Tyrone Club Football and Hurling

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toby47

Quote from: square_ball on November 30, 2023, 10:03:46 PM
Quote from: clarshack on November 30, 2023, 09:55:18 PM
Quote from: BIGONE on November 30, 2023, 04:23:40 PMI see Coalisland advertising for Expressions of Interest as well.

Coalisland for me would be better off going internal. Would some of their older players coming to the end of their playing days not be interested in a player/manager role?

Surely it's time for Thornton to take that job on? Though not sure if their prospects are any better next year especially if Tiernan Quinn is now on the county squad and missing started games. He pulled them out of some holes last season.

He's tied up with Magherafelt

redzone

Richard Thornton has already managed Coaisland.
What's the view in Kildress on Tracey driving up the road to manage Cookstown and his own club are without a manager.
Another strange one is Moortown paying James Conway with Chris Lawn helping out. Surely Lawn could take it on his own

smort

Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 11:04:57 AMRichard Thornton has already managed Coaisland.
What's the view in Kildress on Tracey driving up the road to manage Cookstown and his own club are without a manager.
Another strange one is Moortown paying James Conway with Chris Lawn helping out. Surely Lawn could take it on his own

Sure he's only over the road, mileage wouldn't be much    ;)

intheknowhow

Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 11:04:57 AMRichard Thornton has already managed Coaisland.
What's the view in Kildress on Tracey driving up the road to manage Cookstown and his own club are without a manager.
Another strange one is Moortown paying James Conway with Chris Lawn helping out. Surely Lawn could take it on his own

Have you tried to manage and coach a team? Too much time

redzone

Quote from: intheknowhow on December 01, 2023, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 11:04:57 AMRichard Thornton has already managed Coaisland.
What's the view in Kildress on Tracey driving up the road to manage Cookstown and his own club are without a manager.
Another strange one is Moortown paying James Conway with Chris Lawn helping out. Surely Lawn could take it on his own

Have you tried to manage and coach a team? Too much time
Go on tell me what extra James Conway will be doing compared to Chris Lawn

intheknowhow

Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 01:12:02 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on December 01, 2023, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 11:04:57 AMRichard Thornton has already managed Coaisland.
What's the view in Kildress on Tracey driving up the road to manage Cookstown and his own club are without a manager.
Another strange one is Moortown paying James Conway with Chris Lawn helping out. Surely Lawn could take it on his own

Have you tried to manage and coach a team? Too much time
Go on tell me what extra James Conway will be doing compared to Chris Lawn

You need 2 men, a coach and manager. Can't have same man setting up training then talking to players etc. the role can be shared or separate

redzone

Quote from: intheknowhow on December 01, 2023, 02:10:35 PM
Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 01:12:02 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on December 01, 2023, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 11:04:57 AMRichard Thornton has already managed Coaisland.
What's the view in Kildress on Tracey driving up the road to manage Cookstown and his own club are without a manager.
Another strange one is Moortown paying James Conway with Chris Lawn helping out. Surely Lawn could take it on his own

Have you tried to manage and coach a team? Too much time
Go on tell me what extra James Conway will be doing compared to Chris Lawn

You need 2 men, a coach and manager. Can't have same man setting up training then talking to players etc. the role can be shared or separate
So you can't have the same man setting up training,taking the drills then talking to players. Don't think you know what your talking about.
Maybe someone who hasn't a clue might need help. Say Rafferty of Dungannon who got Holmes in to take the training.But Chris Lawn should be on his own with help from a coaches from inside the club. It's intermediate not a county team setup we are talking about.   

intheknowhow

Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 04:57:49 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on December 01, 2023, 02:10:35 PM
Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 01:12:02 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on December 01, 2023, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 11:04:57 AMRichard Thornton has already managed Coaisland.
What's the view in Kildress on Tracey driving up the road to manage Cookstown and his own club are without a manager.
Another strange one is Moortown paying James Conway with Chris Lawn helping out. Surely Lawn could take it on his own

Have you tried to manage and coach a team? Too much time
Go on tell me what extra James Conway will be doing compared to Chris Lawn

You need 2 men, a coach and manager. Can't have same man setting up training then talking to players etc. the role can be shared or separate
So you can't have the same man setting up training,taking the drills then talking to players. Don't think you know what your talking about.
Maybe someone who hasn't a clue might need help. Say Rafferty of Dungannon who got Holmes in to take the training.But Chris Lawn should be on his own with help from a coaches from inside the club. It's intermediate not a county team setup we are talking about.   

