Brolly has consistently hammered Tyrone in his columns in the Indo.
Com O'Rourke has been behind in ladling out the criticism of Tyrone football in his columns.
Recently Ewan McKenna has tackled Mickey Harte and issues relating to Sean Cavanagh.
Today Dermot Crowe goes even further with this article.....
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/remembering-the-tragic-death-of-a-tyrone-gaa-fan-at-a-minor-game-in-1977-and-where-violence-can-take-us-37345116.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/remembering-the-tragic-death-of-a-tyrone-gaa-fan-at-a-minor-game-in-1977-and-where-violence-can-take-us-37345116.html)
Trump, Kim Jong Un and ISIS have formed an alliance and are going to invade Tyrone.
Does feel like a bit of an onslaught.
Makes ye think that if Tyrone had won the AI then a lot of high profile figures would have stayed in bed for a week.
Could ye not just calm down a small bit?
It's only a game.
Couldn't give one toss. He had to dig deep for that one. V poorly put together article IMO.
I wonder will Joe bring up the incidents in Derry over the past couple of weekends?
Quote from: mup on September 24, 2018, 07:45:10 AM
I wonder will Joe bring up the incidents in Derry over the past couple of weekends?
Or Ewan over the incidents in Kildare?
Quote from: mup on September 24, 2018, 07:45:10 AM
I wonder will Joe bring up the incidents in Derry over the past couple of weekends?
Are these the ones at U10 level?
Quote from: Rudi on September 24, 2018, 09:32:54 AM
Quote from: mup on September 24, 2018, 07:45:10 AM
I wonder will Joe bring up the incidents in Derry over the past couple of weekends?
Are these the ones at U10 level?
u10 as well?
The ones I am referring to are adult.
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 24, 2018, 08:53:43 AM
Quote from: mup on September 24, 2018, 07:45:10 AM
I wonder will Joe bring up the incidents in Derry over the past couple of weekends?
Or Ewan over the incidents in Kildare?
Was there more than one?
Why is the lord persecuting Tyrone? The whole county needs to go to Lough Derg, I think.
Jesus, Mary and Joseph, assist me now and in my last agony.
Tyrone, welcome to the world of Dublin, although no where near as bad as the noughties.
Its a long way from the sweetheart writings of Mayo.
Quote from: TheGreatest on September 24, 2018, 09:54:50 AM
Tyrone, welcome to the world of Dublin, although no where near as bad as the noughties.
Its a long way from the sweetheart writings of Mayo.
Smart words from a dumb man/woman!!
You sir/madam are perhaps the most consistent gobshite I have ever had the pleasure to encounter!
Good day to you! >:(
Quote from: Crete Boom on September 24, 2018, 10:07:53 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on September 24, 2018, 09:54:50 AM
Tyrone, welcome to the world of Dublin, although no where near as bad as the noughties.
Its a long way from the sweetheart writings of Mayo.
Smart words from a dumb man/woman!!
You sir/madam are perhaps the most consistent gobshite I have ever had the pleasure to encounter!
The pleasure Is all yours my friend.
Alternative views and opinions must not be welcome on this, views that goes against some main posters it seems, with agenda's.
Its a fair comment, some counties get an easier ride than others in the press. Mayo is being one of them, Tyrone on the other side of it.
That list of incidents, with the exception of the one were the man was killed, could be written about any county in Ireland.
"Edendork and Moy, who were in the headlines after last weekend's outbreak of indiscipline, have prior history."
This is not factual. Another poorly researched and written article.
'In November 2005, not long after Tyrone had won a second All-Ireland in three seasons, a match between Edendork and Moy was abandoned after just 15 minutes. The breaking point was an incident where an umpire became involved in an altercation with one of the Edendork players.
It was expected the clubs would be severely punished. Instead they were fined. Only a few weeks later, another match was abandoned involving Edendork, this time against Eglish in a sudden-death relegation tie which the referee saw fit to terminate halfway through the second half. What message did that convey?'
Is that not true?
Im sure if you dredged through 40 years of disciplinary incidents from any county you could put together a decent rap sheet.
The Indo will highlight court material about any « GAA star » from any county. Any kind of skulduggery anywhere is brought to the attention of readers. The idea that Tyrone is singled out is incorrect.
