Internment Bonfires....our culture... really?

[theskull1]

Someone help me out here. Explain how this is not copying one of the most despised cultural pastimes of loyalism? A classic case of monkey see monkey do. Surely we know the sentiment/message that these events are conveying to wider society and ingraining locally. Are we happy about that? I would have thought nationalism was a more evolved being to get involved in such things. Pandering to the lowest common denominator with blue bags at the ready

[T Fearon]

Nah,its just revenge for July 11th when we burn their stuff because they burned ours.

[OakleafCounty]

It isn't part of any culture of mine just like it isn't part of a lot of protestants culture. People who do that shit are scum no matter what side they think they're on.

[Minder]

Irish News journalist Allison Morris was attacked at the Divis one the other night.

[sheamy]

This is cheapening an important historical date and is an awful waste of pallets. It's embarrassing to be honest.

[Gaffer]

Where do they get all these pallets from?

Do they nick them?

[T Fearon]

Also they nicked a loyalist mural? How do you steal a mural?

[theticklemister]

It isn't part of any culture of mine just like it isn't part of a lot of protestants culture. People who do that shit are scum no matter what side they think they're on.

ALL scum. Good job we have someone like yourself to cast judgement over everyone else.

[theskull1]

It isn't part of any culture of mine just like it isn't part of a lot of protestants culture. People who do that shit are scum no matter what side they think they're on.

ALL scum. Good job we have someone like yourself to cast judgement over everyone else.

Please continue...

[WeeDonns]

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/politics/orange-order-to-stage-protest-at-internment-rally-29482313.html

BY CHRIS KILPATRICK – 09 August 2013
An Orange Order protest against a dissident republican parade through the centre of Belfast does not signal a shift in policy, a senior figure has said.
Six groups plan to protest at tomorrow evening's anti-internment parade.

The Orange Order has notified the Parades Commission of a demonstration at Royal Avenue with two other protests planned by United Protestant Voice and the Protestant Coalition.

The Order's No 2 district plans to stage a 100-strong protest. The district has been embroiled in the parading row in north Belfast after its members were prevented from marching past Ardoyne on the Twelfth and subsequently.

Another group, Friends of No 9 District, has notified the Parades Commission of a demonstration featuring 150 people. A determination on that is due to be made today.

It is believed to be the first time the Orange Order has protested against a republican parade.

The Orange Order chaplain Mervyn Gibson said the decision to protest was taken by the district involved and denied it was a shift in policy.

"It was a local decision," he said.

"I think a crisis has been created by the Parades Commission and everything now has become contentious again. There is anger about the dissident parade."

Mr Gibson called on those taking part in protests to ensure they are peaceful.

The parading watchdog has already issued its determinations on the remaining two protests to be held by loyalist residents each featuring up to 150 people.

The protests could see up to 1,000 unionist/loyalist demonstrators picket the parade.

Last week the anti-internment rally was given the go-ahead with no restrictions on the route of the 5,000-strong march.

The parade's organising body, the Anti-Internment League, is an umbrella group formed specifically for next week's rally.

A number of dissident republican groups united to organise the event under the title including the 32 County Sovereignty Movement and Republican Network for Unity (RNU), both of which are alleged to have links to republican terror groups, which they deny.

The Irish Republican Socialist Party, eirigi and the 1916 Societies are also involved.

Organisers said they also intend inviting trade unions, GAA clubs and human rights groups.

Meanwhile, on Saturday afternoon the now weekly Orange parade towards Ardoyne will again be blocked by police from passing Woodvale Parade.

BACKGROUND

Marchers will assemble at Ardoyne Avenue at 6pm before walking along Oldpark, Cliftonville and Antrim roads. They will parade on Donegall Street, Royal Avenue, Castle Street and the Falls Road. The commission stressed "the importance of respectful behaviour in the vicinity of interface areas, namely that there shall be no singing, chanting, or loud drumming".


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Will GAA clubs be taking part in this?

[pullhard]

Where do they get all these pallets from?

Do they nick them?

often wonder this, they're bound to be worth a few quid each. seems like some waste.

[Tony Baloney]

This and Castlederg plays right into the hands of the politicians, the OO and loyalists with their backs against the wall. I would rather see all these events cancelled this year to make loyalism look even worse and republicanism as magnanimous. Lets be honest the bonfires are not a commemoration of anything, they are an excuse for a piss up.

[sheamy]

Take a JCB up to the lower falls and sort this out lads...

"This is not about commemoration or a political expression, but just a focal point for drinking and drug-taking" Paul Maskey SF

[WeeDonns]

This and Castlederg plays right into the hands of the politicians, the OO and loyalists with their backs against the wall. I would rather see all these events cancelled this year to make loyalism look even worse and republicanism as magnanimous. Lets be honest the bonfires are not a commemoration of anything, they are an excuse for a piss up.

Totally agree

[theticklemister]

Take a JCB up to the lower falls and sort this out lads...

"This is not about commemoration or a political expression, but just a focal point for drinking and drug-taking" Paul Maskey SF

Has anyone a quote from Maskey about bonfires 10/15 years ago? Ill give er a go here......

'These bonfires are to commemorate the people who were interned in 1971, they are seen as an act of resistance and are a symbol for everyone throughout the world who are in support of basic human rights. Tonight we commmemorate these people on the Falls Road because it was here that a lot of these men were taken.'