GAA Response to Coronavirus

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Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Blowitupref on September 02, 2020, 01:17:08 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 02, 2020, 11:00:34 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 01, 2020, 10:49:28 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 01, 2020, 09:58:41 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 01, 2020, 07:21:51 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 01, 2020, 07:14:13 PM
They seeked logic in a arrogant way, calling the decision ridiculous, when it was NPET who had the evidence and not the GAA. They might have got a reply had they went about it better.

Got no reply so far and Dr Glynn said he would meet with them and I doubt he'll tell them to shut up. GAA was left confused by the decisions and had to asked was it ok to allow parents at underage games. Was doing that arrogant also?

Other sports managed to ask that question without making demands

Demands such as?


A meeting with NEPHAT and to see the underlying analysis. Keep up please.

Their firsr call should have been to other sports bodies to organise a united front.

Wasn't a demand. The statement clearly states, the association issued an invitation to Dr Glynn to meet with its Covid Advisory Group.

Demand, invitation. Its the same thing. They pushed back where others didn't. And crucially it didn't work. It was a bad look.

Taylor

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 02, 2020, 05:24:22 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 02, 2020, 01:17:08 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 02, 2020, 11:00:34 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 01, 2020, 10:49:28 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 01, 2020, 09:58:41 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 01, 2020, 07:21:51 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 01, 2020, 07:14:13 PM
They seeked logic in a arrogant way, calling the decision ridiculous, when it was NPET who had the evidence and not the GAA. They might have got a reply had they went about it better.

Got no reply so far and Dr Glynn said he would meet with them and I doubt he'll tell them to shut up. GAA was left confused by the decisions and had to asked was it ok to allow parents at underage games. Was doing that arrogant also?

Other sports managed to ask that question without making demands

Demands such as?


A meeting with NEPHAT and to see the underlying analysis. Keep up please.

Their firsr call should have been to other sports bodies to organise a united front.

Wasn't a demand. The statement clearly states, the association issued an invitation to Dr Glynn to meet with its Covid Advisory Group.

Demand, invitation. Its the same thing. They pushed back where others didn't. And crucially it didn't work. It was a bad look.

It clearly isnt the same thing.

Dont let the lies get in the way of trying to justify your agenda

Cunny Funt

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 02, 2020, 05:24:22 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 02, 2020, 01:17:08 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 02, 2020, 11:00:34 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 01, 2020, 10:49:28 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 01, 2020, 09:58:41 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 01, 2020, 07:21:51 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 01, 2020, 07:14:13 PM
They seeked logic in a arrogant way, calling the decision ridiculous, when it was NPET who had the evidence and not the GAA. They might have got a reply had they went about it better.

Got no reply so far and Dr Glynn said he would meet with them and I doubt he'll tell them to shut up. GAA was left confused by the decisions and had to asked was it ok to allow parents at underage games. Was doing that arrogant also?

Other sports managed to ask that question without making demands

Demands such as?


A meeting with NEPHAT and to see the underlying analysis. Keep up please.

Their firsr call should have been to other sports bodies to organise a united front.

Wasn't a demand. The statement clearly states, the association issued an invitation to Dr Glynn to meet with its Covid Advisory Group.

Demand, invitation. Its the same thing. They pushed back where others didn't. And crucially it didn't work. It was a bad look.

Not the same. The only thing that HQ GAA did wrong was using social media for such an invitation.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Taylor on September 02, 2020, 05:30:15 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 02, 2020, 05:24:22 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 02, 2020, 01:17:08 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 02, 2020, 11:00:34 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 01, 2020, 10:49:28 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 01, 2020, 09:58:41 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 01, 2020, 07:21:51 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 01, 2020, 07:14:13 PM
They seeked logic in a arrogant way, calling the decision ridiculous, when it was NPET who had the evidence and not the GAA. They might have got a reply had they went about it better.

Got no reply so far and Dr Glynn said he would meet with them and I doubt he'll tell them to shut up. GAA was left confused by the decisions and had to asked was it ok to allow parents at underage games. Was doing that arrogant also?

Other sports managed to ask that question without making demands

Demands such as?


A meeting with NEPHAT and to see the underlying analysis. Keep up please.

Their firsr call should have been to other sports bodies to organise a united front.

Wasn't a demand. The statement clearly states, the association issued an invitation to Dr Glynn to meet with its Covid Advisory Group.

Demand, invitation. Its the same thing. They pushed back where others didn't. And crucially it didn't work. It was a bad look.

It clearly isnt the same thing.

