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St brigids are a club that were badly needed in that area... you have clubs every drop of a hat in west Belfast and you had one south Belfast club.

He says things to get headlines- that's just another one of them.

One thing is clear after the weekend: teams better start planning for rapid changes of approach when their kick out gets locked down.

The last few years have been like that. When Dublin were winning they were killing teams on their own kick out in the last 15 minutes. Kerry would do it to teams too - it's why they beat Derry that time.

You did wonder should mcgeeney have brought on hughes.

Be hard beat but O'Shea wouldn't get that space against some of the other teams.

Bring Dennis Hollywood on.

The shots that were coming off for Armagh last year not coming off today.

Some move. On the time thing I don't understand why the clock goes on before the ref blows the whistle to allow the free to be hit. 

Far more mobility in the Dublin team.Tyrone keeping in it rightly though.

Donegal don't play to the new rules. Too risk averse in shooting, don't kick enough and still need precision in kick outs.

That said I still wouldn't be surprised if they win...

Also no one seems to give meath a chance. I could see them winning.

Very little talk of Tyrone Dublin on this thread.

I think this too. Find it hard to believe Kerry won't really put it up to Armagh or beat them. That said paudie Clifford a loss as I think he makes them tick.

It has the same kind of likelihood as casement getting built. Another ongoing saga with just one roadblock after another and mounting costs as this happens.

"Thems the Rules" and it's the same qualification criteria for next year's system.

Maybe you might explain the rules to Milltown Row2 - he seems to think that Kildare & Offaly will be in Sam next year.
Not necessarily so - if the are both relegated from NFL Div2 then then will play in Tailteann Cup (of course Kildare may qualify for Sam by winning this year's Tailteann Cup.

Take a scenario where Antrim & Laois top Division 3 next year. They too could well be denied a place in 2026 Sam Maguire and then be relegated the following year meaning never getting opportunity to play in Sam Maguire.

The door from TC Cup to Sam Maguire is narrow and the gap in standards is widening all the time.

If only antrim could win division 3 next year...

Do you think the TC is widening it though? Funny I think Down and now Kildare have basically had the boot up the arse they needed because they should be better than they are. Westmeath are a funny one - they seem to have lost a few and are about yo yo level. I thought they were unlucky in the league but then if you want to be in the sam maguire you would need to be beating wicklow.

Clare were whipping boys this year. You have the likes of derry having to play dublin galway and armagh and then teams in clare's group just needed to beat clare to go through. Something has got to give there.

The numbers being talked about there are absolutely insane. 1.2 million a year in salaries in a Gaa club... nuts.