 or U25 like that trial competition in hurling and actually use it as a developmental tool?
There's footage of the Kerry Cork game on the Kerry GAA facebook page.
The game was streamed live on the Facebook page apparently and the video has 10,000 views.
Kerry have using it as a development panel the last few years - I saw somewhere that there was something like 8 or 10 players who played for Kerry in this years league that had played for the juniors previously.
Seems to me that a whole host of counties are missing out by not taking it more seriously.
It will become even more valuable next year when U21 goes to U20.
Correct. And also a great opportunity for the winners of the British champ to play at Croke Park as they go straight to a semi-final, unlike the club champs where they have the added quarter final. Unfortunately for all the talent in the British championship the counties are put off by a confusing (ever changing (especially mid-season)) format, and distances required to travel for games on occasion. Very few counties do any training which invariably catches up with them at the All-Ireland semi stage, but the talent is there, especially with a favorable semi-final draw.
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 28, 2017, 02:04:14 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 27, 2017, 11:36:44 PM
Ulster doesn't have a team as there is no Ulster junior championship and that's because it's not worth their time to field teams. Just like ourselves. Cavan play in Leinster for some reason, yet couldn't field an adult hurling team for years.
Junior needs a serious overhaul to make it relevant again or it's the next Railway Cup and it ends up cut from the schedule. Maybe make it U23 or U25 like that trial competition in hurling and actually use it as a developmental tool?
There's footage of the Kerry Cork game on the Kerry GAA facebook page.
The game was streamed live on the Facebook page apparently and the video has 10,000 views.
Kerry have using it as a development panel the last few years - I saw somewhere that there was something like 8 or 10 players who played for Kerry in this years league that had played for the juniors previously.
Seems to me that a whole host of counties are missing out by not taking it more seriously.
It will become even more valuable next year when U21 goes to U20.
Presumably you have to be from a jnr club though, right?
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 28, 2017, 03:26:53 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 28, 2017, 02:04:14 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 27, 2017, 11:36:44 PM
Ulster doesn't have a team as there is no Ulster junior championship and that's because it's not worth their time to field teams. Just like ourselves. Cavan play in Leinster for some reason, yet couldn't field an adult hurling team for years.
Junior needs a serious overhaul to make it relevant again or it's the next Railway Cup and it ends up cut from the schedule. Maybe make it U23 or U25 like that trial competition in hurling and actually use it as a developmental tool?
There's footage of the Kerry Cork game on the Kerry GAA facebook page.
The game was streamed live on the Facebook page apparently and the video has 10,000 views.
Kerry have using it as a development panel the last few years - I saw somewhere that there was something like 8 or 10 players who played for Kerry in this years league that had played for the juniors previously.
Seems to me that a whole host of counties are missing out by not taking it more seriously.
It will become even more valuable next year when U21 goes to U20.
Presumably you have to be from a jnr club though, right?
i think it depends on the county . stronger counties are expect to only play junior( and intermediate?) . far as I know in mayo its just junior player though they may be from senior clubs as there was a lad from castlebar playing last year.
weaker counties play senior players not currently with inter county team.
Quote from: rosnarun on June 28, 2017, 03:41:28 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 28, 2017, 03:26:53 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 28, 2017, 02:04:14 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 27, 2017, 11:36:44 PM
Ulster doesn't have a team as there is no Ulster junior championship and that's because it's not worth their time to field teams. Just like ourselves. Cavan play in Leinster for some reason, yet couldn't field an adult hurling team for years.
Junior needs a serious overhaul to make it relevant again or it's the next Railway Cup and it ends up cut from the schedule. Maybe make it U23 or U25 like that trial competition in hurling and actually use it as a developmental tool?
There's footage of the Kerry Cork game on the Kerry GAA facebook page.
The game was streamed live on the Facebook page apparently and the video has 10,000 views.
Kerry have using it as a development panel the last few years - I saw somewhere that there was something like 8 or 10 players who played for Kerry in this years league that had played for the juniors previously.
Seems to me that a whole host of counties are missing out by not taking it more seriously.
It will become even more valuable next year when U21 goes to U20.
Presumably you have to be from a jnr club though, right?
i think it depends on the county . stronger counties are expect to only play junior( and intermediate?) . far as I know in mayo its just junior player though they may be from senior clubs as there was a lad from castlebar playing last year.
weaker counties play senior players not currently with inter county team.
Mayo, Meath, Cork, Kerry and (Dublin when they took part) can't pick players from senior club teams.