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on September 24, 2018, 01:01:52 PM
Im sure if you dredged through 40 years of disciplinary incidents from any county you could put together a decent rap sheet.
Galway hurling for starters. Seems to be calmer of late though.
Quote from: seafoid on September 24, 2018, 01:43:23 PM
The Indo will highlight court material about any « GAA star » from any county. Any kind of skulduggery anywhere is brought to the attention of readers. The idea that Tyrone is singled out is incorrect.
Yes as opposed to the egg chasers they will do so with great glee.
But with Tyrone they do so with a special eagerness
As for the article itself I find it disturbing. Very insensitive to the man's family. A man was killed, no report on the police investigation at the time or inquiry into his death????....just an attempt to link this into other incidents most of which happened decades later.
Pat McCartan I suspect was well aware what the journalist was at when he said this is the first time in 40 years that the press have taken an interest in it.
Disgraceful tabloid journalism but its what we have come to expect as a rule from the Indo
Quote from: Owenmoresider on September 24, 2018, 02:06:01 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on September 24, 2018, 01:01:52 PM
Im sure if you dredged through 40 years of disciplinary incidents from any county you could put together a decent rap sheet.
Galway hurling for starters. Seems to be calmer of late though.
Tipp hurling as well
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on September 24, 2018, 01:01:52 PM
Im sure if you dredged through 40 years of disciplinary incidents from any county you could put together a decent rap sheet.
Is "attempt a whatabout to distract from the point" the first rule in the Tyrone propaganda ministry's PR handbook or something?
Quote from: omaghjoe on September 24, 2018, 03:24:37 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 24, 2018, 01:43:23 PM
The Indo will highlight court material about any « GAA star » from any county. Any kind of skulduggery anywhere is brought to the attention of readers. The idea that Tyrone is singled out is incorrect.
Yes as opposed to the egg chasers they will do so with great glee.
But with Tyrone they do so with a special eagerness
As for the article itself I find it disturbing. Very insensitive to the man's family. A man was killed, no report on the police investigation at the time or inquiry into his death????....just an attempt to link this into other incidents most of which happened decades later.
Pat McCartan I suspect was well aware what the journalist was at when he said this is the first time in 40 years that the press have taken an interest in it.
Disgraceful tabloid journalism but its what we have come to expect as a rule from the Indo
Tyrone in 1977. I'd say there was very little, if any assistance given to an RUC investigation.
In the South has the Gardai ever been called to a GAA incident/melee/fight etc? Has there ever been a prosecution does anyone know?
The GAA and county boards have a duty of care to players. Fines given to clubs have no effect. The players never have to pay them. A more stringent rulebook with less appeals and loopholes. One appeal and if you fail your suspension is doubled. Would cut out a load of messing. Lots of clubs and counties appeal everything as they have nothing to lose and a high possibility of getting off. This should be a priority for the DG and Croke Park, not some bullshit football rule change.
It's only a matter of time until a serious incident happens. When you are on a football field you should not be immune from the law of the land or indeed the rules of the game.
Quote from: omaghjoe on September 24, 2018, 03:24:37 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 24, 2018, 01:43:23 PM
The Indo will highlight court material about any « GAA star » from any county. Any kind of skulduggery anywhere is brought to the attention of readers. The idea that Tyrone is singled out is incorrect.
Yes as opposed to the egg chasers they will do so with great glee.
But with Tyrone they do so with a special eagerness
As for the article itself I find it disturbing. Very insensitive to the man's family. A man was killed, no report on the police investigation at the time or inquiry into his death????....just an attempt to link this into other incidents most of which happened decades later.
Pat McCartan I suspect was well aware what the journalist was at when he said this is the first time in 40 years that the press have taken an interest in it.
Disgraceful tabloid journalism but its what we have come to expect as a rule from the Indo
Do you not think he has a point about lack of discipline in the GAA?
In ALL counties when a player is sent off it's the exception rather than the rule for the player/co. board to accept the ban and not look to appeal. Even then the majority of the appeals are based on proceedure rather than the innocence of the individual.
Over the last few weeks we have seen 20 something cards in a Tyrone senior club game, mass brawl in an intermediate game and in the summer the mass brawl with the Tyrone and Armagh U20s.
