Tyrone v Dublin - The return of the Jedi

[Real Talk]

Before the 1980s, Tyrone were never really considered a force in Ulster having only won the Ango Celt in 1956,1957 and 1973.

However, Tyrone won 4 Ulster titles in the 1980s when I was a young lad and they reached the 1986 final against Kerry and maybe for the the first time I think people in Tyrone believed we might win the All Ireland some day. They had a great chance in that game and lead by 8 in that final but alas it wasn't to be thanks to goals from Spillane and Mikey Sheehy and Tyrone showing a lack of experience.

We had to wait 9 years until we got back to that stage and again we lost a controversial match against the Dubs which many thought it should have been a replay.

So those two decades were the beginning of Tyrone people believing they were good enough to sit at the top table, having watched Down, Derry and Donegal all win the big prize before they did. They often looked to have the players but not the know how to get over that final straw, some would say a bit like Mayo.

However, Mickey Harte came in and changed all that and not only has he brought the county 3 all irelands to date, he has changed how other teams view Tyrone as being one of the big guns in all Ireland football now.

So where counties like Meath, Cork and Down used to be considered powerful forces in years gone by, Mayo and Tyrone have moved up the ladder to the top table some would say.

That's why most Tyrone people have this arrogance about them when it comes to GAA football I think and they don't care if nobody likes them as that man said on the youtube video a few years back.

Ní uasal agus Iseal ach thuas seal agus thios seal. Meath fans had a long summer with Boylan from 84 to 02. It ended.

Tyrone had a mix of a great manager and a great cohort of players in the 00s.
But 3 all Irelands means nothing about the future. . Mayo won 3 between 36 and 51. Louth won 3. Nothing afterwards.

If Tyrone lose the next day that could be it for 20 years. Ask the Meath lads.

Whose Meath?

It seems to be a bad dose of Groupthink. I think we can say Tyrone have arrived when they win Sam with 3 different teams. That would be serious.
Nonsense about believing is not. OR is God behind Tyrone?

God retired in 2005

Gone to that big place in the Sky.

Another big factor in a very professional backroom team .... has full knowledge of all influential players in Ireland and how all teams are 'Tactically' set up etc ..... really smart boost for Tyrone .... only GOD knows better

[Il Bomber Destro]

Will Connolly start? Will the officials be nervous?

We'll beat the Dubs, with him or without him.

Either that or ye won't be able to keep the ball kicked out

Those 15 years without a Championship win in Croke Park seem to have developed quite a large chip on your shoulder.

Don't they? We have an all Ireland final coming up in a few weeks.
Sweet suffering Jesus

All Irelands in a niche sport?

I'm commenting about the chip on your shoulder due to Galway failing to win a Championship football game in 15 years at Croke Park.

[omaghjoe]

Will Connolly start? Will the officials be nervous?

We'll beat the Dubs, with him or without him.

Either that or ye won't be able to keep the ball kicked out

Those 15 years without a Championship win in Croke Park seem to have developed quite a large chip on your shoulder.

Don't they? We have an all Ireland final coming up in a few weeks.
Sweet suffering Jesus

Hmm your win appearance to wins ratio deosn't offer much confidence tho does it? I hope you donn't believe your gonna win or anything because based on those stats it would be a bit forlorn wouldn't it?

[seafoid]

Will Connolly start? Will the officials be nervous?

We'll beat the Dubs, with him or without him.

Either that or ye won't be able to keep the ball kicked out

Those 15 years without a Championship win in Croke Park seem to have developed quite a large chip on your shoulder.

Don't they? We have an all Ireland final coming up in a few weeks.
Sweet suffering Jesus

Hmm your win appearance to wins ratio deosn't offer much confidence tho does it? I hope you donn't believe your gonna win or anything because based on those stats it would be a bit forlorn wouldn't it?

We have more than 4 times as many all Irelands as Throne and we never declare a team before it has done anything.
To listen to some punters on here it is as if football started in 2003.

[trueblue1234]

Will Connolly start? Will the officials be nervous?

We'll beat the Dubs, with him or without him.

Either that or ye won't be able to keep the ball kicked out

Those 15 years without a Championship win in Croke Park seem to have developed quite a large chip on your shoulder.

Don't they? We have an all Ireland final coming up in a few weeks.
Sweet suffering Jesus

Hmm your win appearance to wins ratio deosn't offer much confidence tho does it? I hope you donn't believe your gonna win or anything because based on those stats it would be a bit forlorn wouldn't it?

We have more than 4 times as many all Irelands as Throne and we never declare a team before it has done anything.
To listen to some punters on here it is as if football started in 2003.

You talk some nonsense. Tyrone posters on this thread were talking about the 80's and 90's.

[Il Bomber Destro]

Will Connolly start? Will the officials be nervous?

We'll beat the Dubs, with him or without him.

Either that or ye won't be able to keep the ball kicked out

Those 15 years without a Championship win in Croke Park seem to have developed quite a large chip on your shoulder.