They can pick from intermediate and junior.
I think Galway might be in this category as well.
Everyone else can pick from everyone bar the members of the senior panel.
Also if you won the final the last year, you can't play this year i.e Kerry won it last year, so all their players are eligible.
I have heard of a few counties deciding to use it as a development squad/stepping stone to the seniors - Cavan and Wexford I think had this policy for a while.
Also someone was asking about both panels training together and I'm pretty sure I've heard of the senior manager also being responsible for the juniors as well. Don't know if there was any training together - might not be feasible, but you'd imagine that you'd at least get a handy enough challenge game or two out of it.
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 28, 2017, 10:28:01 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on June 28, 2017, 03:41:28 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on June 28, 2017, 03:26:53 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on June 28, 2017, 02:04:14 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 27, 2017, 11:36:44 PM
Ulster doesn't have a team as there is no Ulster junior championship and that's because it's not worth their time to field teams. Just like ourselves. Cavan play in Leinster for some reason, yet couldn't field an adult hurling team for years.
Junior needs a serious overhaul to make it relevant again or it's the next Railway Cup and it ends up cut from the schedule. Maybe make it U23 or U25 like that trial competition in hurling and actually use it as a developmental tool?
There's footage of the Kerry Cork game on the Kerry GAA facebook page.
The game was streamed live on the Facebook page apparently and the video has 10,000 views.
Kerry have using it as a development panel the last few years - I saw somewhere that there was something like 8 or 10 players who played for Kerry in this years league that had played for the juniors previously.
Seems to me that a whole host of counties are missing out by not taking it more seriously.
It will become even more valuable next year when U21 goes to U20.
Presumably you have to be from a jnr club though, right?
i think it depends on the county . stronger counties are expect to only play junior( and intermediate?) . far as I know in mayo its just junior player though they may be from senior clubs as there was a lad from castlebar playing last year.
weaker counties play senior players not currently with inter county team.
Mayo, Meath, Cork, Kerry and (Dublin when they took part) can't pick players from senior club teams.
They can pick from intermediate and junior.
I think Galway might be in this category as well.
Everyone else can pick from everyone bar the members of the senior panel.
Also if you won the final the last year, you can't play this year i.e Kerry won it last year, so all their players are eligible.
I have heard of a few counties deciding to use it as a development squad/stepping stone to the seniors - Cavan and Wexford I think had this policy for a while.
Also someone was asking about both panels training together and I'm pretty sure I've heard of the senior manager also being responsible for the juniors as well. Don't know if there was any training together - might not be feasible, but you'd imagine that you'd at least get a handy enough challenge game or two out of it.
When even super counties like Mayo are cutting lads in July to save cash the idea of a junior team training with the seniors is so incredibly fanciful it's hard to process.
Half time in the All-Ireland Semi Finals
Kerry 1-8 Leitrim 1-1
Meath 0-8 Kilkenny 0-5
Results
Kerry 1-16 Leitrim 1-9
Meath 2-19 Kilkenny 2-8
Better 2nd half from Meath after a sluggish 1st half. Decent effort by Leitrim when you take in account they were missing a number of starters today.
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 22, 2017, 04:22:27 PM
Results
Kerry 1-16 Leitrim 1-9
Meath 2-19 Kilkenny 2-8
Better 2nd half from Meath after a sluggish 1st half. Decent effort by Leitrim when you take in account they were missing a number of starters today.
Defeated by just 11 points, the open top bus for John Street is being prepared as we speak!
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 22, 2017, 04:22:27 PM
Results
Kerry 1-16 Leitrim 1-9
Meath 2-19 Kilkenny 2-8
Better 2nd half from Meath after a sluggish 1st half. Decent effort by Leitrim when you take in account they were missing a number of starters today.
How come two leinster teams were in a SF?
Quote from: macdanger2 on July 23, 2017, 08:13:59 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on July 22, 2017, 04:22:27 PM
Results
Kerry 1-16 Leitrim 1-9
Meath 2-19 Kilkenny 2-8
Better 2nd half from Meath after a sluggish 1st half. Decent effort by Leitrim when you take in account they were missing a number of starters today.
How come two leinster teams were in a SF?
Kilkenny entered into the Britain part of the competition, which they won. Ulster has decided this competition is beneath them and do not participate. Therefore the four semi-final teams are the winners of the Connacht, Leinster, Munster and Britain championships. The semi-final draws were Munster v Connacht and Leinster v Britain, resulting in Kerry (Munster) beating Leitrim (Connacht) and Meath (Leinster) beating Kilkenny (Britain).