You get what you put in... you make it seem so easy... setting up a few cones.,. Few laps,of the field and some drills en

square_ball

Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 11:04:57 AMRichard Thornton has already managed Coaisland.

Yeah it was a long time ago and was his first go at management. He's learned his trade since and is a much better coach/manager now. I'm just surprised the Fianna wouldn't be knocking on his door looking to get him back involved. His own club be more in need of him that Magherafelt.

Mikhailov

Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 04:57:49 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on December 01, 2023, 02:10:35 PM
Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 01:12:02 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on December 01, 2023, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 11:04:57 AMRichard Thornton has already managed Coaisland.
What's the view in Kildress on Tracey driving up the road to manage Cookstown and his own club are without a manager.
Another strange one is Moortown paying James Conway with Chris Lawn helping out. Surely Lawn could take it on his own

Have you tried to manage and coach a team? Too much time
Go on tell me what extra James Conway will be doing compared to Chris Lawn

You need 2 men, a coach and manager. Can't have same man setting up training then talking to players etc. the role can be shared or separate
So you can't have the same man setting up training,taking the drills then talking to players. Don't think you know what your talking about.
Maybe someone who hasn't a clue might need help. Say Rafferty of Dungannon who got Holmes in to take the training.But Chris Lawn should be on his own with help from a coaches from inside the club. It's intermediate not a county team setup we are talking about.   

How do you explain Jody Gormley & Peter McGinnity then or Horse & McKaigue or Ricey & McIver. How are they different to the Moortown set up?

redzone

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Quote from: Mikhailov on December 01, 2023, 07:55:16 PM
Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 04:57:49 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on December 01, 2023, 02:10:35 PM
Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 01:12:02 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on December 01, 2023, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 11:04:57 AMRichard Thornton has already managed Coaisland.
What's the view in Kildress on Tracey driving up the road to manage Cookstown and his own club are without a manager.
Another strange one is Moortown paying James Conway with Chris Lawn helping out. Surely Lawn could take it on his own

Have you tried to manage and coach a team? Too much time
Go on tell me what extra James Conway will be doing compared to Chris Lawn

You need 2 men, a coach and manager. Can't have same man setting up training then talking to players etc. the role can be shared or separate
So you can't have the same man setting up training,taking the drills then talking to players. Don't think you know what your talking about.
Maybe someone who hasn't a clue might need help. Say Rafferty of Dungannon who got Holmes in to take the training.But Chris Lawn should be on his own with help from a coaches from inside the club. It's intermediate not a county team setup we are talking about.   

How do you explain Jody Gormley & Peter McGinnity then or Horse & McKaigue or Ricey & McIver. How are they different to the Moortown set up?
Big difference is Ricey needed McIver has he was away with cavan. Horse same Louth. Moortown don't need Conway. Chris Lawn more than capable of doing it on his own.
Anyone who trys to tell me that a manager can't manage and coach at the same time is wrong. Yes he will definitely need help and split the training up but at the end of the day to many people complicate it

time ticking away

Maybe he just wants someone to have wee chats with
canavan is the man canavan is the man ee aye adi ooh.......

redzone

Quote from: square_ball on December 01, 2023, 05:56:01 PM
Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 11:04:57 AMRichard Thornton has already managed Coaisland.

