Jim McGuiness - 10 Years On

[Armagh18]

Is McGuiness going to try something completely different. A full court press   with Upto 12 players pushing up at times. Be get to see something new

Is this new?

It will be if the way they are supposedly intending to use it

Are we getting leaks? No wonder he's looking to build this big fence

[Blowitupref]

Mc Guinness was with down most of last year. Didn't see nothing new or innovative there!

according to Conor Laverty he took part in a training session in January and wasn't part of the Down management.

Going by reports of Donegal'S recent challenge they played with big intensity and numbers back giving the opposition little time or room on the ball and attacked with pace on the counter.

innovative that style isn't but will take serious strength and conditioning to keep it going into July. They should have a strong league campaign this spring after a very poor one this year.

[Derryman forever]

Mc Guinness was with down most of last year. Didn't see nothing new or innovative there!

according to Conor Laverty he took part in a training session in January and wasn't part of the Down management.

Going by reports of Donegal'S recent challenge they played with big intensity and numbers back giving the opposition little time or room on the ball and attacked with pace on the counter.

innovative that style isn't but will take serious strength and conditioning to keep it going into July. They should have a strong league campaign this spring after a very poor one this year.

It was the intensity of his 2011 and 12 team that, for me was the outstanding characteristic.
I watched them play Tyrone at clones in the semi of 2011 , and I left that game thinking they could not be beat.
The whole team were really bulked up and the ferocity of their tackling was phenomenal.
The sound of many of the collisions was sickening.
Against Tyrone and Derry that year it was like boys against nen.
But i think that eventually went against them as they seem to become slower.

[marty34]

New style will be all defence and all attack.  That's the new thing.

Defend with numbers, like basketball, then all out attack with pace, like basketball. Everybody attacking giving more options.

More players will run beyond the ball carrier.

[From the Bunker]

As the song goes..... ''Don't go back, you should never go back''

I suppose he needs the money - the soccerball venture did not work out. Sports coaching is his job and what puts meals on the table.

[JoG2]

Great to see McGuinness back. Ulster Championship will be exciting. I've spoken with a couple of DL men close enough to the camp, the squad is going all out. Many have cancelled pre planned holidays (before Jim's appointment) to be at all the sessions.

[Wildweasel74]

G, he come to nough.The players ain't there, He gonna try something Derry are already doing,

[yellowcard]

The level of commitment demanded by McGuinness is unsustainable longer term. He rules in a military manner which means that unless success is obtained instantly players will begin to question the level to which they are putting their lives on hold. It worked the last time because he won 2 Ulster titles and an AI title in his first 2 seasons. He is now 10 years older with not an awful lot achieved since then and I think he will need something similar to convince the players of his methods.

[Ethan Tremblay]

He had top quality players last time also, who knew they were close and that regime was what was needed to get over the line.

I don't believe the players are there this time around and surely he put doubt in the panels heads on their own abilities asking Murphy to come out of retirement.

[NotedObserver]

He had top quality players last time also, who knew they were close and that regime was what was needed to get over the line.

I don't believe the players are there this time around and surely he put doubt in the panels heads on their own abilities asking Murphy to come out of retirement.

I would say the same quality isn't in the country either. Could they produce similar standards to Derry? I would say they could

[seafoid]

He is a great motivator
 
"That's the homes and the people they are waiting for a team "


https://youtu.be/s6J76lX9CZk&t=515s

"Then I realise that we are a good team like"

https://youtu.be/s6J76lX9CZk&t=2103s

[Captain Obvious]

He had top quality players last time also, who knew they were close and that regime was what was needed to get over the line.

I don't believe the players are there this time around and surely he put doubt in the panels heads on their own abilities asking Murphy to come out of retirement.

How many was marked down as top quality in 2010 before he started the last time?

Getting the best out of all players having them fit, conditioned and focused to challenge the best was his trait the last time and will be looking to repeat that again this time.

[Ethan Tremblay]

Mcfadden, lacy, murphy, kavanagh, cassidy.  Not sure how well the mcgees were known prior to donegal taking off to be fair but you can't argue these werent top players prior to them getting success.

It's well known they had that bad culture that he rightly corrected, got them well conditioned and setup a system that naturalised better teams. 

The culture may not need corrected this time, all teams are expected to operate at a high standard of fitness and there is little separating them in that regard, so in my view it wil boil down to the quality of players at his disposal.

I'm stumped to think how he could setup the team to play any different than most county teams are playing also, so I don't think he will get an edge on teams there like he did last time

[From the Bunker]

McGuinness had a plan, a direction, a belief. He created a aura. He was lucky to get an AI in before Dublin became consistent, Mayo did them a favour beating Dublin in the semi in 2012. And to meeting Mayo in the final was always going to be a help getting over the hurdle of winning a Final.

[Blowitupref]

McGuinness had a plan, a direction, a belief. He created a aura. He was lucky to get an AI in before Dublin became consistent, Mayo did them a favour beating Dublin in the semi in 2012. And to meeting Mayo in the final was always going to be a help getting over the hurdle of winning a Final.

Donegal beat Dublin two years later by a bit to spare so I think they would have beaten them in the 2012 final had they reached it instead of Mayo.