Tyrone v Dublin - The return of the Jedi

Started by Fuzzman, August 05, 2017, 08:46:59 PM

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RedHand88


Fear ón Srath Bán

Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

Dire Ear

Quote from: rrhf on August 12, 2017, 04:14:01 PM
Tyrone tackle will be faultless. That has taken years to perfect. A weak referee that rewards the free winning antics of Dublin will be a crucial need for Dublin in this regard. Who knows. If pressure is applied and the the ref goes out to do a job on Tyrone. Over the years the fake punditry and the rte paranoia of losing banquet coverage...for all that tradition. You never know.
Agree with all of this

Buttofthehill

Just watched the highlights of the league match again.
Sludden had a great game - what relation is he to the ref (if any)? Is he still reffing btw?

Taylor

Has anyone any actual evidence that he dives?
Anyone??

RedHand88

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 13, 2017, 11:48:17 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 13, 2017, 11:21:38 AM
He dives.

Evidence buddy, or is your computer not working so good?

You won't get it. He's just another subscriber to the "if Joe Brolly said it then it must be true" philosophy. Nonsense of course. As someone who never misses a game I can tell you what sean has to put up with from opposition players and fans is ridiculous. Donegal have been chief culprits in recent times. Manys a man would have thought "to hell with this" and hung up the boots but it's a measure of the man that he's stuck it out.

stew

Quote from: BennyHarp on August 12, 2017, 11:16:56 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on August 12, 2017, 10:33:44 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 12, 2017, 11:07:41 AM
Quote from: seafoid on August 12, 2017, 02:57:45 AM
Quote from: Fuzzman on August 12, 2017, 12:17:02 AM
Dean Rock has been a very important player for Dublin the last few years and on the last few league games against Tyrone has scored the equalising goal or point near the end.

I'm just wondering how many of his 3.19 are from frees or penalties? I think he's become much more rounded player as he showed how he takes his goals these days.

My reason for asking is that Tyrone and Donegal the last few years have worked very hard on not giving away scoreable frees, at least when the game is still up for grabs.
Its probably because defenders know they don't have to be overly robust or physical because should they not win the ball there will be another body back to hold him up.

I think the winning and losing of this game could come down to the amount of frees Tyrone give away AND can Tyrone score the frees they get.
In the last few years Tyrone have got to quarter and semi finals they have created enough goal and point chances but have not taken them.
So far this year they have put up huge scores but only really in the 3rd or 4th quarter.

Would another draw be a surprise?
Would the replay be in Omagh or Clones?
Clones or in the Nell?
;) ;)
If Tyrone can maintain that no fouling in the scoring zone discipline it could get very interesting.

Dubs have mastered the art of winning the free in scoring distance for Rock. Yes, everyone will come on saying that Tyrone do it, but I'm just pointing out that it is a clear tactic from Dublin to go down in the tackle, arch the back to pretend your being held, grab on the defenders arm and go down and at times a blatant roll around clutching your face. The contact is made, the hill roars and the weak ref gives the free. Rock cleans up and the scoreboard ticks over. Genius really...and a definite tactic. Tyrone give away very few frees in games as their skill and discipline in the tackle is second to none, if Coldrick can bring a set of balls with him, then we will be in business. I don't think the current Dublin forward line will score enough from play and rely on the boost that a free taker kicking 8 or 9 gives them as it eases the pressure on their own shooting.

Ridiculous post. It's one thing for the dubs to get abuse for money/grants but now apparently they dive as well and this from a Tyrone fan!!! Pot, kettle, black. No one has mastered the art of diving/falling for frees like Sean Cavanagh. Honorable mention to his brother Colm and who can forget Tiernan's dive. I can only assume the post was a wind up because no one could take it seriously

This is definitely no wind up. Your lads systematically earn yourselves frees in kickable positions for Rock. It was blatant against Monaghan and is a good tactic to keep the scoreboard ticking over with such a reliable free taker. It's fine pointing the finger at Tyrone, but your lads have turned it into an essential part of your actual gameplan. A forward line that has lost a top of their game Flynn and Bernard Brogan not to mention Alan Brogan and for most of the season Connolly, it's hardly surprising that Gavlin has opted to take some of the scoring pressure off the forward unit. It's definitely not as scary a forward line as it was a few years ago.....as long as there is a strong ref. And I haven't even mentioned the blatant injury feigning to get lads sent off! Have you acknowledged Coopers antics yet?

Such hypocritical; from Tyronies! there is not now nor has there ever been a more cynical team when it comes to diving than Tyrone, in fact their hero big Sean is the softest midfielder to play the game in decades, McCann is young and stupid enough to f**k it up worse than anyone ever has, any coach with any sense of decency at all would have hauled the f**ker off by the neck after his swan lake.

I am looking forward to a brilliant, tense game and I hope Dublin come out on top but I fear Tyrone will nick it by a point, all that said, we will see two brilliant sides at their absolute best.
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: RedHand88 on August 13, 2017, 01:22:51 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 13, 2017, 11:48:17 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 13, 2017, 11:21:38 AM
He dives.

Evidence buddy, or is your computer not working so good?

You won't get it. He's just another subscriber to the "if Joe Brolly said it then it must be true" philosophy. Nonsense of course. As someone who never misses a game I can tell you what sean has to put up with from opposition players and fans is ridiculous. Donegal have been chief culprits in recent times. Manys a man would have thought "to hell with this" and hung up the boots but it's a measure of the man that he's stuck it out.