Dont let the lies get in the way of trying to justify your agenda

Agenda? Go on...

sid waddell

Quote from: Cunny Funt on September 02, 2020, 05:44:40 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 02, 2020, 05:24:22 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 02, 2020, 01:17:08 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 02, 2020, 11:00:34 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 01, 2020, 10:49:28 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 01, 2020, 09:58:41 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 01, 2020, 07:21:51 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 01, 2020, 07:14:13 PM
They seeked logic in a arrogant way, calling the decision ridiculous, when it was NPET who had the evidence and not the GAA. They might have got a reply had they went about it better.

Got no reply so far and Dr Glynn said he would meet with them and I doubt he'll tell them to shut up. GAA was left confused by the decisions and had to asked was it ok to allow parents at underage games. Was doing that arrogant also?

Other sports managed to ask that question without making demands

Demands such as?


A meeting with NEPHAT and to see the underlying analysis. Keep up please.

Their firsr call should have been to other sports bodies to organise a united front.

Wasn't a demand. The statement clearly states, the association issued an invitation to Dr Glynn to meet with its Covid Advisory Group.

Demand, invitation. Its the same thing. They pushed back where others didn't. And crucially it didn't work. It was a bad look.

Not the same. The only thing that HQ GAA did wrong was using social media for such an invitation.
That's a pretty serious mistake

In a pandemic, if an organisation has dirty laundry they want to air, it's a bad idea to do it in public, because it is not only very bad publicity for the organisation that does so, but it promotes a culture of breaking of the rules in society at large - and especially when it comes from an organisation so influential as the GAA

Taylor

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 02, 2020, 08:55:33 PM
Quote from: Taylor on September 02, 2020, 05:30:15 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 02, 2020, 05:24:22 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 02, 2020, 01:17:08 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 02, 2020, 11:00:34 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 01, 2020, 10:49:28 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 01, 2020, 09:58:41 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 01, 2020, 07:21:51 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 01, 2020, 07:14:13 PM
They seeked logic in a arrogant way, calling the decision ridiculous, when it was NPET who had the evidence and not the GAA. They might have got a reply had they went about it better.

Got no reply so far and Dr Glynn said he would meet with them and I doubt he'll tell them to shut up. GAA was left confused by the decisions and had to asked was it ok to allow parents at underage games. Was doing that arrogant also?

Other sports managed to ask that question without making demands

Demands such as?


A meeting with NEPHAT and to see the underlying analysis. Keep up please.

Their firsr call should have been to other sports bodies to organise a united front.

Wasn't a demand. The statement clearly states, the association issued an invitation to Dr Glynn to meet with its Covid Advisory Group.

Demand, invitation. Its the same thing. They pushed back where others didn't. And crucially it didn't work. It was a bad look.

It clearly isnt the same thing.

Dont let the lies get in the way of trying to justify your agenda

Agenda? Go on...

So have we confirmed they arent the same thing?

Agenda - all things GAH = bad

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Taylor on September 03, 2020, 12:23:08 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 02, 2020, 08:55:33 PM
Quote from: Taylor on September 02, 2020, 05:30:15 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 02, 2020, 05:24:22 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 02, 2020, 01:17:08 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 02, 2020, 11:00:34 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 01, 2020, 10:49:28 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 01, 2020, 09:58:41 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 01, 2020, 07:21:51 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 01, 2020, 07:14:13 PM
They seeked logic in a arrogant way, calling the decision ridiculous, when it was NPET who had the evidence and not the GAA. They might have got a reply had they went about it better.

Got no reply so far and Dr Glynn said he would meet with them and I doubt he'll tell them to shut up. GAA was left confused by the decisions and had to asked was it ok to allow parents at underage games. Was doing that arrogant also?

Other sports managed to ask that question without making demands

Demands such as?


A meeting with NEPHAT and to see the underlying analysis. Keep up please.

Their firsr call should have been to other sports bodies to organise a united front.

Wasn't a demand. The statement clearly states, the association issued an invitation to Dr Glynn to meet with its Covid Advisory Group.

Demand, invitation. Its the same thing. They pushed back where others didn't. And crucially it didn't work. It was a bad look.

It clearly isnt the same thing.

Dont let the lies get in the way of trying to justify your agenda

Agenda? Go on...

So have we confirmed they arent the same thing?

Agenda - all things GAH = bad

Thats demeaning.

Cunny Funt

Quote from: sid waddell on September 02, 2020, 09:29:54 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on September 02, 2020, 05:44:40 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 02, 2020, 05:24:22 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 02, 2020, 01:17:08 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 02, 2020, 11:00:34 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 01, 2020, 10:49:28 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 01, 2020, 09:58:41 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 01, 2020, 07:21:51 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 01, 2020, 07:14:13 PM
They seeked logic in a arrogant way, calling the decision ridiculous, when it was NPET who had the evidence and not the GAA. They might have got a reply had they went about it better.

Got no reply so far and Dr Glynn said he would meet with them and I doubt he'll tell them to shut up. GAA was left confused by the decisions and had to asked was it ok to allow parents at underage games. Was doing that arrogant also?

