McKenna Cup 2024

[mackers]

And why would they want to risk injury in a crap McKenna cup competition when they have the potential of winning an all-ireland club championship! 

To further their chances of getting a starting spot on the Armagh team when the championship comes round, that's why!  They risk an injury every time they take to the training pitch.

[EC Unique]

No betting on the tyrone/derry game at the weekend on paddy power ...... do they know something we dont ?

What time is the match in omagh at?

[theticklemister]

No betting on the tyrone/derry game at the weekend on paddy power ...... do they know something we dont ?

What time is the match in omagh at?

2pm. betting is up

Tyrone 1/2 v 15/8 Derry.

Has tryone team been named. Derry's team is strong enough now

[yellowcard]

And why would they want to risk injury in a crap McKenna cup competition when they have the potential of winning an all-ireland club championship! 

To further their chances of getting a starting spot on the Armagh team when the championship comes round, that's why!  They risk an injury every time they take to the training pitch.

So if your club was involved in an AI semi final would you be happy to release your players for county challenge matches (McKenna cup)?  Crossmaglen will have challenge matches planned over the coming weekends and will want exclusive access to their players to work on formations etc and who could blame them. From an Armagh management point of view this is a serious drawback especially concerning the non-established county panellists who are unproven at this level. Its far from ideal for Armagh but until the fixture calendar changes then I think its reasonable to expect that players main focus during this period will lie with their clubs.

[Mont]

importance of games takes priority which is end of story.
if a county were in ai ireland semi final or final would the player be playin for the club in a tournament game 2 or 3 weeks befor it? course not.
thse saying players shud be playin for armagh at the moment rthr than cros need to examin their sanity.
tough sh1t for armagh

[yellowcard]

Just on that note I don't see why Armagh don't put forward a motion before congress that the club championships be played up before Christmas. Playing the club championship final almost 4 months after the quarter finals (provincial finals) makes absolutely no sense.

[DuffleKing]

And why would they want to risk injury in a crap McKenna cup competition when they have the potential of winning an all-ireland club championship! 

To further their chances of getting a starting spot on the Armagh team when the championship comes round, that's why!  They risk an injury every time they take to the training pitch.

So if your club was involved in an AI semi final would you be happy to release your players for county challenge matches (McKenna cup)?  Crossmaglen will have challenge matches planned over the coming weekends and will want exclusive access to their players to work on formations etc and who could blame them. From an Armagh management point of view this is a serious drawback especially concerning the non-established county panellists who are unproven at this level. Its far from ideal for Armagh but until the fixture calendar changes then I think its reasonable to expect that players main focus during this period will lie with their clubs.

Up to two weeks before a club championship match county players should be training one night a week with the county, one with the club and alternating who they play in matches for from weekend to weekend.

Club players play all county league games throughout the county league and championship campaigns. club league games are significantly less important to players with county ambitions than McKenna Cup and National league games.

Whisper it quietly because the majority judge what an individual player's priority should be based on their own preferences, but if you got a quiet word with any county player still involved in the club championship they'd tell you they would like to play an odd county game in January in particular and between All Ireland club semi & final for competitive edge and staying part of the team.

They can't say that out loud of course because they wouldn't be "A Clubman" then and woe betide them if they lose...

[mackers]

importance of games takes priority which is end of story.
if a county were in ai ireland semi final or final would the player be playin for the club in a tournament game 2 or 3 weeks befor it? course not.
thse saying players shud be playin for armagh at the moment rthr than cros need to examin their sanity.
tough sh1t for armagh

Cross players have played in LEAGUE games while still in the AI club before so it's not as if there is no precedent.

[God14]

Tyrone team for Sunday


1 – Niall Morgan – Éadan na dTorc

2 – Dermot Carlin – Coill an Chlochair

3 – Conor Gormley – An Charraig Mhór

4 – Barry Tierney – An Omaigh

5 – Ryan McKenna – Eaglais

6 – Joe McMahon – An Omaigh

7 – Danny McBride – An Srath Ban

8 – Conor Clarke – An Omaigh

9 – Sean Cavanagh – An Mhaigh

10 – Kevin Gallagher – An Baile Nua

11 – Mark Donnelly – An Charraig Mhór

12 – Matthew Donnelly – Trí Leac

13 – Martin Penrose – An Charraig Mhór

14 – Stephen O'Neill – Clann na nGael

15 – Johnathan Lafferty – Urnaí

16 – Pascal McConnell – An Baile Nua

17 – Peter Harte – Aireagal Chiaráin

18 – Plunkett Kane – Oileán a'Ghuail

19 – Conor McAlliskey – Cluain Eo

20 – Tiarnan McCann – Coill an Chlochair

21 – Cathal McCarron – An Droim Mór

22 – Darren McCurry – Éadan na dTorc

23 – Dean McNally – Cill Dhreasa

24 – Ronan McNamee – Achadh Uí Aráin

25 – Patrick McNiece – Oileán a'Ghuail

26 – Sean Warnock – An Caisleán Glas

[Redhand Santa]