Yeah it was a long time ago and was his first go at management. He's learned his trade since and is a much better coach/manager now. I'm just surprised the Fianna wouldn't be knocking on his door looking to get him back involved. His own club be more in need of him that Magherafelt.
Did he leave himself that year or was he pushed.

Mikhailov

Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 08:30:12 PM
Quote from: Mikhailov on December 01, 2023, 07:55:16 PM
Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 04:57:49 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on December 01, 2023, 02:10:35 PM
Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 01:12:02 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on December 01, 2023, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 11:04:57 AMRichard Thornton has already managed Coaisland.
What's the view in Kildress on Tracey driving up the road to manage Cookstown and his own club are without a manager.
Another strange one is Moortown paying James Conway with Chris Lawn helping out. Surely Lawn could take it on his own

Have you tried to manage and coach a team? Too much time
Go on tell me what extra James Conway will be doing compared to Chris Lawn

You need 2 men, a coach and manager. Can't have same man setting up training then talking to players etc. the role can be shared or separate
So you can't have the same man setting up training,taking the drills then talking to players. Don't think you know what your talking about.
Maybe someone who hasn't a clue might need help. Say Rafferty of Dungannon who got Holmes in to take the training.But Chris Lawn should be on his own with help from a coaches from inside the club. It's intermediate not a county team setup we are talking about.   

How do you explain Jody Gormley & Peter McGinnity then or Horse & McKaigue or Ricey & McIver. How are they different to the Moortown set up?
Big difference is Ricey needed McIver has he was away with cavan. Horse same Louth. Moortown don't need Conway. Chris Lawn more than capable of doing it on his own.
Anyone who trys to tell me that a manager can't manage and coach at the same time is wrong. Yes he will definitely need help and split the training up but at the end of the day to many people complicate it

The debate is not whether Chris lawn can do it himself - I think we all know he can for sure and is very capable. The issue and main point is that it takes 2 men to do the job right. There is a difference between managing and coaching especially if you have massive ambitions and big squad numbers.

redzone

Quote from: Mikhailov on December 01, 2023, 10:00:18 PM
Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 08:30:12 PM
Quote from: Mikhailov on December 01, 2023, 07:55:16 PM
Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 04:57:49 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on December 01, 2023, 02:10:35 PM
Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 01:12:02 PM
Quote from: intheknowhow on December 01, 2023, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: redzone on December 01, 2023, 11:04:57 AMRichard Thornton has already managed Coaisland.
What's the view in Kildress on Tracey driving up the road to manage Cookstown and his own club are without a manager.
Another strange one is Moortown paying James Conway with Chris Lawn helping out. Surely Lawn could take it on his own

Have you tried to manage and coach a team? Too much time
Go on tell me what extra James Conway will be doing compared to Chris Lawn

You need 2 men, a coach and manager. Can't have same man setting up training then talking to players etc. the role can be shared or separate
So you can't have the same man setting up training,taking the drills then talking to players. Don't think you know what your talking about.
Maybe someone who hasn't a clue might need help. Say Rafferty of Dungannon who got Holmes in to take the training.But Chris Lawn should be on his own with help from a coaches from inside the club. It's intermediate not a county team setup we are talking about.   

How do you explain Jody Gormley & Peter McGinnity then or Horse & McKaigue or Ricey & McIver. How are they different to the Moortown set up?
Big difference is Ricey needed McIver has he was away with cavan. Horse same Louth. Moortown don't need Conway. Chris Lawn more than capable of doing it on his own.
Anyone who trys to tell me that a manager can't manage and coach at the same time is wrong. Yes he will definitely need help and split the training up but at the end of the day to many people complicate it

The debate is not whether Chris lawn can do it himself - I think we all know he can for sure and is very capable. The issue and main point is that it takes 2 men to do the job right. There is a difference between managing and coaching especially if you have massive ambitions and big squad numbers.
Of course it takes two,if not three or four. The debate is wether u can coach and manage at the same time. I'm saying you can. Original poster is saying u can't. Any decent manager will be very hands on in the coaching front at training.