Tyrone v Monaghan, Sun 20th May, Healy Park

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trileacman

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#334
Quote from: trileacman on May 20, 2018, 10:12:08 PM
Fair play Monaghan. The better team, good plan, good players. They've two weaknesses. Drew Wylie is done. Harrison and now Mc aliskey have taken him to the cleaners. What's the story with D Hughes? Wasn't his hugely effective self, looked like colly cav - not match fit or sharp. K Hughes was immense, gave Hampsey a tight game. You need to do something about drew if you're to go down and beat mayo, Dublin and Kerry which I hope you do. Congratulations on a real good spirited game too with the only exception being the sledging of Peter Harte by Monaghan players and Morgan's dangerous lunge. Minor enough infringements in the grand scheme of Ulster championship football.

Really impressed by the lack of play acting by either side. Plenty of flashpoints but most men hopped up to their feet after hits that would have left Galway men rolling up the pitch.

Mixed bag for Tyrone. Obviously we're playing a more expansive game plan and there was some great ball fed into Brennan who won them all but was reluctant, after his block to face his man and take him on. Mc Aliskey had his best Tyrone performance in 3 years. Mc namee in great form, actually had Mc manus in his pocket for for 70 mins till he cut loose in the last 5. He'll not face too many forwards of that calibre going forward in the championship. Hampsey is able for the cut and thrust of championship and it was good to see Hugh pat back in the mix. Nullified Mc carrons big influence on the game in the last 20 mins. Sparky had seen a world of ball until his injury, he was very unlucky. Full back and full forward lines were untypically adept today.

Middle third was a shit show with the exception of Mc cann and Donnelly who intercepted their fair share. Monaghan squeezed the middle 3rd with their typical physical presence. Colly, sludden, Mc Shane had limited effect on proceedings. Pete was a no show, should have been first to be called ashore. Conal and Ron were a disgrace, would have faired better with 14 men, Mc Clure again huffed and puffed to no great effectiveness. Morgan was the worst, religiously costs us 1-2 points a game with ineffective kick outs or septic attempts at free taking, a liability long before today and it's high time o Neill got a solid run in nets, he couldn't be any worse.

Ulster champs are in a super 8 group with Dublin so might be no loss this year to relinquish an Ulster title. A few handy draws against the minnows may bring colly and Mc cann back into match sharpness and allow Brennan and Mc aliskey build confidence by running up scores against teams who believe they belong in a b championship. With Dublin, galway, Monaghan and Kerry to come through the front door there's no sharks in the qualifiers.

Bring it on.

Or certain Tyrone players the last twenty years... This should not be impressive it should be the minimum and it should not need to be said!!

Good to see Tyrone out if they get the wrong draw in the qualifiers it will be interesting to see what happens within the County!

Blowitupref

#335
Quote from: trileacman on May 20, 2018, 10:12:08 PM


Ulster champs are in a super 8 group with Dublin so might be no loss this year to relinquish an Ulster title. A few handy draws against the minnows may bring colly and Mc cann back into match sharpness and allow Brennan and Mc aliskey build confidence by running up scores against teams who believe they belong in a b championship. With Dublin, galway, Monaghan and Kerry to come through the front door there’s no sharks in the qualifiers.

Bring it on.
Is it not better to be in Dublins group as that would mean you would avoid them in AI semi final if Tyrone get that far? 

Good round 1 wins for both but no guarantee that Monaghan or Galway are coming through the front door yet.  Mayo would be a shark in the qualifiers for Tyrone given their less than great championship record v them.
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#336
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 21, 2018, 12:04:20 AM
Good round 1 wins for both but no guarantee that Monaghan or Galway are coming through the front door yet.  Mayo would be a shark in the qualifiers for Tyrone given their less than great championship record v them.

The Qualifiers, as Mayo themselves have previously pointed out to us, is not the Championship, and as it stands right now we have a positive 100% record against Mayo in the Qualifiers, having beaten them in 2008.  ;)
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Main Street

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on May 21, 2018, 12:13:49 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 21, 2018, 12:04:20 AM
Good round 1 wins for both but no guarantee that Monaghan or Galway are coming through the front door yet.  Mayo would be a shark in the qualifiers for Tyrone given their less than great championship record v them.

The Qualifiers, as Mayo themselves have previously pointed out to us, is not the Championship, and as it stands right now we have a postive 100% record against Mayo in the Qualifiers, having beaten them in 2008.  ;)
Tyronies are now reduced to crawling around the floor of their cave  looking for crumbs  ;D

Can't say i didn't tell you the bell was tolling for Tyrone this year and Monaghan would not just prevail but prevail with ease.

Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: Main Street on May 21, 2018, 12:38:19 AM
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Tyronies are now reduced to crawling around the floor of their cave  looking for crumbs  ;D

Can't say i didn't tell you the bell was tolling for Tyrone this year and Monaghan would not just prevail but prevail with ease.

