Money, Dublin and the GAA

[delgany]

The very worst case scenario re insurance would be if one of the 9 got injured they wouldn't be covered. Absolutely no impact on Innisfails insurance cover generally.

Ignoring Covid for a sec (and I'm sure someone from Innisfails knew about it), but do you need formal permission to train on a GAA pitch? In the past I often organised early morning or late summer evening sessions when I knew there'd be plenty of room at my local GAA club,  with a 5 or 6 kids (son, nephew, friends) and a bag of balls - usually just fun stuff like scoring practice. Never once sought permission.

I don't agree about the impact in Innisfails insurance.
You 100% need formal permission to train on a GAA pitch.
If anything happened at any of the sessions you organised you would be personally liable.
I remember hearing that the GAA basically is forced to punish individuals who are caught in order to keep their insurance.
The vast vast majority of the time a blind eye is turned to this but given the publicity and the nature of insurance companies I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see Innisfails in bother over this.

County teams have separate insurance cover for Player Injury Fund. It wouldnt relate to the Innisfaills club cover in any way.

You wouldnt be covered for personal injury , if you had an accident on a club ground, if you did not have permission to be there or if you were not a member of that club. Must clubs have a ' no responsibility.... ' sign up !

[Armagh18]

Imagine being that sad as to photograph lads out training- journalists are as low as politicians- scum.

[Lar Naparka]

The very worst case scenario re insurance would be if one of the 9 got injured they wouldn't be covered. Absolutely no impact on Innisfails insurance cover generally.

Ignoring Covid for a sec (and I'm sure someone from Innisfails knew about it), but do you need formal permission to train on a GAA pitch? In the past I often organised early morning or late summer evening sessions when I knew there'd be plenty of room at my local GAA club,  with a 5 or 6 kids (son, nephew, friends) and a bag of balls - usually just fun stuff like scoring practice. Never once sought permission.

I've no intention of getting involved in this row but there's a big difference letting a few kids have a kickabout and the county board and Innisfails deliberately flouting an official GAA directive.
Other clubs and counties may be doing the same thing but that's irrelevant .

[macker15]

Folks - some teams at club and county level have been trading as groups and full sessions for 3 months. The training has taken place all over Ireland at GAA facilities so don't all of a sudden act shocked that this has happened. Some teams have been having full sessions during the day because a lage number of their panelists are students or furloughed / working from home and it meant that they did not have to switch on floodlights that would attract attention. My only issue will be the hypocrisy that will be shown to a club/club player later in the upcoming season  when a "rule" will be broken when they have allowed the flagrant flouting of the "Covid no training rule".

Every county is at in some form of training in groups. The jackeens were the fools to get caught.

[macker15]

Think CB should have told Tony in private or have the sheep broken in again

https://mobile.twitter.com/RoscommonGAA/status/1377604485095247878

[Lar Naparka]

I would also like to point out, the point i have made here numerous times is proved to be true, Dubs train in Innisfails, a slanty pitch with below standard changing rooms and facilities etc, Not the Taj Mahal centre of excellences which other counties have use of, which is of extreme detriment to Dublin compared to the advantages that other counties have over them.

Ah, c'mon, will ya get up the yard, will ya?
What's the slanty pitch or the likes got to do with it?
And what does the Taj Mahals that other counties have mean either?

[Tubberman]

Think CB should have told Tony in private or have the sheep broken in again

https://mobile.twitter.com/RoscommonGAA/status/1377604485095247878

If it was the Roscommon footballers that had been on the pitch, the CB would hardly send out a tweet about it for all the world to see they were breaking the rules!
Not even the Rossies are that stupid.

[Louther]

This here isn't just about a group of lads having a kick about early morning and breaking covid rules albeit with no harm done. And I doubt this was the first time or that other venues for other panel members where in use. I'd say Dublin and GAA crapping it if follow up pictures emerge.

And if it's ( and I know it is ) going on elsewhere, it's the risk they taking but bar a club in Cork nothing has made national headlines yet. They either doing on lowdown or run a tighter ship.

But days after a date been given for return to play, the most high profile team in Ireland is on front pages of national paper. That is serious bad spin. It gives the GAA very shaky legs to be standing on looking for finishing u17 competitions, starting U20s and finishing club championships. This is what's going to hurt everyone and not just the coach who will take the token one for the team. Will gates on fields be padlocked now in coming weeks? Will any rise in cases push out the return to play or train dates for u18s?

If senior county teams can't do what they asked, how will the hundreds of clubs round the country do it? They've put everyone in the firing line. Can laugh it off and take the whataboutery route but the fear is that everyone else going to take the brunt of it.

If the lads wanted a kick about it whatever, run away and join everyone else in parks and pitches at it. But the structured nature of this won't wash well.