But sure have a cheap shot at rugby. They at least are clamping down on dangerous tackles to try and make the game safer. In the GAA refs are expected to turn a blind eye to foul play if it means the "star player" might miss a big game for the club/county due to suspension
Quote from: dublin7 on September 24, 2018, 03:51:44 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on September 24, 2018, 03:24:37 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 24, 2018, 01:43:23 PM
The Indo will highlight court material about any « GAA star » from any county. Any kind of skulduggery anywhere is brought to the attention of readers. The idea that Tyrone is singled out is incorrect.
Yes as opposed to the egg chasers they will do so with great glee.
But with Tyrone they do so with a special eagerness
As for the article itself I find it disturbing. Very insensitive to the man's family. A man was killed, no report on the police investigation at the time or inquiry into his death????....just an attempt to link this into other incidents most of which happened decades later.
Pat McCartan I suspect was well aware what the journalist was at when he said this is the first time in 40 years that the press have taken an interest in it.
Disgraceful tabloid journalism but its what we have come to expect as a rule from the Indo
Do you not think he has a point about lack of discipline in the GAA?
In ALL counties when a player is sent off it's the exception rather than the rule for the player/co. board to accept the ban and not look to appeal. Even then the majority of the appeals are based on proceedure rather than the innocence of the individual.
Over the last few weeks we have seen 20 something cards in a Tyrone senior club game, mass brawl in an intermediate game and in the summer the mass brawl with the Tyrone and Armagh U20s.
But sure have a cheap shot at rugby. They at least are clamping down on dangerous tackles to try and make the game safer. In the GAA refs are expected to turn a blind eye to foul play if it means the "star player" might miss a big game for the club/county due to suspension
I wasnt having a cheap shot at rugby (unless your talking about egg chasing jibe) I was talking about the fawning by the Indo and RTE to (their perceived) elitism of rugby
IF that was his point he didnt make it very well if at all... he was using a man's death 40 years ago, and targeting it as a particular problem in one particular county, shabby stuff.
He is quite clearly and explicitly targeting Tyrone GAA in particular and callously exploiting a man's death to make his point. He quite clearly gave no consideration of the man's family else in the article.
The incident was first and foremost not about the GAA, Tyrone or the clubs but the the unlawful killing of a man with a family. Using it to make a point about any of the former without properly addressing the latter communicates that he doesn't really give a shit about the human cost of that tragedy.
Look, ALL counties have this kind of sh1te going on. I was told years ago the Wicklow championship was utter mayhem at times.. Lovely Wicklow, the garden of Ireland ffs. If this column and the swell of pressure on CBs by the masses helps curb this carryon, then great.
Personally I didn't know anyone had died during a melee before ie news to me.
There's collective responsibility needed, CBs to come down hard (rule changes if required) clubs and players taking their oil, spectators etc not behaving like animals when a fight break outs on the pitch.
Quote from: Keyser soze on September 24, 2018, 11:08:53 AM
That list of incidents, with the exception of the one were the man was killed, could be written about any county in Ireland.
https://youtu.be/zUoT5AxFpRs
That's quite an exception to be fair
Quote from: omaghjoe on September 24, 2018, 05:15:27 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on September 24, 2018, 03:51:44 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on September 24, 2018, 03:24:37 PM
Quote from: seafoid on September 24, 2018, 01:43:23 PM
The Indo will highlight court material about any « GAA star » from any county. Any kind of skulduggery anywhere is brought to the attention of readers. The idea that Tyrone is singled out is incorrect.
Yes as opposed to the egg chasers they will do so with great glee.
But with Tyrone they do so with a special eagerness
As for the article itself I find it disturbing. Very insensitive to the man's family. A man was killed, no report on the police investigation at the time or inquiry into his death????....just an attempt to link this into other incidents most of which happened decades later.
Pat McCartan I suspect was well aware what the journalist was at when he said this is the first time in 40 years that the press have taken an interest in it.
Disgraceful tabloid journalism but its what we have come to expect as a rule from the Indo
Do you not think he has a point about lack of discipline in the GAA?
In ALL counties when a player is sent off it's the exception rather than the rule for the player/co. board to accept the ban and not look to appeal. Even then the majority of the appeals are based on proceedure rather than the innocence of the individual.
Over the last few weeks we have seen 20 something cards in a Tyrone senior club game, mass brawl in an intermediate game and in the summer the mass brawl with the Tyrone and Armagh U20s.