Only a Clontibret neolith could get so exercised about a first round Ulster victory, regardless of against whom, to the degree of delusion that has him thinking it's epoch making.  :P
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stephenite

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on May 21, 2018, 12:13:49 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 21, 2018, 12:04:20 AM
Good round 1 wins for both but no guarantee that Monaghan or Galway are coming through the front door yet.  Mayo would be a shark in the qualifiers for Tyrone given their less than great championship record v them.

The Qualifiers, as Mayo themselves have previously pointed out to us, is not the Championship, and as it stands right now we have a positive 100% record against Mayo in the Qualifiers, having beaten them in 2008.  ;)

Tyrone would be as much a shark for Mayo

Taylor

Jaysus but where would a man start analysing the game.

MH has to take a lot of responsibility for this loss. I am still a great fan of his but we have to call a spade a spade.

Collie obviously wasnt fit but still started and Brennan seemed to run out of steam. Surely if both boys could only play a certain amount of time they would be better coming off the bench?
His treatment of RON is an absolute disgrace. Used him as a scapegoat.
It is good to see we now have a full forward line rather than 1 player up front but we now have nothing on the 40.

Didnt see the Morgan kick while at the game and genuinely thought Mc Carron was playacting but after watching it at home it was a clear red. What did the umpires see to warrant a yellow?

A few Monaghan mucksavages in the stands would do well to wash their mouths out this morning.

TheGreatest

Well done Monaghan, a credit to the GAA and sport in general. Limited pool of players, 25 living and working in Dublin. Fantastic bunch. Generally not a peep out of them giving out like so many other counties, keep to themselves and get the job done.


Fuzzman

#342
Congrats Monaghan, better team won and showed a lot more hunger and attacking ideas. Well organised at the back and bossed us around midfield. Most of our big "name" players like Matty and Pete were largely anonymous again but there seemed to be a lot of stuff going on towards Peter that was going unpunished.
The Ref did us no favours I felt as he seemed to punish us with cards for tackles that he was letting much worse go for them but alas that's football sometimes and as Harte says we learn more from losing, hopefully anyway.

Monaghan will go well this year and its a huge scalp for them despite what O'Rourke said on his BBC interview.
Last Aug Tyrone were ONE of the fancied teams and so to beat them in their own back yard is not to be sneezed at.
They've a poor record against us and with Beggan and Mansy flawless from frees unlike Morgan who continues to rise the other team with his antics.

I think the thing that annoyed me the most was how we were the home team but we allowed Monaghan to bully us all over the park and not show some balls. Too many nicey players who are terrified of getting a yellow card in case they get hauled off and lose their place then to someone else.

The lack of forwards on our sub bench says it all for me

Congrats again to Monaghan. I hope ye shock a few other people this year and finally get a win against a top team in Croker and not just a meaningless B team.


blewuporstuffed

Quote from: Taylor on May 21, 2018, 08:24:42 AM
Jaysus but where would a man start analysing the game.

MH has to take a lot of responsibility for this loss. I am still a great fan of his but we have to call a spade a spade.

Collie obviously wasnt fit but still started and Brennan seemed to run out of steam. Surely if both boys could only play a certain amount of time they would be better coming off the bench?
His treatment of RON is an absolute disgrace. Used him as a scapegoat.
It is good to see we now have a full forward line rather than 1 player up front but we now have nothing on the 40.

Didnt see the Morgan kick while at the game and genuinely thought Mc Carron was playacting but after watching it at home it was a clear red. What did the umpires see to warrant a yellow?

A few Monaghan mucksavages in the stands would do well to wash their mouths out this morning.

It is certainly harsh to get hooked  again after being brought on as a sub (not the first time Harte has dine this to RON)
but in fairness, he did himself no favours either. He came on in the 18th minute and taken off in the 62nd, and offered nothing in that period, I can only think of him on the ball once or twice.
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Taylor

Quote from: blewuporstuffed on May 21, 2018, 09:01:32 AM
Quote from: Taylor on May 21, 2018, 08:24:42 AM
Jaysus but where would a man start analysing the game.

MH has to take a lot of responsibility for this loss. I am still a great fan of his but we have to call a spade a spade.

Collie obviously wasnt fit but still started and Brennan seemed to run out of steam. Surely if both boys could only play a certain amount of time they would be better coming off the bench?
His treatment of RON is an absolute disgrace. Used him as a scapegoat.
It is good to see we now have a full forward line rather than 1 player up front but we now have nothing on the 40.

Didnt see the Morgan kick while at the game and genuinely thought Mc Carron was playacting but after watching it at home it was a clear red. What did the umpires see to warrant a yellow?

A few Monaghan mucksavages in the stands would do well to wash their mouths out this morning.

It is certainly harsh to get hooked  again after being brought on as a sub (not the first time Harte has dine this to RON)
but in fairness, he did himself no favours either. He came on in the 18th minute and taken off in the 62nd, and offered nothing in that period, I can only think of him on the ball once or twice.

He was by no means the worst.

We had further problems out the field and during this period Monaghan were taking control.

How many balls were put into the front men during this period?