The final is Kerry v Meath which may be played as part of a double header with the minor quarter final between Kerry and Louth on Aug 5? Nothing decided yet on that possibility.
Junior is beneath a lot more than just Ulster teams. It's a competition that should not exist in its current form and the fact that it does is sheer neglect by the GAA. Fluting about with minor and U21 was nonsense when they didn't even try to address the failures of that new approach by revamping junior. Kerry to win a bit of tin handy enough in the final.
Syfīn has spoken....... ::)
A Special Congress will now be called to
Restore U18 and U21
Abolish Junior Inter County
Return Kilkenny to Leinster
Reverse the Super 8
Anything else the Oracle from the West wants
Quote from: Rossfan on July 23, 2017, 11:12:57 AM
Syfīn has spoken....... ::)
A Special Congress will now be called to
Restore U18 and U21
Abolish Junior Inter County
Return Kilkenny to Leinster
Reverse the Super 8
Anything else the Oracle from the West wants
Are you still drunk?
Quote from: Rossfan on July 23, 2017, 11:12:57 AM
Syfīn has spoken....... ::)
A Special Congress will now be called to
Restore U18 and U21
Abolish Junior Inter County
Return Kilkenny to Leinster
Reverse the Super 8
Anything else the Oracle from the West wants
Restoring the U21 football championship and reversing the super 8 would be too much of a sensible move for the GAA HQ to make.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 23, 2017, 11:12:57 AM
Syfīn has spoken....... ::)
A Special Congress will now be called to
Restore U18 and U21
Abolish Junior Inter County
Return Kilkenny to Leinster
Reverse the Super 8
Anything else the Oracle from the West wants
What's wrong with any of that?
Quote from: Owenmoresider on July 23, 2017, 02:08:09 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 23, 2017, 11:12:57 AM
Syfīn has spoken....... ::)
A Special Congress will now be called to
Restore U18 and U21
Abolish Junior Inter County
Return Kilkenny to Leinster
Reverse the Super 8
Anything else the Oracle from the West wants
What's wrong with any of that?
It won't happen because Syfīn wants it ;)
Another All Ireland title for Kerry.
All Ireland Junior Final FT Meath 1-14 Kerry 2-19
Quote from: Owenmoresider on July 23, 2017, 02:08:09 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 23, 2017, 11:12:57 AM
Syfīn has spoken....... ::)
A Special Congress will now be called to
Restore U18 and U21
Abolish Junior Inter County
Return Kilkenny to Leinster
Reverse the Super 8
Anything else the Oracle from the West wants
What's wrong with any of that?
Plenty. Why would you reverse the super 8 before it's had a chance? Why would abolish the junior? What's wrong with going U17 and U20?
Quote from: Zulu on August 05, 2017, 05:25:46 PM
Quote from: Owenmoresider on July 23, 2017, 02:08:09 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 23, 2017, 11:12:57 AM
Syfīn has spoken....... ::)
A Special Congress will now be called to
Restore U18 and U21
Abolish Junior Inter County
Return Kilkenny to Leinster
Reverse the Super 8
Anything else the Oracle from the West wants
What's wrong with any of that?
Plenty. Why would you reverse the super 8 before it's had a chance? Why would abolish the junior? What's wrong with going U17 and U20?
Do we not know what a round robin system is?
What you're saying is akin to saying sure you've not even tasted the rat poison, why not give it a chance?
The Zu guide to keeping Dublin on top - agree with everything Duffy proposes.
Syferus, we all appreciate you can't think things through very well but Duffy's hands were tied by the feedback from the GAA membership. I, Duffy, nor anyone else believe the super 8 is the solution to our problems but it is an attempt at addressing some of the issues within the straightjacket of keeping the provincial championships and not taking up more time from clubs. It will produce dead rubbers but also winner takes all games and more quality games. Those of us with a drop of sense will give it a chance and see where it goes because what we have isn't good enough.
The Kerry Junior team is made up only of players who are not playing senior at club level, and it has provided an additional development pathway with several players such as Tadhg Morley and Anthony Maher graduating to the senior panel.
Quote from: Sionnach on August 07, 2017, 07:03:41 PM
The Kerry Junior team is made up only of players who are not playing senior at club level, and it has provided an additional development pathway with several players such as Tadhg Morley and Anthony Maher graduating to the senior panel.