Other sports managed to ask that question without making demands

Demands such as?


A meeting with NEPHAT and to see the underlying analysis. Keep up please.

Their firsr call should have been to other sports bodies to organise a united front.

Wasn't a demand. The statement clearly states, the association issued an invitation to Dr Glynn to meet with its Covid Advisory Group.

Demand, invitation. Its the same thing. They pushed back where others didn't. And crucially it didn't work. It was a bad look.

Not the same. The only thing that HQ GAA did wrong was using social media for such an invitation.
That's a pretty serious mistake

In a pandemic, if an organisation has dirty laundry they want to air, it's a bad idea to do it in public, because it is not only very bad publicity for the organisation that does so, but it promotes a culture of breaking of the rules in society at large - and especially when it comes from an organisation so influential as the GAA

Dirty laundry? Clarity was sought and Stephen Donnelly has since admitted that the new restrictions had cause confusion.

Such questions are asked in private. A mistake was to use social media but not a serious mistake.  Allowing clusters break out in poorly controlled indoor settings and the way the virus was allowed spread like wild fire during the peak in nursing homes was pretty serious mistakes.

sid waddell

Quote from: Cunny Funt on September 03, 2020, 01:49:45 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on September 02, 2020, 09:29:54 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on September 02, 2020, 05:44:40 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 02, 2020, 05:24:22 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 02, 2020, 01:17:08 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 02, 2020, 11:00:34 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 01, 2020, 10:49:28 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 01, 2020, 09:58:41 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 01, 2020, 07:21:51 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 01, 2020, 07:14:13 PM
They seeked logic in a arrogant way, calling the decision ridiculous, when it was NPET who had the evidence and not the GAA. They might have got a reply had they went about it better.

Got no reply so far and Dr Glynn said he would meet with them and I doubt he'll tell them to shut up. GAA was left confused by the decisions and had to asked was it ok to allow parents at underage games. Was doing that arrogant also?

Other sports managed to ask that question without making demands

Demands such as?


A meeting with NEPHAT and to see the underlying analysis. Keep up please.

Their firsr call should have been to other sports bodies to organise a united front.

Wasn't a demand. The statement clearly states, the association issued an invitation to Dr Glynn to meet with its Covid Advisory Group.

Demand, invitation. Its the same thing. They pushed back where others didn't. And crucially it didn't work. It was a bad look.

Not the same. The only thing that HQ GAA did wrong was using social media for such an invitation.
That's a pretty serious mistake

In a pandemic, if an organisation has dirty laundry they want to air, it's a bad idea to do it in public, because it is not only very bad publicity for the organisation that does so, but it promotes a culture of breaking of the rules in society at large - and especially when it comes from an organisation so influential as the GAA

Dirty laundry? Clarity was sought and Stephen Donnelly has since admitted that the new restrictions had cause confusion.

Such questions are asked in private. A mistake was to use social media but not a serious mistake.  Allowing clusters break out in poorly controlled indoor settings and the way the virus was allowed spread like wild fire during the peak in nursing homes was pretty serious mistakes.
The GAA asked the questions and pointed the fingers in public unfortunately, and several prominent GAA pundits jumped on the bandwagon

Stuff like that has a negative knock on effect in terms of public willingness to comply with restrictions

Of course mistakes were made in the initial wave - therefore it's all the more baffling that people would be questioning a cautious approach now so that more mistakes are not made

We saw this when the lockdown was enforced on Kildare - blowhards all over the place complaining about it

Yet the decision to enforce that lockdown on Kildare was proven entirely correct


Taylor

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 03, 2020, 01:22:50 PM
Quote from: Taylor on September 03, 2020, 12:23:08 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 02, 2020, 08:55:33 PM
Quote from: Taylor on September 02, 2020, 05:30:15 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 02, 2020, 05:24:22 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 02, 2020, 01:17:08 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 02, 2020, 11:00:34 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 01, 2020, 10:49:28 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 01, 2020, 09:58:41 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 01, 2020, 07:21:51 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 01, 2020, 07:14:13 PM
They seeked logic in a arrogant way, calling the decision ridiculous, when it was NPET who had the evidence and not the GAA. They might have got a reply had they went about it better.

Got no reply so far and Dr Glynn said he would meet with them and I doubt he'll tell them to shut up. GAA was left confused by the decisions and had to asked was it ok to allow parents at underage games. Was doing that arrogant also?

Other sports managed to ask that question without making demands

Demands such as?


A meeting with NEPHAT and to see the underlying analysis. Keep up please.

Their firsr call should have been to other sports bodies to organise a united front.

Wasn't a demand. The statement clearly states, the association issued an invitation to Dr Glynn to meet with its Covid Advisory Group.