Looks like all the lemmings have gone over that cliff ;)
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

BennyHarp

Quote from: stew on August 13, 2017, 01:34:01 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 12, 2017, 11:16:56 PM
Quote from: dublin7 on August 12, 2017, 10:33:44 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 12, 2017, 11:07:41 AM
Quote from: seafoid on August 12, 2017, 02:57:45 AM
Quote from: Fuzzman on August 12, 2017, 12:17:02 AM
Dean Rock has been a very important player for Dublin the last few years and on the last few league games against Tyrone has scored the equalising goal or point near the end.

I'm just wondering how many of his 3.19 are from frees or penalties? I think he's become much more rounded player as he showed how he takes his goals these days.

My reason for asking is that Tyrone and Donegal the last few years have worked very hard on not giving away scoreable frees, at least when the game is still up for grabs.
Its probably because defenders know they don't have to be overly robust or physical because should they not win the ball there will be another body back to hold him up.

I think the winning and losing of this game could come down to the amount of frees Tyrone give away AND can Tyrone score the frees they get.
In the last few years Tyrone have got to quarter and semi finals they have created enough goal and point chances but have not taken them.
So far this year they have put up huge scores but only really in the 3rd or 4th quarter.

Would another draw be a surprise?
Would the replay be in Omagh or Clones?
Clones or in the Nell?
;) ;)
If Tyrone can maintain that no fouling in the scoring zone discipline it could get very interesting.

Dubs have mastered the art of winning the free in scoring distance for Rock. Yes, everyone will come on saying that Tyrone do it, but I'm just pointing out that it is a clear tactic from Dublin to go down in the tackle, arch the back to pretend your being held, grab on the defenders arm and go down and at times a blatant roll around clutching your face. The contact is made, the hill roars and the weak ref gives the free. Rock cleans up and the scoreboard ticks over. Genius really...and a definite tactic. Tyrone give away very few frees in games as their skill and discipline in the tackle is second to none, if Coldrick can bring a set of balls with him, then we will be in business. I don't think the current Dublin forward line will score enough from play and rely on the boost that a free taker kicking 8 or 9 gives them as it eases the pressure on their own shooting.

Ridiculous post. It's one thing for the dubs to get abuse for money/grants but now apparently they dive as well and this from a Tyrone fan!!! Pot, kettle, black. No one has mastered the art of diving/falling for frees like Sean Cavanagh. Honorable mention to his brother Colm and who can forget Tiernan's dive. I can only assume the post was a wind up because no one could take it seriously

This is definitely no wind up. Your lads systematically earn yourselves frees in kickable positions for Rock. It was blatant against Monaghan and is a good tactic to keep the scoreboard ticking over with such a reliable free taker. It's fine pointing the finger at Tyrone, but your lads have turned it into an essential part of your actual gameplan. A forward line that has lost a top of their game Flynn and Bernard Brogan not to mention Alan Brogan and for most of the season Connolly, it's hardly surprising that Gavlin has opted to take some of the scoring pressure off the forward unit. It's definitely not as scary a forward line as it was a few years ago.....as long as there is a strong ref. And I haven't even mentioned the blatant injury feigning to get lads sent off! Have you acknowledged Coopers antics yet?

Such hypocritical; from Tyronies! there is not now nor has there ever been a more cynical team when it comes to diving than Tyrone, in fact their hero big Sean is the softest midfielder to play the game in decades, McCann is young and stupid enough to f**k it up worse than anyone ever has, any coach with any sense of decency at all would have hauled the f**ker off by the neck after his swan lake.

I am looking forward to a brilliant, tense game and I hope Dublin come out on top but I fear Tyrone will nick it by a point, all that said, we will see two brilliant sides at their absolute best.

Stew, just because you have a particular notion of what Tyrone did or didn't do in your mind, doesn't make the point about Dublin winning frees and feigning injury any less valid. If you can watch Philly McMahon's behaviour v Mayo last year, Jonny Cooper's behaviour v Monaghan this year and the systematic falling over within shooting distance of their current crop of players and ignore it because "Tyrone ones supposedly do it" then that's fine. I hope the officials aren't quite as blinkered in their decision making.
That was never a square ball!!

Wildweasel74

I work out how to transfer video tapes to you tube give i give u 10 years of diving, good footballer but biggest con artist in the game, time u Tyronies took the blinkers off

Jell 0 Biafra

Jaysus, I hope those pure Tyrone lads will be OK coming up against those dirty, diving, intimidating Dubs.

BennyHarp

Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on August 13, 2017, 03:40:59 PM
Jaysus, I hope those pure Tyrone lads will be OK coming up against those dirty, diving, intimidating Dubs.

As long as there's a strong ref we'll be fine!
That was never a square ball!!

Fear ón Srath Bán

Fuzzman, maybe rename this thread 'the sour grapes lemming bandwagon'? Would seem to fit the profile of the recent contributions. ;)
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

Main Street

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 13, 2017, 02:54:00 PM
I work out how to transfer video tapes to you tube give i give u 10 years of diving, good footballer but biggest con artist in the game, time u Tyronies took the blinkers off
That's a huge project, but you'll have to reject the ones where Sean was touched by a hand, that's interpreted as a forearm smash.
But hey, let's not quibble about big Sean in his swan dive championship campaign.

Will being labelled as playing like a pack of wild animals by one of the true great players of the 21C  bother the Tyrone team? I suspect that sort of thing will be like water of a ducks back and we'll be seeing pictures of Tyrone players with unmelted butter in their mouths

Fear ón Srath Bán

Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...