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I think the fallout from changing the venue of the JFC final between T***yreagh and Rock from Omagh to Dungannon shows that there needs to be an effort made by the county board for a venue in the east of the county to be brought up to standard with a seated stand and terracing to hold around 8-10,000 people along with a decent surface, adequate changing facilities etc along with floodlighting. At present many facilities in the east fall short somewhere on this meaning Omagh often gets tossed games its way when other venues could be more appropriate, for example was there any real need for Aghaloo and Derrylaughan to be dragged to Healy Park on Friday night instead of having their match as a curtain raiser to Coalisland/Clonoe today? They could have had a single match in Omagh on Friday night with a throw-in time of 8pm that could actually have started on time as the Killyclogher/Dromore game was never going to start at 8.30pm.

Who said a seated stand. Resurface dungannon and terrace thon far bank it would be dead on

Junior final in dungannon? I think thats pretty disrespectful and disgraceful having a county final there. Should be omagh. Whys the intermediate final put back?

What about the crowd they will be playing in front of now with senior semi on after it. Dungannon is a good place for a game crowd wise pitch could do with a bit of tlc all the same. Would have been worse to bring the senior semi to omagh next Friday night would it not

Did anyone see what Donnelly was lined for? Wind spoiled it somewhat. I don't think Rambo had a great game today. Was authoritive enough for any messing but was conned by the Clonoe forwards on at least two occasions. It's a tramps job though and anyone doing it needs to have some narcissistic personality traits.

I find it amusing the reaction of the Dromore fans who have slated the ref from Friday. Where was their morals of a referee destroying a teams annual efforts when their club's referee had a hissy fit of a refereeing performance?

Donnelly hit Magee a box on the mouth as Clonoe were setting up for a kick out Magee was running towards him and Donnelly seemed to hit him with his forearm or hand Magee to his credit stayed up it was the linesman who pulled it and it was rightly a red card for striking.
Donnelly was running the game at that stage and was a bad loss when he went off. Coalisland got a lot of handy frees but boy can Thornton hit a dead ball. Hampsey handled Dan well it was a good tussle between two big strong men Skeet was hardly in the game but it isn't easy when you're double marked all day every match. Decky Mc  Clure was clonoes best player again and o Neill at the back was very good too. Coalisland will have learned a lot from today and I think they will employ mc Nally in a different roll next week. Think Coalisland win the replay as they have the fresher legs now after 4 tough weeks for Clonoe

I missed it but heard it was harsh. You have said he hit him a box, forearm or a slap. Which one. Did you see?

I seen it he lead with the right hand and I'd say it was a box if you want to be pinicity about it bottom line is he stuck and was rightly sent off

Did anyone see what Donnelly was lined for? Wind spoiled it somewhat. I don't think Rambo had a great game today. Was authoritive enough for any messing but was conned by the Clonoe forwards on at least two occasions. It's a tramps job though and anyone doing it needs to have some narcissistic personality traits.

I find it amusing the reaction of the Dromore fans who have slated the ref from Friday. Where was their morals of a referee destroying a teams annual efforts when their club's referee had a hissy fit of a refereeing performance?

Donnelly hit Magee a box on the mouth as Clonoe were setting up for a kick out Magee was running towards him and Donnelly seemed to hit him with his forearm or hand Magee to his credit stayed up it was the linesman who pulled it and it was rightly a red card for striking.
Donnelly was running the game at that stage and was a bad loss when he went off. Coalisland got a lot of handy frees but boy can Thornton hit a dead ball. Hampsey handled Dan well it was a good tussle between two big strong men Skeet was hardly in the game but it isn't easy when you're double marked all day every match. Decky Mc  Clure was clonoes best player again and o Neill at the back was very good too. Coalisland will have learned a lot from today and I think they will employ mc Nally in a different roll next week. Think Coalisland win the replay as they have the fresher legs now after 4 tough weeks for Clonoe

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Ye wouldn't know there was 13 mins injury time here or that there was raised tempers towards the end either or that the ref was incompetent at his job.

good example of this was when conan grugan played a fair few mc kenna cup/league games in chf then come the big championship game against monaghan in clones he was threw into midfield against darrren hughes and dick clerkin. didnt go well and wasnt seen since,2014 think it was.