Demand, invitation. Its the same thing. They pushed back where others didn't. And crucially it didn't work. It was a bad look.

It clearly isnt the same thing.

Dont let the lies get in the way of trying to justify your agenda

Agenda? Go on...

So have we confirmed they arent the same thing?

Agenda - all things GAH = bad

Thats demeaning.

For who?

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Taylor on September 03, 2020, 02:13:21 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 03, 2020, 01:22:50 PM
Quote from: Taylor on September 03, 2020, 12:23:08 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 02, 2020, 08:55:33 PM
Quote from: Taylor on September 02, 2020, 05:30:15 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 02, 2020, 05:24:22 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 02, 2020, 01:17:08 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 02, 2020, 11:00:34 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 01, 2020, 10:49:28 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 01, 2020, 09:58:41 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on September 01, 2020, 07:21:51 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on September 01, 2020, 07:14:13 PM
They seeked logic in a arrogant way, calling the decision ridiculous, when it was NPET who had the evidence and not the GAA. They might have got a reply had they went about it better.

Got no reply so far and Dr Glynn said he would meet with them and I doubt he'll tell them to shut up. GAA was left confused by the decisions and had to asked was it ok to allow parents at underage games. Was doing that arrogant also?

Other sports managed to ask that question without making demands

Demands such as?


A meeting with NEPHAT and to see the underlying analysis. Keep up please.

Their firsr call should have been to other sports bodies to organise a united front.

Wasn't a demand. The statement clearly states, the association issued an invitation to Dr Glynn to meet with its Covid Advisory Group.

Demand, invitation. Its the same thing. They pushed back where others didn't. And crucially it didn't work. It was a bad look.

It clearly isnt the same thing.

Dont let the lies get in the way of trying to justify your agenda

Agenda? Go on...

So have we confirmed they arent the same thing?

Agenda - all things GAH = bad

Thats demeaning.

For who?

You. That was an easy one.

If we can't discuss the GAA whats the point of the forum?

Why jump on me versus the dozens of posters raising questions?

Cunny Funt

Quote from: sid waddell on September 03, 2020, 01:56:55 PM
The GAA asked the questions and pointed the fingers in public unfortunately, and several prominent GAA pundits jumped on the bandwagon

Stuff like that has a negative knock on effect in terms of public willingness to comply with restrictions

Of course mistakes were made in the initial wave - therefore it's all the more baffling that people would be questioning a cautious approach now so that more mistakes are not made

We saw this when the lockdown was enforced on Kildare - blowhards all over the place complaining about it

Yet the decision to enforce that lockdown on Kildare was proven entirely correct

I think most would agree that such bandwagon jumping wouldn't have happened at all if the statement was given in private instead of the platform for all to see on social media.

Debatable what they did with Kildare was entirely correct as parts of Kildare many miles from the indoor outbreaks had low number of cases during the restrictions but businesses there was punished due to the mistakes of others.

Going by Leo Varadkar recent comments i think if he was still An Taoiseach at least 200 would be allowed at outdoor sports and "wet" under strict restrictions would be open right now. Instead we have a cautious An Taoiseach who chose to take steps back than forward. His road map for living with virus to be published soon and it will be interesting to see will he take on board the opinions of others in the Dáil or stick with his cautious approach.


Rossfan

The whole Cabinet decides those things I imagine, not just the Taoiseach??
Leo seems to be taking on the Barry Cowen role of giving out about Government decisions.
At least Cowen was only part of Confidence/Supply not the Tánaiste.
Has there been or is there to be a formal decision by GAA to go ahead with Inter County as planned?
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Blowitupref

Quote from: Rossfan on September 03, 2020, 03:32:31 PM
The whole Cabinet decides those things I imagine, not just theTaoiseach ??
Leo seems to be taking on the Barry Cowen role of giving out about Government decisions.
At least Cowen was only part of Confidence/Supply not the Tánaiste.
Has there been or is there to be a formal decision by GAA to go ahead with Inter County as planned?

Taoiseach and minster of Health have the biggest influence on the final decisions, taking heed more of NPHET than the opposition. No fan of Leo but he's playing a blinder, if Martin signs off on lifting current restrictions in place on September 13th the praise will go towards Leo and Co for the pressure they applied, if he decides to kick the can further down the road Martin will look even more cautious.

The GAA i can imagine have plans in place ready to publish but playing a waiting game to see what new rules this government will put in place.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

seafoid

In England to date Soccer and Rubby have been played in front of no fans. And these are hard core capitalist outfits. There is no way that GAA intercounty matches are going to to have spectators unless the Premier League and the RFU come up with something first.
So this means it is tricky. On the one hand it would be a pity not to have a 2020 all Ireland. On the other hand with no fans what is the point?
In England some clubs want all matches to be relevised if fans are excuded. Imagine RTE being asked to do the same.