Gaelic Football RIP

Started by High Fielder, July 21, 2018, 06:37:09 PM

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TheGreatest

Quote from: From the Bunker on August 16, 2018, 10:48:07 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on August 16, 2018, 10:36:15 AM
Taken form another board.

Interesting stat from Colm keys in indo today.

Limerick around 2006 had only 8% of primary kids involved in playing GAA sports, after then starting 5 year plan, this jumped to 57% in 2011...now paying dividends.

"They were the only county in my nine years on CCC2 (Dublin) that were in contact with us to ask us what we were doing and to get some advice. On the contrary we had clubs from Meath, Wicklow and Kildare trying to enter our under age club competitions because their set ups were cat. Well done Limerick.

Did not see anything in the article about what you mentioned?

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/how-success-of-munster-rugby-saved-limerick-hurling-37217211.html

The first part is from the article, the contact to Dublin part is from the board.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Rossfan on August 16, 2018, 10:55:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2018, 09:26:33 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 16, 2018, 09:16:49 AM
Kilkenny hasn't 1.3m population.
I think hey've the smallest population of the 9 main hurling Counties.

And? So its just a numbers game? The county with the biggest numbers wins? Kerry have 37, 10 more than Dublin

Kilkenny won 11 from the year 2000

Dublin have won 5 in that same time period
So Leitrim just need to work harder and they'll win a scatter if AIs? ?
Anyway what about Antrim with 200k Nationalist population and a Traditional hurling area.

200k nationalist population, so cut that in half (women) then put in the different sports that people play, soccer, drinking and chasing women.. As for hurling we are at the right level, good competitive games aginst teams of the same level..

Football christ knows, we havent been competitive (bar one year) since the 50's there's a whole thread on it on the Antrim section if you care to read.. But this isnt about Antrim our Leitrim or even you're own county, its about people getting worked up over Dublin winning 5 titles since 2000
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

From the Bunker

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2018, 11:30:10 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 16, 2018, 10:55:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2018, 09:26:33 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 16, 2018, 09:16:49 AM
Kilkenny hasn't 1.3m population.
I think hey've the smallest population of the 9 main hurling Counties.

And? So its just a numbers game? The county with the biggest numbers wins? Kerry have 37, 10 more than Dublin

Kilkenny won 11 from the year 2000

Dublin have won 5 in that same time period
So Leitrim just need to work harder and they'll win a scatter if AIs? ?
Anyway what about Antrim with 200k Nationalist population and a Traditional hurling area.

200k nationalist population, so cut that in half (women) then put in the different sports that people play, soccer, drinking and chasing women.. As for hurling we are at the right level, good competitive games aginst teams of the same level..

Football christ knows, we havent been competitive (bar one year) since the 50's there's a whole thread on it on the Antrim section if you care to read.. But this isnt about Antrim our Leitrim or even you're own county, its about people getting worked up over Dublin winning 5 titles since 2000

They have won 8 Leinster, 5 (and more likely 6 this year) All Irelands and 5 League titles since 2011.

High Fielder

I have to say I bear no ill feeling towards the Dubs. I just don't believe Laois have any business being on the same pitch as them. Some will say that's defeatist, unambitious and disloyal, but I think it's realistic. There is way too much romantic ideaology floating around in the GAA about the endless possibilities of smaller counties one day getting their hands on All Ireland. Could you be bothered flogging a dead horse that long? Rip it up and start again because the imbalances that exist make inter county football and hurling flawed

Milltown Row2

Quote from: From the Bunker on August 16, 2018, 11:37:06 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2018, 11:30:10 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 16, 2018, 10:55:27 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2018, 09:26:33 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 16, 2018, 09:16:49 AM
Kilkenny hasn't 1.3m population.
I think hey've the smallest population of the 9 main hurling Counties.

And? So its just a numbers game? The county with the biggest numbers wins? Kerry have 37, 10 more than Dublin

Kilkenny won 11 from the year 2000

Dublin have won 5 in that same time period
So Leitrim just need to work harder and they'll win a scatter if AIs? ?
Anyway what about Antrim with 200k Nationalist population and a Traditional hurling area.

200k nationalist population, so cut that in half (women) then put in the different sports that people play, soccer, drinking and chasing women.. As for hurling we are at the right level, good competitive games aginst teams of the same level..

Football christ knows, we havent been competitive (bar one year) since the 50's there's a whole thread on it on the Antrim section if you care to read.. But this isnt about Antrim our Leitrim or even you're own county, its about people getting worked up over Dublin winning 5 titles since 2000

They have won 8 Leinster, 5 (and more likely 6 this year) All Irelands and 5 League titles since 2011.