I get what u are saying about grugan but I'd a thought midfield was his natural position. Anyway he walked from the panel himself, prob knew it wasn't for him. Good players can play anywhere. One dimensional players won't cut it at senior inter county level. Monroe, mcgeary Brennan are a few that can play different positions. U have to patient and keep ure head down and take your chance when it comes. I still chuckle at the Clonoe players who walked that time. Stinking attitude.

For the record sparkly Donnelly got a raw deal the time he was dropped. He was Tyrones best player one year but maybe Harte had his reasons, I'm not sure.

That's the nature of county football, your needed one day but there's always somebody else willing to take your jersey the next

This opinion is incredibly arrogant. Here we have people criticising players for walking away from the county set up while praising those who hang about just to make up the numbers. I don't believe Kieran Mc Geary Rory Brennan or Johnny Munroe are better players than Conan Grugan but because he has decided that he needed time away to try to become a better player and needed regular competitive football he is being criticised. Is Conan Grugan better than Paudi Mc Nulty, Kieran Mc Geary, Aiden Mc Crory Richie Donnelly Barry Tierney... some will say he is others will say he isn't, just as Ardboe are glad Shay mc guigan and Coney left ,Eglish are glad the Mc Kennas left, Omagh are glad Conan Grugan left a set up which he obviously wasn't in love with to become club captain. Just because someone is on the county panel does not make them a better player than someone not on the county panel. Its all about opinions... Is Mc Curry better than Leo Meenan in 2012 or Eoin Mc Cusker in 2012. While you have your wee chuckle at the clonoe players who walked do you believe PJ Lavery or Collie Doris aren't county standard. Tyrone need every player of that level available for selection. Would it be possible that some of this may be Mickey Hartes fault

A wise man once told me anyone can manage a committed player but only the great managers can bring the talented less committed players along with the rest, is mickey too arrogant to try to bring everyone with him or is he right...
I feel like Fuzzman asking all these silly questions

Maybe I should clarify the remark on Clonoe players leaving that time. It was s few weeks before the first round of Ulster, that's what made it so bad. U don't walk out on your team just because u aren't getting a start not at that time of year.

Are pj and Coly good enough for Tyrone. Pj yes fringe player. Colly not good enough. To slow. Grt club player thou.

Some one mentioned Barry tierney was " incredible" for Omagh at chb  but played out of position in the corner and tore to shreds against kerry. Barry is good squad player at the minute hopefully he keeps improving but he is prone to doing stupid mistakes. But Harte sees something in him and good luck Barry

Big Quinn was tryed out at full forward line and no good.
Contrary to what a few people think this is top end county football here. We are Ulster champs and hartes record speaks for itself.Mickey def doesn't have the time to give coney, crugan,pj and co cuddles  after training if they aren't going well. You either knuckle down do what your told and try your best. If it's good enough fair play and ure kept. If it's not, your out and someone else is in. That's what makes Harte sucessful.Maybe Jim gavin, Cody, mcguiness etc do it different but I doubt it.

You talk some thrash.

I do believe they were. Clonoe struggled yesterday and bar the free taking expertise of Danny Mcnult they were dead and buried. Carmen had numerous different scorers on the day. Team performance! That is my opinion.

It may be your opinion but it's wrong.

The 3 goals came from play, Magee mc aliskey and lynch all scored from play. Mc Clure bosses mf with his high fielding Brady in Feb was Brilliant ans was o Neill in the corner who kept penrose quiet.
It is true carrickmore played mighty football and in a way was unfair on them to loose but clonoe hunger was greater on the day that was the real difference.
Carrickmore probably should have started mc Gurk if not brought him on earlier, also loosing Daly before half time was a big blow to them.

I'd say now you're looking at a Coalisland killyclogher co final. I tip killyclogher to win the o Neill cup this year.