Tyrone team for Sunday


1 – Niall Morgan – Éadan na dTorc

2 – Dermot Carlin – Coill an Chlochair

3 – Conor Gormley – An Charraig Mhór

4 – Barry Tierney – An Omaigh

5 – Ryan McKenna – Eaglais

6 – Joe McMahon – An Omaigh

7 – Danny McBride – An Srath Ban

8 – Conor Clarke – An Omaigh

9 – Sean Cavanagh – An Mhaigh

10 – Kevin Gallagher – An Baile Nua

11 – Mark Donnelly – An Charraig Mhór

12 – Matthew Donnelly – Trí Leac

13 – Martin Penrose – An Charraig Mhór

14 – Stephen O'Neill – Clann na nGael

15 – Johnathan Lafferty – Urnaí

16 – Pascal McConnell – An Baile Nua

17 – Peter Harte – Aireagal Chiaráin

18 – Plunkett Kane – Oileán a'Ghuail

19 – Conor McAlliskey – Cluain Eo

20 – Tiarnan McCann – Coill an Chlochair

21 – Cathal McCarron – An Droim Mór

22 – Darren McCurry – Éadan na dTorc

23 – Dean McNally – Cill Dhreasa

24 – Ronan McNamee – Achadh Uí Aráin

25 – Patrick McNiece – Oileán a'Ghuail

26 – Sean Warnock – An Caisleán Glas

Decent enough team for this time of year. It'll be interesting to see how Tierney,McKenna,McBride and Gallagher get on. Also Clarke in midfield. I'd maybe have liked to see something different in the full back line. We have struggled there in recent years and Carlin is unlikely to start there. Harte is obviously out to add mobility around the middle 8 so the new players here will have to work hard to prove their worth. Will O'Neill be captain for the year?

[yellowcard]

And why would they want to risk injury in a crap McKenna cup competition when they have the potential of winning an all-ireland club championship! 

To further their chances of getting a starting spot on the Armagh team when the championship comes round, that's why!  They risk an injury every time they take to the training pitch.

So if your club was involved in an AI semi final would you be happy to release your players for county challenge matches (McKenna cup)?  Crossmaglen will have challenge matches planned over the coming weekends and will want exclusive access to their players to work on formations etc and who could blame them. From an Armagh management point of view this is a serious drawback especially concerning the non-established county panellists who are unproven at this level. Its far from ideal for Armagh but until the fixture calendar changes then I think its reasonable to expect that players main focus during this period will lie with their clubs.

Up to two weeks before a club championship match county players should be training one night a week with the county, one with the club and alternating who they play in matches for from weekend to weekend.

Club players play all county league games throughout the county league and championship campaigns. club league games are significantly less important to players with county ambitions than McKenna Cup and National league games.

Whisper it quietly because the majority judge what an individual player's priority should be based on their own preferences, but if you got a quiet word with any county player still involved in the club championship they'd tell you they would like to play an odd county game in January in particular and between All Ireland club semi & final for competitive edge and staying part of the team.

They can't say that out loud of course because they wouldn't be "A Clubman" then and woe betide them if they lose...

I would be delighted to see the Cross players released for a McKenna cup game or a national league match if some compromise could be reached between club and county management. However its not realistic to expect it to happen. It worked before when Joe Kernan was managing Armagh because he was a Cross man and was able to negotiate with his own clubmen to gain access to players for League matches.

The problem is that they are on entirely different training agendas, one team attempting to peak for mid February, the other putting in the hard yards trying to peak for early June. If the club feels that they are being inconvenienced by this arrangement or that they are playing challenge matches without a full team then they will restrict player access.

I'm not sure of your sources when stating that club players would prefer to play a McKenna cup game than fine tune preparations for their upcoming AI club semi-final, but I would doubt very much if that rang true and in any case each individual player will have different priorities.

However imo the fixture scheduling is ludicrous with an almost 3 month gap between rounds of the club series. That's where the real problem lies.

 

[BennyCake]

same rule applies

Whats the situation regarding the best runner-up? Is it still the same rule, even with only 3 teams in Group B??? Surely not!?

Well if that's the case, Armagh, Down and Cavan fans should only have to pay half price into games. And those who have bought season tickets, they should get half of it back too.

[AFS]

I would be delighted to see the Cross players released for a McKenna cup game or a national league match if some compromise could be reached between club and county management. However its not realistic to expect it to happen. It worked before when Joe Kernan was managing Armagh because he was a Cross man and was able to negotiate with his own clubmen to gain access to players for League matches.

Kernan wasn't managing Armagh the last time this happened.

[stronghold]

 

Tyrone team for Sunday
4 UUJ , 4 St Mary's , 1 Queens ?


1 – Niall Morgan – Éadan na dTorc                ST MARYS
2 – Dermot Carlin – Coill an Chlochair
3 – Conor Gormley – An Charraig Mhór
4 – Barry Tierney – An Omaigh                          UUJ
5 – Ryan McKenna – Eaglais                              UUJ
6 – Joe McMahon – An Omaigh
7 – Danny McBride – An Srath Ban                 ST MARYS
8 – Conor Clarke – An Omaigh                      ST MARYS
9 – Sean Cavanagh – An Mhaigh
10 – Kevin Gallagher – An Baile Nua
11 – Mark Donnelly – An Charraig Mhór
12 – Matthew Donnelly – Trí Leac                    UUJ
13 – Martin Penrose – An Charraig Mhór
14 – Stephen O'Neill – Clann na nGael
15 – Johnathan Lafferty – Urnaí
16 – Pascal McConnell – An Baile Nua
17 – Peter Harte – Aireagal Chiaráin                ST MARYS
18 – Plunkett Kane – Oileán a'Ghuail
19 – Conor McAlliskey – Cluain Eo                   UUJ
20 – Tiarnan McCann – Coill an Chlochair
21 – Cathal McCarron – An Droim Mór
22 – Darren McCurry – Éadan na dTorc     
23 – Dean McNally – Cill Dhreasa                           UUJ
24 – Ronan McNamee – Achadh Uí Aráin
25 – Patrick McNiece – Oileán a'Ghuail
26 – Sean Warnock – An Caisleán Glas                  QUB

[ck]

As far as I'm aware there is another Tyrone lad playing for UCD. Was very dominant against SIT in Novemeber. Their youth policy above in Tyrone looking very healthy indeed. Credit to Harte and Co.