Ulster Senior football championship 2024

[Tones]

Blaine let in two goals in a dead rubber game, until then 6 clean sheets including a penalty save, very savvy with his kickouts, done very well when he roamed out and about albeit he doesn't do a Lynch, Beggan, Morgan or Rafferty but maybe that's how pundits judge keepers now.

[armaghniac]

Blaine let in two goals in a dead rubber game, until then 6 clean sheets including a penalty save, very savvy with his kickouts, done very well when he roamed out and about albeit he doesn't do a Lynch, Beggan, Morgan or Rafferty but maybe that's how pundits judge keepers now.

The term "let in" is not appropriate, he had little chance to stop those, the first one in particular as the back passed the ball to a Cork forward.

[Ethan Tremblay]

To me Tyrone look like a team with no thought out plans/structure, talent alone gets them through some games, that's why they blow so hot & cold imo. Could take Derry on a hot day and get embarrassed on a bad day whereas Donegal & Armagh will keep it tight v Derry through defensive structures. I'm fed up with Armagh's style of play tho, so I'm not advocating it.

Very true. Having Canavan in the form he's been gives them an edge. If he can maintain that and Donnelly, McCurry, Canavan Jr, Meyler can come back to some sort of form then they've got a chance against most.
I agree my own personal opinion is that they are being hamstrung by the management with a lack of system/ plan.

Tyrone have been inconsistent for a while in my opinion (always refer to them as a jekyll and hyde team) and Canavan has been dragging them over the line in some games.  If they can get a few players into form to take the burden from him, then of course they could be a danger, but I honestly cannot see that happening this year for them. 

Armagh/Fermagh will lack any entertainment in my eyes, for the most part anyway.  As mentioned before, if Armagh manage to get a few points lead, Fermanagh will have to chase them and open themselves up, which might lead to a game of football.  I would expect Armagh to win of course, but not a great one for the neutral. 

[Tones]

Blaine let in two goals in a dead rubber game, until then 6 clean sheets including a penalty save, very savvy with his kickouts, done very well when he roamed out and about albeit he doesn't do a Lynch, Beggan, Morgan or Rafferty but maybe that's how pundits judge keepers now.

The term "let in" is not appropriate, he had little chance to stop those, the first one in particular as the back passed the ball to a Cork forward.

Apologies bad terminology on my behalf.

[tonto1888]

Blaine let in two goals in a dead rubber game, until then 6 clean sheets including a penalty save, very savvy with his kickouts, done very well when he roamed out and about albeit he doesn't do a Lynch, Beggan, Morgan or Rafferty but maybe that's how pundits judge keepers now.

The term "let in" is not appropriate, he had little chance to stop those, the first one in particular as the back passed the ball to a Cork forward.

its a term that is generally used. Nobody actually thinks he just let them in ffs

[armaghniac]

Blaine let in two goals in a dead rubber game, until then 6 clean sheets including a penalty save, very savvy with his kickouts, done very well when he roamed out and about albeit he doesn't do a Lynch, Beggan, Morgan or Rafferty but maybe that's how pundits judge keepers now.

The term "let in" is not appropriate, he had little chance to stop those, the first one in particular as the back passed the ball to a Cork forward.

its a term that is generally used. Nobody actually thinks he just let them in ffs

You can't measure a goalkeeper entirely by the goals scored, the Kildare goalie denied Armagh several chances although we also scored a couple he wasn't the reason.

[Tones]

Stopping goals is a fundamental aspect to goal keeping, you not agree?

[JoG2]

Stopping goals is a fundamental aspect to goal keeping, you not agree?

It's a part yes, but, with the speed of players bursting through on goal, kicking a heavier ball from the hands, off the ground, drop kick, able to fist the ball in from a few yards out, keepers saving is almost a bonus. Angles can be covered etc a la soccer, but it's, literally a different ball game. Add in being a link player and the kick outs, it's much more than the ability to stop a ball going into the net 

[armaghniac]

Stopping goals is a fundamental aspect to goal keeping, you not agree?

Yes, of course. However, a goalie that is subjected to 10 shots and saves 8 is not necessarily a worse goalkeeper than one that has 3 shots and saves all three.

[Milltown Row2]

It'll soon be the keepers will be picking up the keepers to nullify their input 

[Tones]

Stopping goals is a fundamental aspect to goal keeping, you not agree?

It's a part yes, but, with the speed of players bursting through on goal, kicking a heavier ball from the hands, off the ground, drop kick, able to fist the ball in from a few yards out, keepers saving is almost a bonus. Angles can be covered etc a la soccer, but it's, literally a different ball game. Add in being a link player and the kick outs, it's much more than the ability to stop a ball going into the net 

But the ability to stop the ball going into the net is a huge factor in someone being put in that position, anyways this is diverging from the thread topic and probably a bore to those coming in for championship chat, my remark about Morgan was a flippant remark as to what Tyrone have to offer, albeit I do think he was not the keeper of the league, but suppose for another thread.

[Orior]

It'll soon be the keepers will be picking up the keepers to nullify their input 

Stop giving junior team managers tips.

[Brendan]

It'll soon be the keepers will be picking up the keepers to nullify their input 

Stop giving junior team managers tips.

Some junior keepers won't be able to run the length of the pitch to pick their opposite number up anyway

[Armagh18]

It's a tight Championship and always is.

Only 2 of the big 3 of Derry, Donegal and Armagh are going to make the Ulster final.

Not even a good wind up that.

There'll be a kick in Tyrone yet and Cavan will fear no one with the way they played at the weekend.

what exactly have tyrone shown for you to day there will be a kick from them

Canavan and McCurry are top top forwards. Plus the fact the huers beat us twice last year.

I'd seen nothing to suggest Cavan would beat Monaghan based on the league.

[clonian]

Stopping goals is a fundamental aspect to goal keeping, you not agree?

It's a part yes, but, with the speed of players bursting through on goal, kicking a heavier ball from the hands, off the ground, drop kick, able to fist the ball in from a few yards out, keepers saving is almost a bonus. Angles can be covered etc a la soccer, but it's, literally a different ball game. Add in being a link player and the kick outs, it's much more than the ability to stop a ball going into the net 

But the ability to stop the ball going into the net is a huge factor in someone being put in that position, anyways this is diverging from the thread topic and probably a bore to those coming in for championship chat, my remark about Morgan was a flippant remark as to what Tyrone have to offer, albeit I do think he was not the keeper of the league, but suppose for another thread.

The advantage Morgan and Cluxton have over the other names mentioned is when there's a save to be made they'll make it. As good a footballer as Morgan is, he's also a great keeper, gaa and soccer. Too many times there's soft goals conceded with the man in the nr 1 jersey turning his arse to a shot instead of standing up to make the save. Lynch has improved the goalkeeping part of his game a lot over the last 3 seasons.