[sid waddell]

Folks - some teams at club and county level have been trading as groups and full sessions for 3 months. The training has taken place all over Ireland at GAA facilities so don't all of a sudden act shocked that this has happened. Some teams have been having full sessions during the day because a lage number of their panelists are students or furloughed / working from home and it meant that they did not have to switch on floodlights that would attract attention. My only issue will be the hypocrisy that will be shown to a club/club player later in the upcoming season  when a "rule" will be broken when they have allowed the flagrant flouting of the "Covid no training rule".

You've just made a pretty good case for there being no GAA at all this year

The GAA is the most influential civil society organisation in the country and its conduct and the conduct of its teams influences how people behave

If the GAA and GAA teams are cocking a snook at the rules, and I've not reason to believe anything you say above is untrue, the right response would be to scrap all competitions in 2021 altogether

[Captain Obvious]

This story about Dublin caught out training is a storm in a tea cup. Outdoor activities is as low risk as you can get. The month of March should have been used for inter County training with the leagues played in April.

That would have given us May, June, July and August to play club or Inter County championships.

[sid waddell]

This story about Dublin caught out training is a storm in a tea cup. Outdoor activities is as low risk as you can get. The month of March should have been used for inter County training with the leagues played in April.

That would have given us June, July and August to play club or Inter County championships.

That isn't the issue

The issue is the rule breaking - public safety during Covid is made up of many millions of individual decisions - and example is everything - and it seems that in the GAA, the rule breaking as regards Covid is an epidemic in itself

This means that the GAA has in effect become a rogue organisation promoting the breaking of restrictions which are there for public safety in a pandemic, and that is a very serious situation

Last week there was widespread anger at what happened at the Beacon hospital

There was widespread anger at Golfgate and the Storey funeral

Why not here?

Why shouldn't there be accountability here?

This is as much an example of the elite believing the rules don't apply to them as Beacongate, Golfgate and Storeygate

Why shouldn't there be a serious reckoning for the GAA over this given that the GAA as an organisation is taking the piss and acting against public safety?

Already this evening we've had Tomas O'Se on RTE plámásing over this

Ah, shure yerra, the lads all come from good families

[Rossfan]

Rule no 1 in the GAA - "How do we get around this"
Rule no 2 "Don't get caught"

[sid waddell]

https://www.dublingaa.ie/news/dublin-gaa-statement-on-behalf-of-management-committee

Dublin GAA acknowledge that, following an investigation this afternoon, there was a breach of Covid-19 guidelines yesterday morning.

The County Management Committee have suspended Dublin Senior Football manager Dessie Farrell for 12 weeks with immediate effect.

The Dublin senior football management and players recognise that this was a serious error of judgement and apologise unreservedly for their actions.

Dublin GAA Management Committee

[Tubberman]

https://www.dublingaa.ie/news/dublin-gaa-statement-on-behalf-of-management-committee

Dublin GAA acknowledge that, following an investigation this afternoon, there was a breach of Covid-19 guidelines yesterday morning.

The County Management Committee have suspended Dublin Senior Football manager Dessie Farrell for 12 weeks with immediate effect.

The Dublin senior football management and players recognise that this was a serious error of judgement and apologise unreservedly for their actions.

Dublin GAA Management Committee

John Costello has some neck on him!

[Baile Brigín 2]

Other counties is whataboutery. Dublin got caught. End of.

Unfortunately this feeds into the saga of last year where for right or wrong the GAA was perceived as not taking Covid seriously. We aren't even back yet and rules are broken. Fine and bans is fair and just.

Not saying the lads were right or wrong.

Indo rag Honey trap with a long lens. They knew what they were doing, wont see them in other counties hiding in the bushes.

Other counties aren't across the road to Indo Towers and don't sell newspapers.

And you don't know what honey trap is.

Oh yes i do, just asked my Russian friend there whos "working " in the states.

You made my point, it was a set up, probably going on for weeks, probably held for weeks by the Indo.

My frontpage headlines would be today: Garda investigation into stolen Beacon Vaccines. 4 Former health ministers to be quizzed on secret illegal HSE dossiers on Sick children. Opposition silenced in Dail row over microphones, etc. GAAboard jump on yet another Dubs pile due to begrudgery and insignificance. 

I have seen 100s of Covid rule breaking, i see full blown 5 a sides, cricket matches in parks, Groups of cyclists etc. i see playgrounds packed with children and parents standing around talking. Go around the parks in Dublin. Canals packed with people, Guards just walking past. Its like the Funeral row in the north, he went to that funeral over there, but that guy over there went to that other funeral down the road....

Yes, Dublin Footballers were wrong legally, i think the morals have gone now. Especially when League or Ireland is back and ladies league of ireland is back, bit of a joke.

A distraction from this disastrous governments handling a covid and a lot of other things. Dubs should boycott the indo from now on. Its a petty article, like the Guard haircut articles in the Examiner the other day.

For this to have been a honey trap the Indo would have needed to organise the training and hoodwink the players into attending. Is that your claim?