The same-sex marriage referendum debate

[muppet]

My point is that Quinn stated that there was one sided propaganda, and you contended that there was one sided propaganda a thousand years ago, which is neither here nor there and not a useful contribution to the debate.  There is also the suggestion that this has something to do with Catholicism , which it doesn't,. All this talk of pulpits and the like is a complete distraction, and a number of contributors to this debate seem to have got a belt of a strap from a Christian Brother and regard every topic in the context of revenge.

Do you know who David Quinn is?

The No campaign will be heavily influenced by the Church as far as I can see.

As for your last attempt at victimhood, I don't see reference to the church on threads such as Liverpool, Moviebox, Golf, Red/Green Deisel, Premier League, Death Notices, Holidays, Running, Man Utd, Horse Racing etc. Just to pick a few off the top page of the General Section of the Board. I can't imagine there are too many threads in the GAA section dominated by posters seeking revenge against Christian Brothers, especially those of us who weren't educated by Christian Brothers.

So those who 'regard every topic in the context of revenge' appear to be in your own head.

More sophistry, garnished with absurd straw men.

[Sidney]

My point is that Quinn stated that there was one sided propaganda

Is this the same David Quinn who has built a very successful media career for himself based on spouting his one-sided propaganda? And he's far from the only one.

[armaghniac]

Do you know who David Quinn is?

ad hominem
[ad hom-uh-nuh m -nem, ahd‐]

adjective
1. appealing to one's prejudices, emotions, or special interests rather than to one's intellect or reason.
2. attacking an opponent's character rather than answering his argument.

Origin of ad hominem
< Latin: lit, to the man
/æd ˈhɒmɪˌnɛm/
adjective, adverb
1. directed against a person rather than against his arguments
2. based on or appealing to emotion rather than reason

[muppet]

Do you know who David Quinn is?

ad hominem
[ad hom-uh-nuh m -nem, ahd‐]

adjective
1. appealing to one's prejudices, emotions, or special interests rather than to one's intellect or reason.
2. attacking an opponent's character rather than answering his argument.

Origin of ad hominem
< Latin: lit, to the man
/æd ˈhɒmɪˌnɛm/
adjective, adverb
1. directed against a person rather than against his arguments
2. based on or appealing to emotion rather than reason

Hiding again.

You said this:

There is also the suggestion that this has something to do with Catholicism , which it doesn't,.

I asked, do you know who David Quinn is?

Clue: Among other activities he writes for The Irish Catholic.

How on earth is this an ad hominem?

[J70]

When is this referendum that will initiate the collapse of society?

[armaghniac]

I asked, do you know who David Quinn is?

Clue: Among other activities he writes for The Irish Catholic.

How on earth is this an ad hominem?

So what? He could also in the GAA.

[Sidney]

When is this referendum that will initiate the collapse of society?

The referendum will take place on May 22nd with the collapse of society occurring on the evening of May 23rd, which coincidentally is also when the Eurovision Song Contest takes place.

I wouldn't want to be straight that night. You could be lynched.

[muppet]

I asked, do you know who David Quinn is?

Clue: Among other activities he writes for The Irish Catholic.

How on earth is this an ad hominem?

So what? He could also in the GAA.

And has the GAA preached for 2,000 years of the evils of homosexuality?

[armaghniac]

Is Mary McAleese to not be allowed comment because she is a Catholic? Or do you only want to muzzle your opponents?

[muppet]

Is Mary McAleese to not be allowed comment because she is a Catholic? Or do you only want to muzzle your opponents?

Please show me where I said Mary McAleese is not allowed comment.
Please show me where I said anyone is not allowed comment.

Are you aware that the vast majority of voters and campaigners will be Catholics?

[Maguire01]

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/same-sex-marriage-referendum-campaigns-ready-for-the-off-1.2171726

"What is happening so far, to my mind, is one-sided propaganda," says the newspaper columnist David Quinn, who is a member of the group and head of the Iona Institute, which campaigns to promote marriage and religion.

...as against the one-sided propaganda that has been thumped from pulpits for over 2000 years?

Do you think, in general, that bias in the past entitles the opposite bias in the present? If Protestants denied Catholics rights in the past, should Catholics now deny Protestants rights for 800 years to balance things up?

But the one-sided propaganda is still coming from the pulpit, is it not? So now we're getting a bit of balance.

And given that this guy is a columnist, he has plenty of opportunities to put forward his case.

[Maguire01]

A referendum by definition is democratic and is the very opposite to 'one-sided'. That I what I believe he is really objecting to.

Did he say that he objected to a referendum?

Do you think he welcomes it? Given the option, do you think he's happy for the public to make their decision, or would he prefer no referendum and the status quo?

[Sidney]

And has the GAA preached for 2,000 years of the evils of homosexuality?

I can't think of a more sexually permissive sporting organisation. The "Gaylick Athletic Association" is a bit of a giveaway. Hurling was invented by Cuchullain who liked to knock around in bed with Ferdia. His stick and ball handling were sublime. And sure didn't generations of priests beat the game into youngsters. And if any group among society knew about gay sex, it was priests.

[screenexile]

NAILED IT!!!!

[Aestrics]

I am yet to hear a sound argument against allowing same-sex marriages.