That's every club in Kerry they can pick from bar the 8 Senior teams.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 07, 2017, 08:18:33 PM
Quote from: Sionnach on August 07, 2017, 07:03:41 PM
The Kerry Junior team is made up only of players who are not playing senior at club level, and it has provided an additional development pathway with several players such as Tadhg Morley and Anthony Maher graduating to the senior panel.
That's every club in Kerry they can pick from bar the 8 Senior teams.
Most of the teams in the competition can pick any player in the county bar anyone who has played with the county seniors this year or last.
The only counties the senior club thing applies to are Kerry, Cork, Mayo, Galway and Meath (and Dublin when they used to take part).
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 07, 2017, 08:46:50 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 07, 2017, 08:18:33 PM
Quote from: Sionnach on August 07, 2017, 07:03:41 PM
The Kerry Junior team is made up only of players who are not playing senior at club level, and it has provided an additional development pathway with several players such as Tadhg Morley and Anthony Maher graduating to the senior panel.
That's every club in Kerry they can pick from bar the 8 Senior teams.
Most of the teams in the competition can pick any player in the county bar anyone who has played with the county seniors this year or last.
The only counties the senior club thing applies to are Kerry, Cork, Mayo, Galway and Meath (and Dublin when they used to take part).
The fact that Dublin and Ulster counties (bar Cavan) don't take part in Junior waters that fact down.
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 08:49:41 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 07, 2017, 08:46:50 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 07, 2017, 08:18:33 PM
Quote from: Sionnach on August 07, 2017, 07:03:41 PM
The Kerry Junior team is made up only of players who are not playing senior at club level, and it has provided an additional development pathway with several players such as Tadhg Morley and Anthony Maher graduating to the senior panel.
That's every club in Kerry they can pick from bar the 8 Senior teams.
Most of the teams in the competition can pick any player in the county bar anyone who has played with the county seniors this year or last.
The only counties the senior club thing applies to are Kerry, Cork, Mayo, Galway and Meath (and Dublin when they used to take part).
The fact that Dublin and Ulster counties (bar Cavan) don't take part in Junior waters that fact down.
When they participated, Dublin also benefited from the junior championship from a development point of view. They won it in 2008 with the likes of Jonny Cooper, Denis Bastick, Eoghan O'Gara, Mick Fitzsimons and Darren Daly lining out. Dean Rock is another current senior player who came in via the juniors.
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 07, 2017, 08:46:50 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 07, 2017, 08:18:33 PM
Quote from: Sionnach on August 07, 2017, 07:03:41 PM
The Kerry Junior team is made up only of players who are not playing senior at club level, and it has provided an additional development pathway with several players such as Tadhg Morley and Anthony Maher graduating to the senior panel.
That's every club in Kerry they can pick from bar the 8 Senior teams.
Most of the teams in the competition can pick any player in the county bar anyone who has played with the county seniors this year or last.
The only counties the senior club thing applies to are Kerry, Cork, Mayo, Galway and Meath (and Dublin when they used to take part).
If it excluded the club teams that compete in the Kerry senior club championship, and not the Bishop Moynihan one with 8 clubs and all the regional sides, it would be a fairer setup.
As it stands it makes Kerry a stronger proposition than any of the other counties that don't pick from their senior championship clubs.
Quote from: PW Nally on August 08, 2017, 02:00:24 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 07, 2017, 08:46:50 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 07, 2017, 08:18:33 PM
Quote from: Sionnach on August 07, 2017, 07:03:41 PM
The Kerry Junior team is made up only of players who are not playing senior at club level, and it has provided an additional development pathway with several players such as Tadhg Morley and Anthony Maher graduating to the senior panel.
That's every club in Kerry they can pick from bar the 8 Senior teams.
It might suggest that Mayo should adopt a similar format for the club championship, not for the purpose of entering a stronger junior inter-county team but simply on the basis that imagining that we have 16 clubs of senior standard is proving near impossible to defend.
Most of the teams in the competition can pick any player in the county bar anyone who has played with the county seniors this year or last.
The only counties the senior club thing applies to are Kerry, Cork, Mayo, Galway and Meath (and Dublin when they used to take part).
If it excluded the club teams that compete in the Kerry senior club championship, and not the Bishop Moynihan one with 8 clubs and all the regional sides, it would be a fairer setup.
As it stands it makes Kerry a stronger proposition than any of the other counties that don't pick from their senior championship clubs.