Devastating for the Carmen lads! The better team in many people's opinion, struggled to cope with mc clures fielding ability and long ball in to mc nulty. McNulty, McClure and Bubba Loughran surely worth county trials next year!

Carrickmore played to good to loose really but the will to win in the Clonoe team is to be admired a team like that is hard to put away. Difficult one next day out fianna up against nothing today will be fresh and ready for a battle

Just a wee aside, I heard the Omagh Carmen u13 game during the week was marred by a Carrickmore supporter who decided he should go onto the pitch during the game to try a little bit of intimidation towards the ref. Any truth?

You reckon for he made a bit of a mayo Mick outta himsel

Aghaloo in IFC semi finals never seen that one coming. They certainly have done it the hard way beating some fancied teams along the way.

It might have been stated on here before but £72 a ticket not much thought for austerity here. Just proves this is our greatest footballing Sunday of the year and it's turning into a corporate event more and more each year. I was offered a ticket needless to say I turned it down couldn't afford it and all that goes along with it.

Keano's right.We can't consider ourselves to be a big club and get humiliated 7 nil by anyone.Mindsets (including those who think our manager is delivering when he clearly isn't) have to change.We must think like a big club and deliver like one.

Tony you're bleeting on about how the manager is not delivering from he has come in barring the humiliation the other night what has he not delivered on? I'll be interested to know.

As an avid football follower.... I find it hard to believe how fellow Gaels can't always give players/clubs the credit that they deserve.  Scanning over the last few pages there is a lot of negative criticism swung in the direction of the Carrickmore club in particular. Following club football for the best part of 40years I have to be very honest and say that pride courage and never say die attitude that they have applied in that time can only be admired and respected as an onlooker. No wonder they hold the record for the most championships in Tyrone.. They play with a belief and confidence that winning is well with in their capabilities. I think if other teams/supporters had their belief they would be sitting challenging the roll of honour.... Instead of begrudging and waiting for it to happen.... So Carmen be proud of your tradition your venue and your belief in a never say die attitude...

Go home Cheltenham your drunk. You dig at people yet can't take anyone else's opinions

Carrickmore posters still believe they have a right to be at the top based on history....

That's like the Liverpool friends I have

Carrickmore have arguably the poorest senior team they have had in years. Clonoe by 7 or 8. Maybe more, depends if Conor "Referee" Gormley can dictate the game or not without the whistle

I think your the one who is a wee bit drunk here.  What opinions of others can i not take?  I am the one who gave an opinion and that others didn't like it which they are entitled to do, but i have based my opinion on my own views and experiences and not what other people say.

I also don't think Carrickmore have the right to be top based on our history but i also don't think we should be lambasted due to our history.  The problem with the success carrickmore had is that a lot of people hate us. I wish it wasn't that way.  It would be great to enjoy our history without seeing the envy of the people around us.

We may have the poorest senior team we have had years and Clonoe may beat us by 7 or 8 points but on the flip side of the coin this Clonoe team or no big shakes either.  That is why i think we have a great chance of beating them.  Seams like Clonoe are making the excuses already.  Feared of a 35 year man showing them up 

may the best team win

What happens if clonoes 36 year olds come out victorious? Dunno what age has to do with anything. One thing for certain tomorrow's game will be played in good spirits with plenty of hard physical challenges don't know who will win these games are always close Clonoe have been getting the better of carrickmore in recent championship tussles if I mind right but as stated before history means nothing.

It will be a lot quieter on here next week. Id say cheltenham will disappear just as quickly as he appeared...
'16 for 16... nah don't think so

What is this 16 for 16 craic you talk about

What about last year in pomeroy when Carrickmore showed absolutely no heart for a battle. Does that make them spineless ?
Actually since you're such an expert on the subject when was the last time the brave men of Carmen won a close championship game against a good team

Im keen to hear an answer to this question, for the life of me I can't remember the last time.

The moy match a few years ago?
Do you guys think carrickmores reputation precedes them? I wouldn't rule out any team with players like colm mc Gurk ruairi Loughran mickey Slane Marty penrose mark Donnelly in their side all battle hardened seasoned campaigners with more medals in their pockets than some posters on here.