China Coronavirus

Started by lurganblue, January 23, 2020, 09:52:32 AM

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Rudi

Quote from: armaghniac on February 18, 2022, 09:58:41 AM
Shops are on thing, I always tended to avoid busy shopping periods anyway, except t perhaps at Christmas. But public transport is the thing, they want everyone to use it and they pack people in like sardines and while aeroplanes have hi tech ventilation trains and buses do not.

;D Sweet fu"k, the only time shops are busy

From the Bunker


Saffrongael

Quote from: bennydorano on February 18, 2022, 09:39:32 AM
One thing I really hope the Covid era will leave a lasting legacy on is the end of people coming into work sick as a dog and polluting their colleagues. I'd also probably continue to wear masks during winter months off my own bat tbh, Most Winter's I would have spent a lot of time holding my breath in shop queues to avoid snottery/ bug laden shoppers, so mask wearing would be a bonus as far as I'm concerned.

Depends if they are in a handy public sector job with full contractual sick pay or in a job where they don't get paid if they are sick
Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come

theskull1

Follow the evidence, wherever it leads

Treatment with Ivermectin Is Associated with Decreased Mortality in COVID-19 Patients: Analysis of a National Federated Database

Ivermectin, more evidence
https://youtu.be/rfyOihhAD4A
It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

lenny

Quote from: theskull1 on March 07, 2022, 09:09:45 PM
Follow the evidence, wherever it leads

Treatment with Ivermectin Is Associated with Decreased Mortality in COVID-19 Patients: Analysis of a National Federated Database

Ivermectin, more evidence
https://youtu.be/rfyOihhAD4A


Covid can cause brain damage even in mild or asymptomatic cases. We're going to have a real epidemic of dementia in a few years time.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/07/covid-can-shrink-brain-and-damage-its-tissue-finds-research

RadioGAAGAA

Quote from: theskull1 on March 07, 2022, 09:09:45 PM
Follow the evidence, wherever it leads

Treatment with Ivermectin Is Associated with Decreased Mortality in COVID-19 Patients: Analysis of a National Federated Database

Ivermectin, more evidence
https://youtu.be/rfyOihhAD4A

Point me to the peer reviewed research please.

Otherwise quit wasting everyone's time.
i usse an speelchekor

theskull1

Links in the youtube video description

Whatever happened to keeping an open mind especially when more evidence is being presented to strengthen the case for a medication which costs pennies ::)

It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

thebigfella

Quote from: theskull1 on March 07, 2022, 09:09:45 PM
Follow the evidence, wherever it leads

Treatment with Ivermectin Is Associated with Decreased Mortality in COVID-19 Patients: Analysis of a National Federated Database

Ivermectin, more evidence
https://youtu.be/rfyOihhAD4A

That gobshite is still at his videos I see

Gmac

Quote from: lenny on March 07, 2022, 09:27:39 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 07, 2022, 09:09:45 PM
Follow the evidence, wherever it leads

Treatment with Ivermectin Is Associated with Decreased Mortality in COVID-19 Patients: Analysis of a National Federated Database

Ivermectin, more evidence
https://youtu.be/rfyOihhAD4A


Covid can cause brain damage even in mild or asymptomatic cases. We're going to have a real epidemic of dementia in a few years time.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/07/covid-can-shrink-brain-and-damage-its-tissue-finds-research
Covid has caused all sorts of brain damage but not this kind .

theskull1

The certainty of some  :o
It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

Last Man

We are naturally so bidable when it comes to our health that we blindly just accept what the medics say when in effect they are just working off a list of guidelines, they just don't have time any more to offer personalised care. In fact because of the afforementioned guidelines they are not allowed to if they want to stay within the system. Green shoots of progress are starting to appear however where some medical professionals are beginning to opt out. All the same it only works if people want to take active responsibility for their own health, otherwise the current somewhat lucrative polypharmacy is your only option and good luck with that one.

trueblue1234

Quote from: Last Man on March 08, 2022, 10:28:36 AM
We are naturally so bidable when it comes to our health that we blindly just accept what the medics say when in effect they are just working off a list of guidelines, they just don't have time any more to offer personalised care. In fact because of the afforementioned guidelines they are not allowed to if they want to stay within the system. Green shoots of progress are starting to appear however where some medical professionals are beginning to opt out. All the same it only works if people want to take active responsibility for their own health, otherwise the current somewhat lucrative polypharmacy is your only option and good luck with that one.