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Quote from: PW Nally on August 08, 2017, 02:00:24 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 07, 2017, 08:46:50 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 07, 2017, 08:18:33 PM
Quote from: Sionnach on August 07, 2017, 07:03:41 PM
The Kerry Junior team is made up only of players who are not playing senior at club level, and it has provided an additional development pathway with several players such as Tadhg Morley and Anthony Maher graduating to the senior panel.
That's every club in Kerry they can pick from bar the 8 Senior teams.
Most of the teams in the competition can pick any player in the county bar anyone who has played with the county seniors this year or last.
The only counties the senior club thing applies to are Kerry, Cork, Mayo, Galway and Meath (and Dublin when they used to take part).
If it excluded the club teams that compete in the Kerry senior club championship, and not the Bishop Moynihan one with 8 clubs and all the regional sides, it would be a fairer setup.
As it stands it makes Kerry a stronger proposition than any of the other counties that don't pick from their senior championship clubs.
It might suggest that Mayo should adopt a similar format for the club championship, not for the purpose of entering a stronger junior inter-county team but simply on the basis that imagining that we have 16 clubs of senior standard is proving near impossible to defend.
There are way to many Senior teams in Mayo and not enough in the Junior grade! It's a snobbery thing!
Just looking at it if our Championship was the same layout as the Kerry Model. Intermediate and Junior Championship would be of a crazy standard.
Senior
Breaffy
Garrymore,
Castlebar Mitchels
Aghamore,
Kiltane
Knockmore
Ballintubber
Ballina Stephenites
Intermediate
Davitts
Ballyhaunis
Ballaghaderreen
Claremorris
Crossmolina Deel Rovers
Ballinrobe
Charlestown Sarsfields
Shrule/Glencorrib
Bohola Moy Davitts
Béal an Mhuirthead
Westport
Kiltimagh
Hollymount-Carramore
Burrishoole
The Neale
Parke/Keelogues/Crimlin
Junior
Mayo Gaels
Cill Chomáin
Swinford
Tuar Mhic Éadaigh
Castlebar Mitchels B
Bonniconlon
Kilmaine
Islandeady
Ardagh
Ballintubber B
Killala
Crossmolina Deel Rovers B
Achill
Louisburgh
Ardnaree Sarsfields
Ballina Stephenites B
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 07, 2017, 08:49:41 PM
Quote from: twohands!!! on August 07, 2017, 08:46:50 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 07, 2017, 08:18:33 PM
Quote from: Sionnach on August 07, 2017, 07:03:41 PM
The Kerry Junior team is made up only of players who are not playing senior at club level, and it has provided an additional development pathway with several players such as Tadhg Morley and Anthony Maher graduating to the senior panel.
That's every club in Kerry they can pick from bar the 8 Senior teams.
Most of the teams in the competition can pick any player in the county bar anyone who has played with the county seniors this year or last.
The only counties the senior club thing applies to are Kerry, Cork, Mayo, Galway and Meath (and Dublin when they used to take part).
The fact that Dublin and Ulster counties (bar Cavan) don't take part in Junior waters that fact down.
Cavan didn't enter this year. Well they entered but conceded the game which is sort of the same.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 08, 2017, 08:23:57 PM
Just looking at it if our Championship was the same layout as the Kerry Model. Intermediate and Junior Championship would be of a crazy standard.
Senior
Breaffy
Garrymore,
Castlebar Mitchels
Aghamore,
Kiltane
Knockmore
Ballintubber
Ballina Stephenites
Intermediate
Davitts
Ballyhaunis
Ballaghaderreen
Claremorris
Crossmolina Deel Rovers
Ballinrobe
Charlestown Sarsfields
Shrule/Glencorrib
Bohola Moy Davitts
Béal an Mhuirthead
Westport
Kiltimagh
Hollymount-Carramore
Burrishoole
The Neale
Parke/Keelogues/Crimlin
Junior
Mayo Gaels
Cill Chomáin
Swinford
Tuar Mhic Éadaigh
Castlebar Mitchels B
Bonniconlon
Kilmaine
Islandeady
Ardagh
Ballintubber B
Killala
Crossmolina Deel Rovers B
Achill
Louisburgh
Ardnaree Sarsfields
Ballina Stephenites B
Can we play?
Sorry How could I have forgotten our near neighbours up the road. :P
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 08, 2017, 08:23:57 PM
Just looking at it if our Championship was the same layout as the Kerry Model. Intermediate and Junior Championship would be of a crazy standard.
