Poppy Watch

[Applesisapples]

Tank fcuk it's all over come today/Sunday/actually when do the t**sers stop wearing them?

So anyone who wears a poppy is a t@@ser? 

A sectarian a comment as you could not wish to read considering the vast majority of people from N Ireland who wear them are protestants.

No, did I say they were, the t**ser description is aimed at the people who continue to wear the poppies above and beyond the norm.

"Sectarian comment" - catch yourself on.

Where did you say that it was aimed at the people who continue to wear the poppies above and beyond the norm? 

Fact is you didn't !!  This is what you said.....

Tank fcuk it's all over come today/Sunday/actually when do the t**sers stop wearing them?


You were talking about anyone who wore them !

So your going to tell me what I think and mean now!
You read what you want into it!
Just like creating a "sectarian comment" out of something which in no way was one.

You told the board what you  think.

Stop digging !!

No, you read into my post what you wanted to hear, FFS you even tried turning it into a "sectarian comment!"

But you were talking about anyone who wore them, not ones who wore them after Rememberance Day as you later claimed.

And you know fine rightly that its mostly Protestants who wear them , hence the sectarianism !

Can't really be bothered with this, but here goes -
No I wasn't talking about everyone who wore them, I have explained this already, if you don't want to accept that then that's your perogative, as for your sectarian slant thats just bullshit, religion doesn't come into it for the majority of poppy wearers (except here), you'll find religion well down the list of priorities for most English, Scottish and Welsh.

Correct

[Malvinas]

http://cowped.blogspot.com/2011/11/load-of-balls.html#comment-form

[Canalman]

Ah , the thread is winding down. Time now to unravel the Christmas Tree Lights and write the letters to Santa. Although not a participant I really enjoyed  browsing the postings here.

As they say in Hollywood Ca..................... TO BE CONTINUED.

Guaranteed that this thread will be dusted down and given another full blast next October.

It's great to be Irish. Always a battle to be refought if a current one can't be arranged.

For what it is worth  this year I didn't see a single poppy here in the Dublin suburbs.

[Rossfan]

Unfortunately some of the people at the Boyle remembrance of the "Connaught" Rangers British Army one time Regiment wore them.
All I can say is  :-     and thank God I'm not from that old Garrison Town.

[seafoid]

The British war machine

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/campaigns/our_boys/4009352/Sun-Military-Awards-They-cried-with-pride.html

The maimed working class with their PTSD get glittered with stardust in the company of royalty and celebrity.
And the killing goes on  .

[Evil Genius]

The British war machine

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/campaigns/our_boys/4009352/Sun-Military-Awards-They-cried-with-pride.html

The maimed working class with their PTSD get glittered with stardust in the company of royalty and celebrity.

And the killing goes on.

Certainly does:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/8287154/Shocking-footage-emerges-of-Taliban-stoning-couple-to-death.html

Still, I'm sure this lot, for instance, will be glad to see the back of the foreign occupiers:
http://www.afghan-web.com/woman/

[muppet]

The British war machine

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/campaigns/our_boys/4009352/Sun-Military-Awards-They-cried-with-pride.html

The maimed working class with their PTSD get glittered with stardust in the company of royalty and celebrity.

And the killing goes on.

Certainly does:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/8287154/Shocking-footage-emerges-of-Taliban-stoning-couple-to-death.html

Still, I'm sure this lot, for instance, will be glad to see the back of the foreign occupiers:
http://www.afghan-web.com/woman/

Bomb them into civilization?

[HiMucker]

The British war machine

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/campaigns/our_boys/4009352/Sun-Military-Awards-They-cried-with-pride.html

The maimed working class with their PTSD get glittered with stardust in the company of royalty and celebrity.

And the killing goes on.

Certainly does:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/8287154/Shocking-footage-emerges-of-Taliban-stoning-couple-to-death.html

Still, I'm sure this lot, for instance, will be glad to see the back of the foreign occupiers:
http://www.afghan-web.com/woman/

Your correct EG, i think Afghanistan is the only country in the world that has a hospital dedicated entirely to women who suffer from burns either by being set on fire or setting themselves on fire due to the harsh treatment they receive.  But lets not kid ourselves, there plight, and the plight of their people by a ruthless regime, the taliban, is not the reason why British and US troops are there, and you know it.

[Evil Genius]

The British war machine

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/campaigns/our_boys/4009352/Sun-Military-Awards-They-cried-with-pride.html

The maimed working class with their PTSD get glittered with stardust in the company of royalty and celebrity.

And the killing goes on.

Certainly does:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/8287154/Shocking-footage-emerges-of-Taliban-stoning-couple-to-death.html

Still, I'm sure this lot, for instance, will be glad to see the back of the foreign occupiers:
http://www.afghan-web.com/woman/

Bomb them into civilization?

