Cork fans flying the confederate flag

Started by Eamonnca1, August 14, 2017, 06:46:45 PM

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Kurtz

Shamrocks are used as an Aryan Brotherhood symbol

So they need to go too ;D :o

Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: stew on August 18, 2017, 09:16:33 AM
Hate speech is protected in the US as it should be, although deplorable you cannot and should not be able to stop any voice from being heard if you live in a true democracy, rather, you should engage in debate and destroy said hate speech with reason and moral arguments.

Trump would like to have "punched that guy right in his face" for daring to stand up to the fcukwit megalomaniac on his Presidential hustings and speaking freely, while his security henchmen beat the living shit out of him. That's all the fault of the 'Liberals' though is it, or are you just delusional about free(hate) speech in the US?
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

Kurtz

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Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 18, 2017, 10:29:13 AM
Quote from: stew on August 18, 2017, 09:16:33 AM
Hate speech is protected in the US as it should be, although deplorable you cannot and should not be able to stop any voice from being heard if you live in a true democracy, rather, you should engage in debate and destroy said hate speech with reason and moral arguments.

Trump would like to have "punched that guy right in his face" for daring to stand up to the fcukwit megalomaniac on his Presidential hustings and speaking freely, while his security henchmen beat the living shit out of him. That's all the fault of the 'Liberals' though is it, or are you just delusional about free(hate) speech in the US?

You can now be arrested and hauled away in Canada for using the "wrong" pronoun. Even Hitler and Mussolini didn't think of that one. Way to go Liberals.
Did you know, that the Confederates were Democrats   :-* :-*

Whats the difference between a Liberal and a Redneck, both have no idea what a Software coder really does, but only one thinks they aren't coders because of discrimination.

sid waddell

Quote from: Kurtz on August 18, 2017, 11:06:40 AM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 18, 2017, 10:29:13 AM
Quote from: stew on August 18, 2017, 09:16:33 AM
Hate speech is protected in the US as it should be, although deplorable you cannot and should not be able to stop any voice from being heard if you live in a true democracy, rather, you should engage in debate and destroy said hate speech with reason and moral arguments.

Trump would like to have "punched that guy right in his face" for daring to stand up to the fcukwit megalomaniac on his Presidential hustings and speaking freely, while his security henchmen beat the living shit out of him. That's all the fault of the 'Liberals' though is it, or are you just delusional about free(hate) speech in the US?

You can now be arrested and hauled away in Canada for using the "wrong" pronoun. Even Hitler and Mussolini didn't think of that one. Way to go Liberals.
Did you know, that the Confederates were Democrats   :-* :-*

Whats the difference between a Liberal and a Redneck, both have no idea what a Software coder really does, but only one thinks they aren't coders because of discrimination.
Well done girl, you've just found out one of the most basic pieces of information about US political history.

You're clearly now an expert on the subject.

Don't bother going into comedy, by they way. Comedy is supposed to be funny.

LCohen

Loyalists up this direction fly the confederate flag.

I can't think what possesses a cork fan to fly the flag as opposed to another red and white flag? Other than ignorance which excuses nothing

J70

Quote from: LCohen on August 18, 2017, 02:38:11 PM
Loyalists up this direction fly the confederate flag.

I can't think what possesses a cork fan to fly the flag as opposed to another red and white flag? Other than ignorance which excuses nothing

Not any more.

omaghjoe

Quote from: tonto1888 on August 18, 2017, 08:59:17 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 18, 2017, 07:09:28 AM
These Nazi All-Ireland medals should be handed back in and the design changed forthwith.... it would cause consternation in Kerry as they might have to change their currency.

What are you talking about

That a Celtic Cross is probably the most common symbol of the modern far right in Europe.
Being much more widespread and in those places more exclusive to those "causes" than the confederate flag.

omaghjoe

Quote from: LCohen on August 18, 2017, 02:38:11 PM
Loyalists up this direction fly the confederate flag.

I can't think what possesses a cork fan to fly the flag as opposed to another red and white flag? Other than ignorance which excuses nothing

Not to mention the red hand of Ulster which is a much more prominent loyalist symbol.

BennyCake

Quote from: omaghjoe on August 18, 2017, 03:31:52 PM
Quote from: LCohen on August 18, 2017, 02:38:11 PM
Loyalists up this direction fly the confederate flag.

I can't think what possesses a cork fan to fly the flag as opposed to another red and white flag? Other than ignorance which excuses nothing

Not to mention the red hand of Ulster which is a much more prominent loyalist symbol.

Loyalists adopted the Red Hand. It's a Nationalist symbol.

omaghjoe

Quote from: BennyCake on August 18, 2017, 04:21:44 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 18, 2017, 03:31:52 PM
Quote from: LCohen on August 18, 2017, 02:38:11 PM
Loyalists up this direction fly the confederate flag.

I can't think what possesses a cork fan to fly the flag as opposed to another red and white flag? Other than ignorance which excuses nothing

Not to mention the red hand of Ulster which is a much more prominent loyalist symbol.

Loyalists adopted the Red Hand. It's a Nationalist symbol.


Loyalists would say that its representative of Ulster not the whole of Ireland so how could it be AI NAtionalist.... and that it was around long before the concept of soverign Nationlism came to Ireland
And that's beside the point as white nationalists in America adopted the confederate flag.

Eamonnca1

Quote from: stew on August 18, 2017, 09:16:33 AM
Hate speech is protected in the US as it should be, although deplorable you cannot and should not be able to stop any voice from being heard if you live in a true democracy, rather, you should engage in debate and destroy said hate speech with reason and moral arguments.

Incorrect. The First Amendment only stops the government from censoring you. I can still tell you to shut up.

Eamonnca1

Isn't the red hand the symbol of the O'Neills who led the Irish Rebellion of 1641?

Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 18, 2017, 05:29:06 PM
Isn't the red hand the symbol of the O'Neills who led the Irish Rebellion of 1641?

Nope, goes way back beyond that particular rebellion (in origin), but well adopted by then, true.
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

Tony Baloney

The same people moaning about this would no doubt tell the Loyalist 'fleggers' that "it's only a flag". And they'd be correct. Nothing to see here.

omaghjoe

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 18, 2017, 05:43:39 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on August 18, 2017, 05:29:06 PM
Isn't the red hand the symbol of the O'Neills who led the Irish Rebellion of 1641?

Nope, goes way back beyond that particular rebellion (in origin), but well adopted by then, true.

Was it adopted by the confederacy? dont think so? Besides it could be argued the confederacy had more in common with loyalist considering their pledge of loyalty to the English crown and interest in self governance. Not to mention their defeat to the first Republicans in Ireland?  :P
Also what were were the O'Neills interested in? Certainly prior to this it was about maintaining control of their fifedom in Ulster and it would be safe to assume that they seen the confedercy as a vessel to regaining that.

This is all well besides the point anyway as we are talking about ridding the association from symbols with prominent associations of present day far right groups. Of which the Red Hand and especially the Celtic Cross are two of the most conspicuous within the association