Senior
Breaffy
Garrymore,
Castlebar Mitchels
Aghamore,
Kiltane
Knockmore
Ballintubber
Ballina Stephenites
Intermediate
Davitts
Ballyhaunis
Ballaghaderreen
Claremorris
Crossmolina Deel Rovers
Ballinrobe
Charlestown Sarsfields
Shrule/Glencorrib
Bohola Moy Davitts
Béal an Mhuirthead
Westport
Kiltimagh
Hollymount-Carramore
Burrishoole
The Neale
Parke/Keelogues/Crimlin
Junior
Mayo Gaels
Cill Chomáin
Swinford
Tuar Mhic Éadaigh
Castlebar Mitchels B
Bonniconlon
Kilmaine
Islandeady
Ardagh
Ballintubber B
Killala
Crossmolina Deel Rovers B
Achill
Louisburgh
Ardnaree Sarsfields
Ballina Stephenites B
While I might disagree about the make up of the top 8 clubs, does it not give a more realistic picture of where clubs are at. You could have eight or more regional teams which would allow players from small rural and urban clubs show what they can do with good support and good opposition.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 08, 2017, 08:23:57 PM
Just looking at it if our Championship was the same layout as the Kerry Model. Intermediate and Junior Championship would be of a crazy standard.
If Mayo had any sense they would adopt this structure immediately.
You would have more competitive games, which ultimately is what improves players, instead of the current system with the groups, where you often have mismatches or dead-rubbers.
Both the Meath and Cork senior county championship could do with relegating a chunk of teams from the senior championship from what I've seen of them as well.
Quote from: mrhardyannual on August 09, 2017, 04:06:14 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 08, 2017, 08:23:57 PM
Just looking at it if our Championship was the same layout as the Kerry Model. Intermediate and Junior Championship would be of a crazy standard.
Senior
Breaffy
Garrymore,
Castlebar Mitchels
Aghamore,
Kiltane
Knockmore
Ballintubber
Ballina Stephenites
Intermediate
Davitts
Ballyhaunis
Ballaghaderreen
Claremorris
Crossmolina Deel Rovers
Ballinrobe
Charlestown Sarsfields
Shrule/Glencorrib
Bohola Moy Davitts
Béal an Mhuirthead
Westport
Kiltimagh
Hollymount-Carramore
Burrishoole
The Neale
Parke/Keelogues/Crimlin
Junior
Mayo Gaels
Cill Chomáin
Swinford
Tuar Mhic Éadaigh
Castlebar Mitchels B
Bonniconlon
Kilmaine
Islandeady
Ardagh
Ballintubber B
Killala
Crossmolina Deel Rovers B
Achill
Louisburgh
Ardnaree Sarsfields
Ballina Stephenites B
While I might disagree about the make up of the top 8 clubs, does it not give a more realistic picture of where clubs are at. You could have eight or more regional teams which would allow players from small rural and urban clubs show what they can do with good support and good opposition.
We had four divisional teams in it around 8-9 (?) years ago and they never did any good - not sure if that was lack of interest / organisation / tradition or whatever but they were definitely an easy touch
I'd imagine divisional/amalgamation sides would need a good while to bed into the consciousness and gain their own identity. Too often it feels like a 'thrown together' team and they don't have any real affinity for each other.
In Kerry that sense of place is helped by Geography. Especially in places like South and West Kerry, which are on peninsulas and have one main town where people congregate for socialising etc. There is definitely a sense of identity in South Kerry, and that helps them when they come together.
I think in Tipperary the divisional championships and the fact that most people would have played with North Tipperary at divisional level, it could probably work there too.
In Offaly, I'm less sure. There's a nominal 'North' and 'South' Offaly, but there's no real identity with either. North Offaly is primarily football, South Offaly hurling, but Ferbane is more football, and would be technically south Offaly. Although they seem to be calling it West Offaly now to differentiate from the hurlers :)
An article here on Michael Fitzsimmons and how he feels being part of the Dublin junior team that won in 2008 was helpful in terms of his development.
Also has the stat that 4 of the team that won in 2008 featured in the game against Monaghan and a 5th Bastic is still part of the squad.
I do think that Dublin pulling out of the Junior competition is one of the few missteps the County Board has made in relation to football development in the last while.
http://www.the42.ie/michael-fitzsimons-dublin-2-3535450-Aug2017/