Don't they? We have an all Ireland final coming up in a few weeks.
Sweet suffering Jesus

Hmm your win appearance to wins ratio deosn't offer much confidence tho does it? I hope you donn't believe your gonna win or anything because based on those stats it would be a bit forlorn wouldn't it?

We have more than 4 times as many all Irelands as Throne and we never declare a team before it has done anything.
To listen to some punters on here it is as if football started in 2003.

Sure Galway haven't won a football Championship game at Croke Park since 2001. It's why you have such a massive chip on your shoulder.

[seafoid]

Will Connolly start? Will the officials be nervous?

We'll beat the Dubs, with him or without him.

Either that or ye won't be able to keep the ball kicked out

Those 15 years without a Championship win in Croke Park seem to have developed quite a large chip on your shoulder.

Don't they? We have an all Ireland final coming up in a few weeks.
Sweet suffering Jesus

Hmm your win appearance to wins ratio deosn't offer much confidence tho does it? I hope you donn't believe your gonna win or anything because based on those stats it would be a bit forlorn wouldn't it?

We have more than 4 times as many all Irelands as Throne and we never declare a team before it has done anything.
To listen to some punters on here it is as if football started in 2003.

Sure Galway haven't won a football Championship game at Croke Park since 2001. It's why you have such a massive chip on your shoulder.

Do counties win all the time Bomber? Do you want to have a race and see who wins most over the next 20 years?

And Meath and Down will never win anything again- can I have that in writing?

[Il Bomber Destro]

Will Connolly start? Will the officials be nervous?

We'll beat the Dubs, with him or without him.

Either that or ye won't be able to keep the ball kicked out

Those 15 years without a Championship win in Croke Park seem to have developed quite a large chip on your shoulder.

Don't they? We have an all Ireland final coming up in a few weeks.
Sweet suffering Jesus

Hmm your win appearance to wins ratio deosn't offer much confidence tho does it? I hope you donn't believe your gonna win or anything because based on those stats it would be a bit forlorn wouldn't it?

We have more than 4 times as many all Irelands as Throne and we never declare a team before it has done anything.
To listen to some punters on here it is as if football started in 2003.

Sure Galway haven't won a football Championship game at Croke Park since 2001. It's why you have such a massive chip on your shoulder.

Do counties win all the time Bomber? Do you want to have a race and see who wins most over the next 20 years?

And Meath and Down will never win anything again- can I have that in writing?

I'd say Galway's winless drought at Croke Park must be unrivalled in Championship football terms.

Has any other county lost 10 straight Championship football games at Croke Park?

[Rossfan]

Longford? Louth? Carlow?
What's Tyrone's Croke Park Championship record in this decade?

[BennyHarp]

Longford? Louth? Carlow?
What's Tyrone's Croke Park Championship record in this decade?

Not sure but it's our 3rd semi final in 5 years.

[Il Bomber Destro]

Longford? Louth? Carlow?
What's Tyrone's Croke Park Championship record in this decade?

Louth won games at Croke Park in 2010.

When did Carlow last play a Championship football match at Croke Park?

Longford have only played 3 times at Croke Park since 2001 in Championshiip.

[omaghjoe]

Just checking there especially for Seafoid.. Galways win rate  in hurling finals is just 17%! Which unbelievably is actually worse than their neighbours's Mayo in football. Not the kinda stats that would inspire alot of confidence going into another one.

As for their footballers recent performance at HQ impressive stuff. Monaghan cant be too far away from that either or did they beat Kildare in a qualifier?

[Il Bomber Destro]

Just checking there especially for Seafoid.. Galways win rate  in hurling finals is just 17%! Which unbelievably is actually worse than their neighbours's Mayo in football. Not the kinda stats that would inspire alot of confidence going into another one.

As for their footballers recent performance at HQ impressive stuff. Monaghan cant be too far away from that either or did they beat Kildare in a qualifier?

Monaghan have beaten Kildare and Down in the past few years at Croke Park.

[RedHand88]

Longford? Louth? Carlow?
What's Tyrone's Croke Park Championship record in this decade?

Not sure but it's our 3rd semi final in 5 years.

I worked it out there. It's 70%. 70%. 7 out of 10. Only defeats were Mayo 2013 2016 and Kerry 2015.

[Redhand Santa]

Longford? Louth? Carlow?
What's Tyrone's Croke Park Championship record in this decade?

Not sure but it's our 3rd semi final in 5 years.

I worked it out there. It's 70%. 70%. 7 out of 10. Only defeats were Mayo 2013 2016 and Kerry 2015.

We also lost to Dublin in 2010 and 2011. So that's at least 5 losses. In this decade we have beaten Monaghan in two quarter finals, Armagh in a quarter final, beat Meath in the backdoor, beat Roscommon in the backdoor - possibly twice. That's just quickly of the top of my head, probably forgotten a few games.