Down Club Hurling & Football

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johnnycool

Quote from: toby47 on October 16, 2023, 02:42:50 PM
Quote from: SticksandStones on October 16, 2023, 02:36:33 PMSo in support of Paul, they got another ref???

That's what I more less took from it?

'We are not happy with what Kilcoo done at all, but we bent over for them' would have been a shorter and easier read statement.




I think they need to clarify what happened between "Saturday late morning and afternoon"!!!

Based on the rest of their steadfastness towards Faloon up to that point it can only be assumed he stepped down but even that doesn't make sense or why would Gough then accept the appointment then feel he had to withdraw on the Sunday morning.

This statement leaves more unanswered questions than answers.

Gaelforce123

#41701
If you are going to release a time line of events dont leave out the most important time and vaguely mention that events that were becoming difficult to control. A good opportunity to put the record straight wasted.
 They did highlight their disagreement with Kilcoo getting to appeal an official but by leaving out what happened the rest of Saturday then questions remain...

Did Faloon ask for guarantees he could not get?
Did County Football Management makes threats?
Did Kilcoo club treat to pull out of game?
What events lead to Paul no longer refereeing the game?

Maurice Moss

Forgot to mention previously but congratulations to our neighbours Liatroim on winning the intermediate final over the weekend.

Always like to see the Fontenoys doing well.

The Trap

If the game was not on TG4 would the county board have been stronger?
Agree that the statement leaves a lot of unanswered questions.
On the match itself Kilcoo were miles ahead. Paul Faloon would have done well to make the difference!

upandwin

Quote from: Johnnysboys on October 15, 2023, 07:06:32 PMThank god for Kilcoo
Thank god for McCorry and Adams having no plan and costing a fortune.
Thank god we don't have to listen to the noisy neighbours slabbering for the foreseeable..
This game should never have gone ahead and the referee and his assistants should hang their heads in shame. At least our club ref has the good sense to say no. We as a county struggle on a yearly basis to recruit referees and this shambles won't ease the recruitment process for next season.

This the same ref who held your club to ransom over an operation earlier in the year? Some morals alright that man. Heard he threatened to join Burren if CPN didn't sort his leg. We wouldn't take him, we've enough people with no clue without adding that to the mixture.

Nanderson

Hearing more rumours about why Paul stood down and I would hope to God they weren't true

johnnycool

Quote from: Nanderson on October 16, 2023, 04:23:45 PMHearing more rumours about why Paul stood down and I would hope to God they weren't true

CB couldn't guarantee his safety?

I find that quite staggering if true.

quit yo jibbajabba

All sounding a bit sinister tbh.

Game of football end of the day

Nanderson

Quote from: johnnycool on October 16, 2023, 04:51:00 PM
Quote from: Nanderson on October 16, 2023, 04:23:45 PMHearing more rumours about why Paul stood down and I would hope to God they weren't true

CB couldn't guarantee his safety?

I find that quite staggering if true.
Let's just say he would have needed to make sure his home insurance was up to date

forevergreen

Quote from: Nanderson on October 16, 2023, 06:05:49 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on October 16, 2023, 04:51:00 PM
Quote from: Nanderson on October 16, 2023, 04:23:45 PMHearing more rumours about why Paul stood down and I would hope to God they weren't true

CB couldn't guarantee his safety?

If true then their a bigger bunch of scum bags than we ever thought

I find that quite staggering if true.
Let's just say he would have needed to make sure his home insurance was up to date

Cuan12

What happened over the weekend is the stuff of fiction writers.We have our county champions now dictating who officiates their games for some contrived made up reasons, had this been the case in the eighties and nineties I know of two teams that wouldn't have taken the field when certain refs were appointed.
So from a Down supporter this has opened a can of worms, a few unanswered questions remain.
1. What was the basis of Kilcoo s protest
2. Was there any pressure put on the county executive to replace Paul Faloon from another source as it is rumoured there was from a member of the senior management team
3.Who was making all the phone calls in search of an alternative referee and was this search started because our county final was on national TV
Had this final not involved Kilcoo , Paul Faloon would have refereed the match regardless of any objection.
It's sad that a team that has distinguished itself on the field should resort to shameful actions of manipulating  who referees their matches.
They certainly didn't need to on yesterdays showing but maybe they weren't leaving anything to chance.
Lastly we needed a leader yesterday and our county chairman was no where to be seen or heard from, hopefully the next chairman or chairperson is more capable.
What a mess!!
The fallout of this may be considerable.

sdg

Quote from: Cuan12 on October 16, 2023, 07:23:56 PMWhat happened over the weekend is the stuff of fiction writers.We have our county champions now dictating who officiates their games for some contrived made up reasons, had this been the case in the eighties and nineties I know of two teams that wouldn't have taken the field when certain refs were appointed.
So from a Down supporter this has opened a can of worms, a few unanswered questions remain.
1. What was the basis of Kilcoo s protest
2. Was there any pressure put on the county executive to replace Paul Faloon from another source as it is rumoured there was from a member of the senior management team
3.Who was making all the phone calls in search of an alternative referee and was this search started because our county final was on national TV
Had this final not involved Kilcoo , Paul Faloon would have refereed the match regardless of any objection.
It's sad that a team that has distinguished itself on the field should resort to shameful actions of manipulating  who referees their matches.
They certainly didn't need to on yesterdays showing but maybe they weren't leaving anything to chance.
Lastly we needed a leader yesterday and our county chairman was no where to be seen or heard from, hopefully the next chairman or chairperson is more capable.
What a mess!!
The fallout of this may be considerable.


Agree with this where is the Co chairman???  He usually has plenty to say

the goal was on

Looking From the outside kilcoo are taking the rest of clubs for mugs and they all seem happy to oblige. It's no wonder they are so dominant .what could have spooked county board into not backing Faloon ?

5times5times

Laverty said if Faloon remains, he and rest of management panel are walking.

Give Co.Board an ultimatum, who folded like a pack of wet, limp cards

podge

I am not close to the detail on this but from the outside looking in, were the county board not in a virtually impossible position?

Did the ref himself not pull out from the fixture leaving them having to find an alternative ref ?

What can a county board do to guarantee a man's safety - 24/7 security isn't really practical (if indeed inability of the county board to guarantee personal safety was the reason the appointed ref stepped aside).

All that said, the statement they released leaves a gaping hole, being the events of Sat morn/afternoon.

None of that of course justifies in any way the actions of kilcoo which were unacceptable and if their outside manager had anything about him he would walk away.