But if your not prepared to listen to general medical professionals, why would you listen to anyone? Why blindly accept what someone else is saying on Facebook, YouTube, either? Surely logic says you should side with the most peer reviewed data? Do people just accept these alternative theories to be seen to be different? 🤷‍♂️
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

lenny

Quote from: Gmac on March 07, 2022, 10:35:52 PM
Quote from: lenny on March 07, 2022, 09:27:39 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on March 07, 2022, 09:09:45 PM
Follow the evidence, wherever it leads

Treatment with Ivermectin Is Associated with Decreased Mortality in COVID-19 Patients: Analysis of a National Federated Database

Ivermectin, more evidence
https://youtu.be/rfyOihhAD4A


Covid can cause brain damage even in mild or asymptomatic cases. We're going to have a real epidemic of dementia in a few years time.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/07/covid-can-shrink-brain-and-damage-its-tissue-finds-research
Covid has caused all sorts of brain damage but not this kind .

Right wing nut decides to ignore rigorous study by health professionals. Straight out of the Sammy Wilson and Trump playbook.

Last Man

Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 08, 2022, 10:39:38 AM
Quote from: Last Man on March 08, 2022, 10:28:36 AM
We are naturally so bidable when it comes to our health that we blindly just accept what the medics say when in effect they are just working off a list of guidelines, they just don't have time any more to offer personalised care. In fact because of the afforementioned guidelines they are not allowed to if they want to stay within the system. Green shoots of progress are starting to appear however where some medical professionals are beginning to opt out. All the same it only works if people want to take active responsibility for their own health, otherwise the current somewhat lucrative polypharmacy is your only option and good luck with that one.

But if your not prepared to listen to general medical professionals, why would you listen to anyone? Why blindly accept what someone else is saying on Facebook, YouTube, either? Surely logic says you should side with the most peer reviewed data? Do people just accept these alternative theories to be seen to be different? 🤷‍♂️
What would be the point of being different if you weren't the better for it? The NHS spend £10billion/annum treating diabetes and its complications yet some "maverick" doctors have worked out that by using a number of simple steps patients can put their disease into remmission instead of looking forward to an almost certain future of CVD, macular degeneration, amputations etc etc.
Nobody wants to know, why is that? Thankfully it hasn't happened here but in other countries doctors have been threatened with deregistration for doing the same thing. Look up Dr Gary Fettke court case in Tasmania, the establishment tried to take him out by the roots but were found out in the courty room. Personally, I believe this is symptomatic of a wider problem in health service provision currently and as result I chose to be more discerning in relation to any medical advice I am given.

trueblue1234

Quote from: Last Man on March 08, 2022, 12:09:52 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on March 08, 2022, 10:39:38 AM
Quote from: Last Man on March 08, 2022, 10:28:36 AM
We are naturally so bidable when it comes to our health that we blindly just accept what the medics say when in effect they are just working off a list of guidelines, they just don't have time any more to offer personalised care. In fact because of the afforementioned guidelines they are not allowed to if they want to stay within the system. Green shoots of progress are starting to appear however where some medical professionals are beginning to opt out. All the same it only works if people want to take active responsibility for their own health, otherwise the current somewhat lucrative polypharmacy is your only option and good luck with that one.

But if your not prepared to listen to general medical professionals, why would you listen to anyone? Why blindly accept what someone else is saying on Facebook, YouTube, either? Surely logic says you should side with the most peer reviewed data? Do people just accept these alternative theories to be seen to be different? 🤷‍♂️
What would be the point of being different if you weren't the better for it? The NHS spend £10billion/annum treating diabetes and its complications yet some "maverick" doctors have worked out that by using a number of simple steps patients can put their disease into remmission instead of looking forward to an almost certain future of CVD, macular degeneration, amputations etc etc.
Nobody wants to know, why is that? Thankfully it hasn't happened here but in other countries doctors have been threatened with deregistration for doing the same thing. Look up Dr Gary Fettke court case in Tasmania, the establishment tried to take him out by the roots but were found out in the courty room. Personally, I believe this is symptomatic of a wider problem in health service provision currently and as result I chose to be more discerning in relation to any medical advice I am given.

What's good for you, won't necessarily be good for everyone. Not everyone will be able to make the same changes due to medical and personal reasons. Changes in treatments can take time to filter through while data looked at and analysed.
But that's an aside, I could quote you links to the good treatment by the nhs of diabetes. So why have you decided that that data isn't reliable and these "maverick" doctors are? Is it better peer reviewed data? Or is it just that you want to believe it? I just want to know how you filter what to believe in and what not to?
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit