The Sunday Game

[joemamas]

I have a feeling you are talking carp Joemamas

That Carp may well be rotten in a month.

[larryin89]

If they can find a way of making a second tier championship appealing and prestigious it would work but how do you go about that without falling into the Tommy Murphy scenario.

TV exposure is one thing , media ,pundits etc would all have to respect and build it up in a serious manner .

[Itchy]

No McDonagh or Ring results given!!!!

Give both those competitions to TG4/Eirsport and watch them flourish.

As for a tiered football competition, RTE would treat it with disdain.

Yep. Only the Senior championship matters for RTÉ.

This is the sort of thing that is putting people off the thought of a tiered championship.
If it was to go that way the GAA would have to put something in their broadcasting contracts to say that  a certain amount of time & coverage is allocated to each division

Absolutely agree, if the powers to be are serious about a tiered championship, they will have to do two things'

1. The so-called "B" final will have to be played before the All-Ireland, move the minor (sorry U 17 ) to 12 noon, or some other date.
2. Have the Q/finals on televised and promoted, and when possible combine some of the later rounds with latter rounds of All-Ireland, e.g. this year play those semi-finals before the big semi-finals.

I have a feeling the folks who are defending one championship may feel differently in about a month, when the two prelim qualifier rounds are out of the way, and half a dozen teams get their usual back door hammerings.

All hell would break loose for tickets for AI finals then.

Well they could solve that by not giving every club in Ireland with no connections a ticket.

[Maroon Manc]

If they can find a way of making a second tier championship appealing and prestigious it would work but how do you go about that without falling into the Tommy Murphy scenario.

TV exposure is one thing , media ,pundits etc would all have to respect and build it up in a serious manner .

I just can't see how they can do that unless it was played earlier on in the year and the winners made the super 8's.

[Jinxy]

The problem with the GAA is we are so heavily integrated that it is hard to allow for unintended consequences when you eventually do decide to change something.

[seafoid]

No McDonagh or Ring results given!!!!

Give both those competitions to TG4/Eirsport and watch them flourish.

As for a tiered football competition, RTE would treat it with disdain.

Excellent idea. Tg4 or Eir would do wonders with them.

The IRFU forced RTE into showing u-20s and womens rugby if they wanted the rights to the 6 nations.
The GAA approaches TV rights negotiations as if we're just glad somebody is willing to show the games at all.
It's like they think televised games involving the 'weaker' counties will devalue the product.

If Sky can make Stoke v Swansea on a wet Wednesday in November interesting it shouldn't be hard to jazz up D2 fuball. 
A lot of fellas will watch anything anyway as long as it is vaguely sport. And D2 would be  competitive

[shark]

If they can find a way of making a second tier championship appealing and prestigious it would work but how do you go about that without falling into the Tommy Murphy scenario.

TV exposure is one thing , media ,pundits etc would all have to respect and build it up in a serious manner .

I just can't see how they can do that unless it was played earlier on in the year and the winners made the super 8's.

The top 2 in the McDonagh make the knock out stages of the McCarthy. That hasn't stopped the competition being completely ignore by national media.
I was once in favour of a tiered championship in football (for the reason that it works well at club level) , but I am no longer. It is not the solution and will only widen the gap between the haves and have nots.

[shark]

No McDonagh or Ring results given!!!!

Give both those competitions to TG4/Eirsport and watch them flourish.

As for a tiered football competition, RTE would treat it with disdain.

Excellent idea. Tg4 or Eir would do wonders with them.

The IRFU forced RTE into showing u-20s and womens rugby if they wanted the rights to the 6 nations.
The GAA approaches TV rights negotiations as if we're just glad somebody is willing to show the games at all.
It's like they think televised games involving the 'weaker' counties will devalue the product.

If Sky can make Stoke v Swansea on a wet Wednesday in November interesting it shouldn't be hard to jazz up D2 fuball. 
A lot of fellas will watch anything anyway as long as it is vaguely sport. And D2 would be  competitive

It won't be on tv. Look at the promises made in 2005 regarding the Christy Ring Cup and how quickly those promises disintegrated.

[Cunny Funt]

No McDonagh or Ring results given!!!!

Give both those competitions to TG4/Eirsport and watch them flourish.

As for a tiered football competition, RTE would treat it with disdain.

Excellent idea. Tg4 or Eir would do wonders with them.

The IRFU forced RTE into showing u-20s and womens rugby if they wanted the rights to the 6 nations.
The GAA approaches TV rights negotiations as if we're just glad somebody is willing to show the games at all.
It's like they think televised games involving the 'weaker' counties will devalue the product.

If Sky can make Stoke v Swansea on a wet Wednesday in November interesting it shouldn't be hard to jazz up D2 fuball. 
A lot of fellas will watch anything anyway as long as it is vaguely sport. And D2 would be  competitive

You can't jazz up Stoke and Swansea no matter how hard sky try. Your crowd won their last provincial title as D2 level team and now you want all D2 teams away from the All Ireland championship?

[thewobbler]

No McDonagh or Ring results given!!!!

Give both those competitions to TG4/Eirsport and watch them flourish.

As for a tiered football competition, RTE would treat it with disdain.

Excellent idea. Tg4 or Eir would do wonders with them.

The IRFU forced RTE into showing u-20s and womens rugby if they wanted the rights to the 6 nations.
The GAA approaches TV rights negotiations as if we're just glad somebody is willing to show the games at all.
It's like they think televised games involving the 'weaker' counties will devalue the product.

Ladies rugby is a minority sport and helps RTE fulfil its public service remit.

A second tier GAA match wouldn't.

[seafoid]

The current system is banjaxed anyway so there will be some kind of change.

[gallsman]

Just catching up on it now. Ridiculous not to show that McManus point during the 4.5 mins of highlights they showed.

[Soju]

Jasus Patten S was epic on the sunday game highlights the other night. Talking utter scutter! When asked how he would solve the problem of teams having 15 players in their own half (packed defence) - he started shiting on about dance halls making no since at all.😞( you could see whelan muttering ah jasus😄) When pushed again to answer the Q he said get good forward coaches in and train the forwards to keep their head up, just keep their heads up.
😃😄 why is this gombeen still paid to talk such drivel.
Good aul ireland!
Whelan had an interesting point about cutting it to 13 a side to give more space and due to the fact players are much fitter than in the past. Personally i would like to see a few rule changes bbrought in and tried before that. Maybe a rule that every team has to have at least 3 players in the oppositions half and their own half at all times.

[Rossfan]

And if they break that rule......?
Defender running out of defence, his forward chasing him comes to half way line-has to stop and see how many of his fellow forwards in opposition half....

[blewuporstuffed]

If they can find a way of making a second tier championship appealing and prestigious it would work but how do you go about that without falling into the Tommy Murphy scenario.

TV exposure is one thing , media ,pundits etc would all have to respect and build it up in a serious manner .

They dont even do that with the main AI competition.

I think a tiered championship is the only way to go, but it will take serious effort from both the GAA and the broadcasters to make it work.
There also has to be a viable route to progress from the secondary competition into the Main AI, in order for it to appeal to players