And Kilkenny had the same during period of dominance, no one called for splitting Kilkenny in half, changing the rules or saying their players were full time professionals!
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

trailer

Antrim should be more competitive. The reason they are not, is down to the administration within the county. Not Money, Not Croke Park, Not Soccer, Not Protestants. The reason lies firmly within the County board. 

RedHand88

Quote from: trailer on August 16, 2018, 12:25:42 PM
Antrim should be more competitive. The reason they are not, is down to the administration within the county. Not Money, Not Croke Park, Not Soccer, Not Protestants. The reason lies firmly within the County board.

Young lads in Belfast are more interested in boxing and soccer than playing Gaelic football. Nothing wrong with that of course, but therein lies the problem with Antrim GAA. Those that do stick with the GAA enter into a country v county dynamic on the county team.

trailer

Quote from: RedHand88 on August 16, 2018, 12:58:19 PM
Quote from: trailer on August 16, 2018, 12:25:42 PM
Antrim should be more competitive. The reason they are not, is down to the administration within the county. Not Money, Not Croke Park, Not Soccer, Not Protestants. The reason lies firmly within the County board.

Young lads in Belfast are more interested in boxing and soccer than playing Gaelic football. Nothing wrong with that of course, but therein lies the problem with Antrim GAA. Those that do stick with the GAA enter into a country v county dynamic on the county team.

Yeah that's fine. My point is more that throwing huge sums of money at the problem won't fix it without a proper strategic plan. There is no quick fix.

Rossfan

If you have c 100k Nationalist Population in Belfast ( Antrim CB parts) you should be looking at 3,000 registered GAA playing members if you have the same percentage as Dublin.
Anyone know the figure or an educated guess.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

RedHand88

Quote from: Rossfan on August 16, 2018, 01:10:50 PM
If you have c 100k Nationalist Population in Belfast ( Antrim CB parts) you should be looking at 3,000 registered GAA playing members if you have the same percentage as Dublin.
Anyone know the figure or an educated guess.

Don't know about registered players but with regards the nationalist population in Antrim part of belfast is closer to 150k I would say.

Jinxy

http://www.punditarena.com/gaa/hurling/smcmahon/unforgettable-summer-hurling-backed-tv-viewing-figures/

'The increased popularity and the ability to capture the imagination of the Irish sporting public was reflected in the combined attendance of the hurling semi-finals being greater than that of the football semi-finals which were held last weekend.

This also holds true for TV viewership figures. For matches broadcast by RTÉ in both football and hurling which reached over 300,000 viewers – 10 of them came from hurling games while only five came from football games, according to figures released by RTÉ to Sport For Business.'
If you were any use you'd be playing.

From the Bunker

Quote from: TheGreatest on August 16, 2018, 11:29:33 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 16, 2018, 10:48:07 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on August 16, 2018, 10:36:15 AM
Taken form another board.

Interesting stat from Colm keys in indo today.

Limerick around 2006 had only 8% of primary kids involved in playing GAA sports, after then starting 5 year plan, this jumped to 57% in 2011...now paying dividends.

"They were the only county in my nine years on CCC2 (Dublin) that were in contact with us to ask us what we were doing and to get some advice. On the contrary we had clubs from Meath, Wicklow and Kildare trying to enter our under age club competitions because their set ups were cat. Well done Limerick.

Did not see anything in the article about what you mentioned?

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/how-success-of-munster-rugby-saved-limerick-hurling-37217211.html

The first part is from the article, the contact to Dublin part is from the board.

You are throwing up a  unreferenced quote from another Board as Bible? Why was it not mentioned in the original article?

markl121

Belfast has the country v county problem for sure. But also some ridiculous stuff from the county board like that carry on a few years ago where the st galls lads had a hurling game the day before the antrim football so they were all dropped for the antrim game, after travelling to the match. Any wonder lads are put off.

yellowcard

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/alan-brogan-in-2005-dublin-and-tyrone-tried-to-score-with-every-play-in-2018-it-has-become-a-different-sport-37225574.html

Good article by Alan Brogan on how the game has changed in a decade. The youtube video of the game he refers to is worth looking at and the contrast in playing style and most notably how muted crowds have become at matches. There is very little ebb and flow to gaelic football anymore, just plenty of crowd conversation as the ball is filtered sideways in possession for long spells. The atmosphere then at the big matches was more akin to hurling now which has maintained is excitement levels.   

Jinxy

If you were any use you'd be playing.