The same-sex marriage referendum debate

[armaghniac]

Nepotism is when you direct public policy to the advantage of our own family, when you wouldn't do it for other people. ... This is corruption.

So supposing someone opposes marriage equality. Then one of their children comes out as gay. Then they learn that homosexuality is as much an accident of birth as left-handedness. Then they change their minds on marriage equality. That's not "nepotism." That's called changing your mind in the light of having a new understanding.

If some politician is making pronouncements on an important matter they should have an informed opinion, which cannot be changed by a sample of one. In the same way as if one of Newt Gingrich's children decided to become a Muslim and he then decided that invading Iraq was wrong, it was no more or less wrong because of one person.

[Eamonnca1]

If some politician is making pronouncements on an important matter they should have an informed opinion, which cannot be changed by a sample of one. In the same way as if one of Newt Gingrich's children decided to become a Muslim and he then decided that invading Iraq was wrong, it was no more or less wrong because of one person.

So once a politician realizes that homophobia is wrong because one of his children turns out to be gay, he should carry on being homophobic and not let his new understanding of the matter change his mind?

[armaghniac]

If some politician is making pronouncements on an important matter they should have an informed opinion, which cannot be changed by a sample of one. In the same way as if one of Newt Gingrich's children decided to become a Muslim and he then decided that invading Iraq was wrong, it was no more or less wrong because of one person.

So once a politician realizes that homophobia is wrong because one of his children turns out to be gay, he should carry on being homophobic and not let his new understanding of the matter change his mind?

What with unconditional love of children and whatnot, he may then be mainly representing himself.

[Eamonnca1]

Even if he now knows he was wrong before?

[muppet]

But you can't call churches backward and discriminatory for simply adhering to non negotiable beliefs derived straight from the bible.

Yes you can.

Non-negitiable beliefs straight from The Bible such as this:

And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.

Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you.

Or is it an a la carte arrangement?

[Rossfan]

Why do so many people always quote some mad things from the Old Testament?
The New Testament is the real basis for Christianity.
Anyway I'm probably changing to a Yes on this proposal on the basis that it's no skin off my nose.

[johnneycool]

What about Jewish faith Tony? were Mary and Joseph not really married because theirs was a Jewish service in a synagogue?

Good catch! I think our Tony just called Jesus a b**tard too!

Sure we all know Jesus was a b*stard, the bible tells us so.

Mary was betrothed to Joseph, not married to him.

[annapr]

And Jesus had two fathers. He turned out ok 

[macdanger2]

And Jesus had two fathers. He turned out ok 

That'd make a great campaign poster

[muppet]

And Jesus had two fathers. He turned out ok 

Brilliant, I might nick this!

[topcuppla]

Aside from the religious perspective I believe gay marriage and the normalisation of unnatural relationships to full equal status with those that are natural, is bad for society.

"Unnatural?" Are you saying that homosexuality does not exist in nature?

I think the homo but shows it is for humans only!

[imtommygunn]

Aside from the religious perspective I believe gay marriage and the normalisation of unnatural relationships to full equal status with those that are natural, is bad for society.

"Unnatural?" Are you saying that homosexuality does not exist in nature?

I think the homo but shows it is for humans only!

There was a gay bull...

[deiseach]

Jesus is probably not a good example for the Yes campaign. His upbringing made him tripolar.

[Hardy]

And Jesus had two fathers. He turned out ok 

Brilliant, I might nick this!

Excellent!

I do find it funny that the "Vote 'No' for Jesus" brigade seem to miss the point that Jesus's message was "love your fellow man".

Anyway, yesterday I heard the most bizarre argument yet for voting 'No'. I was told, "if the animals behaved like that, we'd have nothing to eat".

[Bingo]

And Jesus had two fathers. He turned out ok 

Brilliant, I might nick this!

Excellent!

I do find it funny that the "Vote 'No' for Jesus" brigade seem to miss the point that Jesus's message was "love your fellow man".

Anyway, yesterday I heard the most bizarre argument yet for voting 'No'. I was told, "if the animals behaved like that, we'd have nothing to eat".

Even that's flawed. Sure the AI man does most of the work now anyway.