But sure have a cheap shot at rugby. They at least are clamping down on dangerous tackles to try and make the game safer. In the GAA refs are expected to turn a blind eye to foul play if it means the "star player" might miss a big game for the club/county due to suspension
I wasnt having a cheap shot at rugby (unless your talking about egg chasing jibe) I was talking about the fawning by the Indo and RTE to (their perceived) elitism of rugby
IF that was his point he didnt make it very well if at all... he was using a man's death 40 years ago, and targeting it as a particular problem in one particular county, shabby stuff.
He is quite clearly and explicitly targeting Tyrone GAA in particular and callously exploiting a man's death to make his point. He quite clearly gave no consideration of the man's family else in the article.
The incident was first and foremost not about the GAA, Tyrone or the clubs but the the unlawful killing of a man with a family. Using it to make a point about any of the former without properly addressing the latter communicates that he doesn't really give a shit about the human cost of that tragedy.
The Tyrone executive released an official statement at the time. "The Tyrone county executive condemns and deplores the unwarranted and unprovoked attack on the minor players and officials at Cookstown on Tuesday, August 2, which resulted in the untimely death of the late Paddy Hughes. The county executive advises all members and officials to do their utmost to ensure that those concerned in this dastardly deed, which brought disgrace and degradation to the GAA and all it stands for, be made amenable for their actions."Was anyone brought to justice for this man's death?
Quote from: Syferus on September 24, 2018, 03:34:59 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on September 24, 2018, 01:01:52 PM
Im sure if you dredged through 40 years of disciplinary incidents from any county you could put together a decent rap sheet.
Is "attempt a whatabout to distract from the point" the first rule in the Tyrone propaganda ministry's PR handbook or something?
No the first rule is we humiliate the GAA toilet brush that is Roscommon...
Someone asked a question a page back if the article has a point about the lack of discipline in the GAA - Yes it does.
However the author has leveled the charge at Tyrone - whilst using two examples of ill discipline in national club games involving teams from Kerry and teams from Tyrone. There's no accusation leveled at Kerry, on the whole or even in these individual circumstances. Just Tyrone.
So to answer the original question - not just the Indo is going after Tyrone and I think that's exactly what Peter Canavan referenced. By all means stamp out violence and thuggery in the games, but don't be naïve enough to think the be all and end all is way up north in old Tyrone.
In addition, what frankly sticks in the craw is that Dermot Crowe doesn't give one flying fcuk about Barney Horisk, or Paddy Hughes, or their families.
It's quite a gutter tactic to draw attention to a conversation that is already in full flow.
Edendork certainly don't come out of this article in a good light.
Obviously, the reputations of carrickmore, cookstown, ardboe and a few others go before them.
Making friends were ever they go..
Quote from: regal on September 24, 2018, 11:38:29 PM
Edendork certainly don't come out of this article in a good light.
Obviously, the reputations of carrickmore, cookstown, ardboe and a few others go before them.
Making friends were ever they go..
?
What reputation is that? The carmen wans won't like that.
Quote from: Therealdonald on September 25, 2018, 12:13:18 AM
Quote from: regal on September 24, 2018, 11:38:29 PM
Edendork certainly don't come out of this article in a good light.
Obviously, the reputations of carrickmore, cookstown, ardboe and a few others go before them.
Making friends were ever they go..
?
What reputation is that? The carmen wans won't like that.
Carrickmore were always hard bastards. Played on the edge but were never a dirty team. Hard yes. Dirty no.
Quote from: Puckoon on September 24, 2018, 09:31:02 PM
In addition, what frankly sticks in the craw is that Dermot Crowe doesn't give one flying fcuk about Barney Horisk, or Paddy Hughes, or their families.
It's quite a gutter tactic to draw attention to a conversation that is already in full flow.
+1
Absolute gutter trash writing. No thought for the people of these families.
Quote from: chieftain on September 25, 2018, 09:56:43 AM
Quote from: Puckoon on September 24, 2018, 09:31:02 PM
In addition, what frankly sticks in the craw is that Dermot Crowe doesn't give one flying fcuk about Barney Horisk, or Paddy Hughes, or their families.
It's quite a gutter tactic to draw attention to a conversation that is already in full flow.