Aye, "civilization", that's the first thing I think about when I think about Afghanistan before the occupation...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nENvd7Zj1Qs&feature=related

[Evil Genius]

The British war machine

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/campaigns/our_boys/4009352/Sun-Military-Awards-They-cried-with-pride.html

The maimed working class with their PTSD get glittered with stardust in the company of royalty and celebrity.

And the killing goes on.

Certainly does:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/8287154/Shocking-footage-emerges-of-Taliban-stoning-couple-to-death.html

Still, I'm sure this lot, for instance, will be glad to see the back of the foreign occupiers:
http://www.afghan-web.com/woman/

Your correct EG, i think Afghanistan is the only country in the world that has a hospital dedicated entirely to women who suffering from burns iether by being set on fire or setting themselves on fire due to harsh treatment they receive.  But lets not kid ourselves, there plight, and the plight of their people by a ruthless regime, the taliban, is not the reason why British and US troops are there, and you know it.

I'm not kidding myself in the least.

The West went into Afghanistan because the Taliban regime was sheltering Bin Laden and Al Quaida, and refusing either to give them up or drive them out. Imo, this was justified.

But I hope you're not kidding yourself, either, by failing to recognise that since the invasion, life for 50%+ of the population has improved immeasurably.

Worse, if we leave before the governing administration is willing and able to resist the Taliban, then I'd give it about 10 minutes before the poor people of that benighted country are plunged right back into the Stone Age barbarity which characterised those savages*.


* - And if that makes me a Cultural Imperialist, as well as a Military one, then so be it.

[HiMucker]

The British war machine

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/campaigns/our_boys/4009352/Sun-Military-Awards-They-cried-with-pride.html

The maimed working class with their PTSD get glittered with stardust in the company of royalty and celebrity.

And the killing goes on.

Certainly does:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/8287154/Shocking-footage-emerges-of-Taliban-stoning-couple-to-death.html

Still, I'm sure this lot, for instance, will be glad to see the back of the foreign occupiers:
http://www.afghan-web.com/woman/

Your correct EG, i think Afghanistan is the only country in the world that has a hospital dedicated entirely to women who suffering from burns iether by being set on fire or setting themselves on fire due to harsh treatment they receive.  But lets not kid ourselves, there plight, and the plight of their people by a ruthless regime, the taliban, is not the reason why British and US troops are there, and you know it.

I'm not kidding myself in the least.

The West went into Afghanistan because the Taliban regime was sheltering Bin Laden and Al Quaida, and refusing either to give them up or drive them out. Imo, this was justified.

But I hope you're not kidding yourself, either, by failing to recognise that since the invasion, life for 50%+ of the population has improved immeasurably.
Worse, if we leave before the governing administration is willing and able to resist the Taliban, then I'd give it about 10 minutes before the poor people of that benighted country are plunged right back into the Stone Age barbarity which characterised those savages*.


* - And if that makes me a Cultural Imperialist, as well as a Military one, then so be it.

I dont know where you get your figures, but I will concede on that, but there was an extremley high pice to pay for that, and it still hasnt been paid in full yet.  My only gripe is the bullshit and propaganda that is spun about the armed forces being sent in to help the poor natives when it is entirely for there own self serving reasons.  If it was for humanitarian reasons there was whole host of other countries higher up the list before Afghanistan.
I would mostly agree with your lasat paragraph, that they should see the transition out, although if the "savages" have support of large percentage of the population then, as muppet put it, you cant bomb them into civilisation and the whole excercise is a waste of time lives and money.  I hope its not.

[Fear ón Srath Bán]

Aye, "civilization", that's the first thing I think about when I think about Afghanistan before the occupation...

Aye, like this was their first time of occupying Afghanistan...

The First Anglo-Afghan War

[muppet]

FATALITIES BY PROVINCE - The route of the proposed TAPI gas pipeline is exactly where most U.S. troops have died in Afghanistan (the blood red provinces of Helmand and Kandahar) .

[muppet]

Aye, "civilization", that's the first thing I think about when I think about Afghanistan before the occupation...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nENvd7Zj1Qs&feature=related

Civilisation is your argument for being there. Oil is mine.

[Evil Genius]

Aye, "civilization", that's the first thing I think about when I think about Afghanistan before the occupation...

Aye, like this was their first time of occupying Afghanistan...

The First Anglo-Afghan War

Ah right, so you reckon that the 2001 Invasion was just a continuation of "The Great Game", then?

I suppose it is just possible that the Politicians and Generals figured that they wait 150 years for some mad fcuker to emerge from the caves of Tora Bora and attack the West, so that they'd have a pretext for exacting revenge...