Brexit.

[RedHand88]

The one point this whole Brexit thing has reinforced for me, is how even when they are in a minority unionism and the British State continues to diminish the Irish identity of 45% of NI. And worse still we let it.

Well, if the Shinners would bother their hole to go to Westminster and take the position of "we'll vote the opposite of whatever the DUP votes to (mostly) nullify their veto", then maybe things could inch forward.

Completely pointless. The second sinn Fein vote on something in Wesrminister then you'd havr 10 or 20 labour votes swinging the other way. They couldn't bear the headlines saying Irish republicans swung a commons vote.

[seafoid]

The one point this whole Brexit thing has reinforced for me, is how even when they are in a minority unionism and the British State continues to diminish the Irish identity of 45% of NI. And worse still we let it.

Well, if the Shinners would bother their hole to go to Westminster and take the position of "we'll vote the opposite of whatever the DUP votes to (mostly) nullify their veto", then maybe things could inch forward.

No, I don' think so. It would give the Telegraph an opportunity to rant and call on people to oppose the Shinners.

The Unionists have chosen the wrong horse (and I don't mean Arlene)

[imtommygunn]

It isn't about economics to the hardliners.

I think sf to be fair to then are better saying nothing. The dup are doing their job better than they ever could.

[seafoid]

It isn't about economics to the hardliners.

I think sf to be fair to then are better saying nothing. The dup are doing their job better than they ever could.

The DUP remind me of the people who fought with the Nazis in WW2. The ERG don't care about peace in NI and are fanatical. The DUP are innocents. 
At this level there is no such thing as loyalty. If there is a hard Brexit NI will be shafted economically.  Rees Mogg does not care about NI.
Once people see that the DUP cost them say 10% of their wages the party will  be destroyed. Brexit is about allocating losses and NI is very vulnerable.
NI is already a basket case with huge numbers of people dependent on social transfers that may no longer be feasible if the NHS is being dismantled, for example.
It is also like FF pre 2008. No idea of the downside risks.

[Milltown Row2]

Itis hatred - pure and simple. There is no rationale behind it.

None of them want to be seen to give an inch, thats been their goal from the outset, and they are hateful cnuts on top of that...Brexit is great for the DUP as it meant less coverage of their own fcuk ups recently.  They can look to the hard brexiteers in the Tories as fighting the good cause and its all about them

Had the Shinners went publically for a leave vote then the DUP would have went the other way

cue Frank 

[naka]

It isn't about economics to the hardliners.

I think sf to be fair to then are better saying nothing. The dup are doing their job better than they ever could.

nail on the head
the shinners are better keeping quiet on this one

[imtommygunn]

It isn't about economics to the hardliners.

I think sf to be fair to then are better saying nothing. The dup are doing their job better than they ever could.

nail on the head
the shinners are better keeping quiet on this one

Hearing rumours rhi going to get ugly for sf so less said currently the better.

I saw someone commending the dup negotiating on twitter one day. They have the negotiating ability of a 2 year old - no and that is it.

My dad told me years ago you couldn't underestimate the hatred in hardline unionist community for ireland and nationalists.  This and things like calling the Pope the antichrist show this hasn't changed at all.

[seafoid]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/oct/23/sadiq-khan-eu-labour-brexit

[Rossfan]

https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2018/1023/1006113-brexit/

[Applesisapples]

The one point this whole Brexit thing has reinforced for me, is how even when they are in a minority unionism and the British State continues to diminish the Irish identity of 45% of NI. And worse still we let it.

Well, if the Shinners would bother their hole to go to Westminster and take the position of "we'll vote the opposite of whatever the DUP votes to (mostly) nullify their veto", then maybe things could inch forward.

Bullshit, why would they take their seats in a foreign parliament and swear allegiance to the Queen?

[trailer]

The one point this whole Brexit thing has reinforced for me, is how even when they are in a minority unionism and the British State continues to diminish the Irish identity of 45% of NI. And worse still we let it.

Well, if the Shinners would bother their hole to go to Westminster and take the position of "we'll vote the opposite of whatever the DUP votes to (mostly) nullify their veto", then maybe things could inch forward.

Bullshit, why would they take their seats in a foreign parliament and swear allegiance to the Queen?

Why stand for election then?

[screenexile]

The one point this whole Brexit thing has reinforced for me, is how even when they are in a minority unionism and the British State continues to diminish the Irish identity of 45% of NI. And worse still we let it.

Well, if the Shinners would bother their hole to go to Westminster and take the position of "we'll vote the opposite of whatever the DUP votes to (mostly) nullify their veto", then maybe things could inch forward.

Bullshit, why would they take their seats in a foreign parliament and swear allegiance to the Queen?

Why stand for election then?

So themmuns don't get in!!

[seafoid]

The one point this whole Brexit thing has reinforced for me, is how even when they are in a minority unionism and the British State continues to diminish the Irish identity of 45% of NI. And worse still we let it.

Well, if the Shinners would bother their hole to go to Westminster and take the position of "we'll vote the opposite of whatever the DUP votes to (mostly) nullify their veto", then maybe things could inch forward.

Bullshit, why would they take their seats in a foreign parliament and swear allegiance to the Queen?

Cos Labour end up just 2 seats from an outright majority and want a united Ireland

[red hander]

It isn't about economics to the hardliners.

I think sf to be fair to then are better saying nothing. The dup are doing their job better than they ever could.

nail on the head
the shinners are better keeping quiet on this one

"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." Napoleon

[Rossfan]

Remind me again how Napoleon got on.......



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