+1
Absolute gutter trash writing. No thought for the people of these families.
So they ignore the only fatality on an Irish sports pitch in an article about on field violence?
I'll ask the question again.
Was anyone brought to justice for killing Paddy Hughes?
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 25, 2018, 10:03:34 AM
Quote from: chieftain on September 25, 2018, 09:56:43 AM
Quote from: Puckoon on September 24, 2018, 09:31:02 PM
In addition, what frankly sticks in the craw is that Dermot Crowe doesn't give one flying fcuk about Barney Horisk, or Paddy Hughes, or their families.
It's quite a gutter tactic to draw attention to a conversation that is already in full flow.
+1
Absolute gutter trash writing. No thought for the people of these families.
So tbey ignore the only fatality on an Irish sports pitch in an article about on field violence?
Paul Mulhare died playing for Dublin in the National Hurling League in 1985.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/its-hard-to-believe-now-but-the-use-of-head-and-facial-protection-was-once-frowned-upon-36830829.html
In 1929 the Crossmaglen Rangers' Jamesy Kernan (uncle of Joe Kernan) died in hospital from injuries sustained in an on-field clash with Cavan Garda Jim Smith during an Ulster semi-final at Belturbet. Smith was charged with murder, but the case was dismissed.
Always heard my father talk of that case.
Quote from: pbat on September 25, 2018, 10:38:26 AM
In 1929 the Crossmaglen Rangers' Jamesy Kernan (uncle of Joe Kernan) died in hospital from injuries sustained in an on-field clash with Cavan Garda Jim Smith during an Ulster semi-final at Belturbet. Smith was charged with murder, but the case was dismissed.
Always heard my father talk of that case.
Some background http://www.hoganstand.com/forum/details/19476
The death of John Joe O'Reilly in 1952 was attributed to an injury he had suffered in a club game in Kildare earlier that year, from which he never properly recovered.
Quote from: Jinxy on September 25, 2018, 10:08:05 AM
I'll ask the question again.
Was anyone brought to justice for killing Paddy Hughes?
It was 1977 in Northern Ireland. A very different place than today.
Quote from: five points on September 25, 2018, 10:30:12 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 25, 2018, 10:03:34 AM
Quote from: chieftain on September 25, 2018, 09:56:43 AM
Quote from: Puckoon on September 24, 2018, 09:31:02 PM
In addition, what frankly sticks in the craw is that Dermot Crowe doesn't give one flying fcuk about Barney Horisk, or Paddy Hughes, or their families.
It's quite a gutter tactic to draw attention to a conversation that is already in full flow.
+1
Absolute gutter trash writing. No thought for the people of these families.
So tbey ignore the only fatality on an Irish sports pitch in an article about on field violence?
Paul Mulhare died playing for Dublin in the National Hurling League in 1985.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/its-hard-to-believe-now-but-the-use-of-head-and-facial-protection-was-once-frowned-upon-36830829.html
Accident.... Lots of people have dropped dead too.
Nobody else has died after being gutted by an opponent.
Quote from: Jinxy on September 25, 2018, 10:08:05 AM
I'll ask the question again.
Was anyone brought to justice for killing Paddy Hughes?
No.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 25, 2018, 01:02:06 PM
Quote from: five points on September 25, 2018, 10:30:12 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 25, 2018, 10:03:34 AM
Quote from: chieftain on September 25, 2018, 09:56:43 AM
Quote from: Puckoon on September 24, 2018, 09:31:02 PM
In addition, what frankly sticks in the craw is that Dermot Crowe doesn't give one flying fcuk about Barney Horisk, or Paddy Hughes, or their families.
It's quite a gutter tactic to draw attention to a conversation that is already in full flow.
+1
Absolute gutter trash writing. No thought for the people of these families.
So tbey ignore the only fatality on an Irish sports pitch in an article about on field violence?
Paul Mulhare died playing for Dublin in the National Hurling League in 1985.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/its-hard-to-believe-now-but-the-use-of-head-and-facial-protection-was-once-frowned-upon-36830829.html
Accident.... Lots of people have dropped dead too.
Nobody else has died after being gutted by an opponent.
Do you read only selective posts.......look up five points posts, ref Kearnan
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on September 23, 2018, 09:08:16 PM
Brolly has consistently hammered Tyrone in his columns in the Indo.
