McKenna Cup 2024

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imtommygunn

Quote from: Redhand Santa on January 08, 2013, 01:24:34 PM
Its strange given all the complaints about Mickey Harte ruining the McKenna Cup by denying university their players that no one has complained about Donegal naming a development squad with very few players from last year involved. Would this not be doing the McKenna Cup more harm than Harte's policy? The All Ireland champions would be a big draw in the competition normally.

No. Most counties are fairly experimental during the mckenna cup apart from with their university players as they're playing for their universities.

DuffleKing

Quote from: Redhand Santa on January 08, 2013, 01:24:34 PM
Its strange given all the complaints about Mickey Harte ruining the McKenna Cup by denying university their players that no one has complained about Donegal naming a development squad with very few players from last year involved. Would this not be doing the McKenna Cup more harm than Harte's policy? The All Ireland champions would be a big draw in the competition normally.

Don't think Donegal are breaking any competition regulations?

yellowcard

Quote from: Redhand Santa on January 08, 2013, 01:24:34 PM
Its strange given all the complaints about Mickey Harte ruining the McKenna Cup by denying university their players that no one has complained about Donegal naming a development squad with very few players from last year involved. Would this not be doing the McKenna Cup more harm than Harte's policy? The All Ireland champions would be a big draw in the competition normally.

I think McGuinness has the right to do whatever he sees fit with his squad. If he can find one player out of the McKenna Cup games he will have deemed it a success. I don't think anybody is accusing Harte of deliberately ruining the McKenna cup, just that he has flouted the rules for maximum gain in order to assert his authority.

Harte treats the McKenna cup as important, most other counties view them as a series of glorified challenge matches used primarily to unearth one or two new players. I don't think you will find too many Donegal people complaining about McGuinness' approach to the competition

ck

Quote from: Redhand Santa on January 08, 2013, 01:24:34 PM
Its strange given all the complaints about Mickey Harte ruining the McKenna Cup by denying university their players that no one has complained about Donegal naming a development squad with very few players from last year involved. Would this not be doing the McKenna Cup more harm than Harte's policy? The All Ireland champions would be a big draw in the competition normally.

McGuinness hasnt broken any rules. Harte flaunts the rules. Big difference

Redhand Santa

This appears to be partly a reaction from McGuiness of not having so many college players available last year. Just thought those people who were so worried about protecting the competition and its rules would be concerned about Donegal fielding a complete development squad. This will no reduce crowds and the interest in the games. It could be argued that McGuiness's reaction to not having his college players available is doing more harm to the competition than Harte's.

DuffleKing

Quote from: rodney trotter on January 08, 2013, 04:04:49 PM
McGuinness is one of a number of county managers unhappy with the rule that gives colleges first preference on players and he was involved in a war of words with DCU boss Niall Moyna over midfielder Martin McElhinney.

That is basically the same as Harte.

So which regulation have donegal broken?

ck

Quote from: rodney trotter on January 08, 2013, 04:04:49 PM
McGuinness is one of a number of county managers unhappy with the rule that gives colleges first preference on players and he was involved in a war of words with DCU boss Niall Moyna over midfielder Martin McElhinney.

That is basically the same as Harte.

Nonsense. McGuinness can complain all he wants but he doesnt break the rules. Harte says nothing and breaks the rules. "Basically" they polar opposites.

The Dublin colleges have all the top players on scholarships so they are contracted to play for their college. That's why Armaghs Grimley can do nothing about Kevin Dyas. He takes all the Ulster colleges players though and breaks the rules in the process. .no-one stops him. Harte and Canavan the same.


Redhand Santa

Have Donegal any chance tomorrow night? I'm sure the players will be pushing to make the panel for the year but you'd have to guess they'd lack the quality.

rodney trotter

Tyrone don't play any challange games , maybe more so the reason that Harte wants the players.
I think it should be up to the players whatever they want to do, a lot might want to play with their county anyway. They would have been training with the College and playing Ryan Cup since September. Make an impression with the County side and then get back for the College and train hard for Sigerson Football...

stronghold

Quote from: rodney trotter on January 08, 2013, 10:14:30 PM
Quote from: ck on January 08, 2013, 09:32:24 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 08, 2013, 04:04:49 PM
McGuinness is one of a number of county managers unhappy with the rule that gives colleges first preference on players and he was involved in a war of words with DCU boss Niall Moyna over midfielder Martin McElhinney.

That is basically the same as Harte.

Nonsense. McGuinness can complain all he wants but he doesnt break the rules. Harte says nothing and breaks the rules. "Basically" they polar opposites.

The Dublin colleges have all the top players on scholarships so they are contracted to play for their college. That's why Armaghs Grimley can do nothing about Kevin Dyas. He takes all the Ulster colleges players though and breaks the rules in the process. .no-one stops him. Harte and Canavan the same.


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Not really, there is players on the Tyrone panel who are scholorships in UUJ. Explain more how that works if they it works different for them than in Dublin.
There are NO Tyrone players or any other County for that matter on scholarships in UUJ

ck

Quote from: stronghold on January 08, 2013, 10:56:03 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 08, 2013, 10:14:30 PM
Quote from: ck on January 08, 2013, 09:32:24 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on January 08, 2013, 04:04:49 PM
McGuinness is one of a number of county managers unhappy with the rule that gives colleges first preference on players and he was involved in a war of words with DCU boss Niall Moyna over midfielder Martin McElhinney.

That is basically the same as Harte.

Nonsense. McGuinness can complain all he wants but he doesnt break the rules. Harte says nothing and breaks the rules. "Basically" they polar opposites.

The Dublin colleges have all the top players on scholarships so they are contracted to play for their college. That's why Armaghs Grimley can do nothing about Kevin Dyas. He takes all the Ulster colleges players though and breaks the rules in the process. .no-one stops him. Harte and Canavan the same.


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Not really, there is players on the Tyrone panel who are scholorships in UUJ. Explain more how that works if they it works different for them than in Dublin.
There are NO Tyrone players or any other County for that matter on scholarships in UUJ

My understanding is that the Dublin colleges are tied in to play no matter what county managers try to do. Why is this not the same up north?

FermGael

Bad fog in Enniskillen. Referee to make a decision at 6.30
Wanted.  Forwards to take frees.
Not fussy.  Any sort of ability will be considered

FermGael

Wanted.  Forwards to take frees.
Not fussy.  Any sort of ability will be considered

donegal lad

Any radio link for this game lads don't think highland radio has it fully

theticklemister

Drici said that highland radio has the second half