Com O'Rourke has been behind in ladling out the criticism of Tyrone football in his columns.
Recently Ewan McKenna has tackled Mickey Harte and issues relating to Sean Cavanagh.
Today Dermot Crowe goes even further with this article.....
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/remembering-the-tragic-death-of-a-tyrone-gaa-fan-at-a-minor-game-in-1977-and-where-violence-can-take-us-37345116.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/remembering-the-tragic-death-of-a-tyrone-gaa-fan-at-a-minor-game-in-1977-and-where-violence-can-take-us-37345116.html)
Wise up! Firstly, Tyrone made it to the AIF so they have a higher profile and will attract more coverage. Also, you'd have to imagine that as far as the media are concerned, Tyrone is the gift that keeps on giving. They don't need to go after them, Tyrone just keep scoring own goals:
- Not talking to RTE
- Narrowing pitches
- Questionable Tactics
- Players bringing out books with controversial passages
- Manager bringing out books with controversial passages
- Saying the rosary together
- Using gaelic football to promote political / religious views
- Boxing the heads of each other in the club championship
Every county goes through phases of attracting negative attention from the media. It's Tyrone's turn at the moment.
I'd expect Dermot Crowe to be doing his research on violence in Laois football for his latest article after he picture I seen earlier there. . .
Quote from: APM on September 25, 2018, 02:52:43 PM
- Saying the rosary together
You'd think RTÉ would be grand with this, just sayin'.
Quote from: APM on September 25, 2018, 02:52:43 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on September 23, 2018, 09:08:16 PM
Brolly has consistently hammered Tyrone in his columns in the Indo.
Com O'Rourke has been behind in ladling out the criticism of Tyrone football in his columns.
Recently Ewan McKenna has tackled Mickey Harte and issues relating to Sean Cavanagh.
Today Dermot Crowe goes even further with this article.....
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/remembering-the-tragic-death-of-a-tyrone-gaa-fan-at-a-minor-game-in-1977-and-where-violence-can-take-us-37345116.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/remembering-the-tragic-death-of-a-tyrone-gaa-fan-at-a-minor-game-in-1977-and-where-violence-can-take-us-37345116.html)
Wise up! Firstly, Tyrone made it to the AIF so they have a higher profile and will attract more coverage. Also, you'd have to imagine that as far as the media are concerned, Tyrone is the gift that keeps on giving. They don't need to go after them, Tyrone just keep scoring own goals:
- Not talking to RTE
- Narrowing pitches
- Questionable Tactics
- Players bringing out books with controversial passages
- Manager bringing out books with controversial passages
- Saying the rosary together
- Using gaelic football to promote political / religious views
- Boxing the heads of each other in the club championship
Every county goes through phases of attracting negative attention from the media. It's Tyrone's turn at the moment.
Since about 1986! :D
Quote from: square_ball on September 25, 2018, 03:02:51 PM
I'd expect Dermot Crowe to be doing his research on violence in Laois football for his latest article after he picture I seen earlier there. . .
Care to elaborate
Quote from: APM on September 25, 2018, 02:52:43 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on September 23, 2018, 09:08:16 PM
Brolly has consistently hammered Tyrone in his columns in the Indo.
Com O'Rourke has been behind in ladling out the criticism of Tyrone football in his columns.
Recently Ewan McKenna has tackled Mickey Harte and issues relating to Sean Cavanagh.
Today Dermot Crowe goes even further with this article.....
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/remembering-the-tragic-death-of-a-tyrone-gaa-fan-at-a-minor-game-in-1977-and-where-violence-can-take-us-37345116.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/remembering-the-tragic-death-of-a-tyrone-gaa-fan-at-a-minor-game-in-1977-and-where-violence-can-take-us-37345116.html)
Wise up! Firstly, Tyrone made it to the AIF so they have a higher profile and will attract more coverage. Also, you'd have to imagine that as far as the media are concerned, Tyrone is the gift that keeps on giving. They don't need to go after them, Tyrone just keep scoring own goals:
- Not talking to RTE
- Narrowing pitches
- Questionable Tactics
- Players bringing out books with controversial passages
- Manager bringing out books with controversial passages
- Saying the rosary together
- Using gaelic football to promote political / religious views
- Boxing the heads of each other in the club championship
Every county goes through phases of attracting negative attention from the media. It's Tyrone's turn at the moment.
Tyrone are quite quirky alright but most people do not care about them or any other county
Colm O'Rourke follows in with his Indo article..........
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/colm-orourke-tyrone-should-lose-the-persecution-complex-and-embrace-change-37368214.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/colm-orourke-tyrone-should-lose-the-persecution-complex-and-embrace-change-37368214.html)
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on October 02, 2018, 07:07:27 PM
Colm O'Rourke follows in with his Indo article..........
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/colm-orourke-tyrone-should-lose-the-persecution-complex-and-embrace-change-37368214.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/colm-orourke-tyrone-should-lose-the-persecution-complex-and-embrace-change-37368214.html)
Can't believe of all people Colm O'Rourke is lecturing? Need we bring up the 96 final? Canavan in the semi final. Then the rumours about Boylan and his magic medicine. Give us a break.
Very comprehensive bit from Spillane
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/pat-spillane-surrendering-september-to-give-incompetent-county-boards-time-to-run-off-games-was-a-serious-mistake-37372415.html
Tyrone doesn't have a copyright on violence and ill-discipline around GAA games, but they do have a history. There were All-Ireland club finals that we in Kerry remember less than fondly, involving Cookstown and Derrytresk of Tyrone and Finuge and Dromid of Kerry.
There was a very unsavoury All-Ireland U-21 semi-final involving Tyrone and Tipperary a few years ago after which Tipperary alleged that Tyrone players seemed to know the Christian names of the girlfriends and sisters of the Tipp lads.
Declan Bonner (left), when Donegal minor manager, mentioned after a game between the counties of how one of his players, whose father was very ill, heard all about it from Tyrone players.
And then there was the brawl between Armagh and Tyrone in this year's Ulster U-20 semi-final. That's a bit of a rap sheet and if Tyrone say they have no bigger problem that anyone else then they are in denial.
Sean issuing the photo of his face on social media didn't help anyone. Call me a cynic, but it wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that Sean's autobiography is out now and he needs to shift a few books, would it?
I was also annoyed by Peter Canavan's response to the coverage of the Cavanagh business, which was to accuse the media of anti-Tyrone bias. Christ, talk about having a siege mentality. It happened in Tyrone, Peter.
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In addition, what frankly sticks in the craw is that Dermot Crowe doesn't give one flying fcuk about Barney Horisk, or Paddy Hughes, or their families.
It's quite a gutter tactic to draw attention to a conversation that is already in full flow.
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Absolute gutter trash writing. No thought for the people of these families.
So they ignore the only fatality on an Irish sports pitch in an article about on field violence?
Jones Road 1921
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Brolly has consistently hammered Tyrone in his columns in the Indo.
Com O'Rourke has been behind in ladling out the criticism of Tyrone football in his columns.
Recently Ewan McKenna has tackled Mickey Harte and issues relating to Sean Cavanagh.
Today Dermot Crowe goes even further with this article.....
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/remembering-the-tragic-death-of-a-tyrone-gaa-fan-at-a-minor-game-in-1977-and-where-violence-can-take-us-37345116.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/remembering-the-tragic-death-of-a-tyrone-gaa-fan-at-a-minor-game-in-1977-and-where-violence-can-take-us-37345116.html)
Wise up! Firstly, Tyrone made it to the AIF so they have a higher profile and will attract more coverage. Also, you'd have to imagine that as far as the media are concerned, Tyrone is the gift that keeps on giving. They don't need to go after them, Tyrone just keep scoring own goals:
- Not talking to RTE
- Narrowing pitches
- Questionable Tactics
- Players bringing out books with controversial passages
- Manager bringing out books with controversial passages
- Saying the rosary together
- Using gaelic football to promote political / religious views
- Boxing the heads of each other in the club championship
Every county goes through phases of attracting negative attention from the media. It's Tyrone's turn at the moment.
Tyrone are quite quirky alright but most people do not care about them or any other county
My mother's family narrowed a field in East Tyrone. They also said the rosary together. My uncles fought each other on the way to school. My father wrote a controversial letter to the Irish News. They sang the Soldier's Song at the start of football matches (sometimes) and watched a Bishop throw in a ball in Dublin. They didn't talk to RTE either.