Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.

[Applesisapples]

Absoluely not, when you are in Britain it is right to observe the protocols. It is quite a different prospect to take an oath to the Monarch and take your seat in what is still essentially a foreign parliament.

[Nally Stand]

Does anybody feel it's a contradiction that Martin McGuinness stands for a toast to the queen yet Sinn Fein refuse to take their seats in Westminster. Just wondering what the general opinion is.

Raising a glass to someone and swearing an oath of allegience to them are two very different things (neither of which I'd support McGuinness doing right now).

Meh, they're both just protocol.

I'm sure you'd still be playing it down as such if it actually happened too eh?

[Nally Stand]

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/norman-tebbit-i-hope-real-ira-dissidents-shoot-martin-mcguinness-for-attending-state-banquet-with-queen-at-windsor-castle-30168143.html

[orangeman]

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/norman-tebbit-i-hope-real-ira-dissidents-shoot-martin-mcguinness-for-attending-state-banquet-with-queen-at-windsor-castle-30168143.html

He would say that.

[Nally Stand]

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/norman-tebbit-i-hope-real-ira-dissidents-shoot-martin-mcguinness-for-attending-state-banquet-with-queen-at-windsor-castle-30168143.html

He would say that.

Indeed. But I'd have thought that a member of the house of lords expressing a desire for the deputy first minister to be assassinated, would make the news coverage beyond just the Belfast Telegraph. Not a peep from BBC/RTÉ etc.

[orangeman]

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/norman-tebbit-i-hope-real-ira-dissidents-shoot-martin-mcguinness-for-attending-state-banquet-with-queen-at-windsor-castle-30168143.html

He would say that.

Indeed. But I'd have thought that a member of the house of lords expressing a desire for the deputy first minister to be assassinated, would make the news coverage beyond just the Belfast Telegraph. Not a peep from BBC/RTÉ etc.

It depends on the state you're in. A Belfast city councillor ended up in court recently for stuff she put on Facebook similar to this. Ok she ended up with her wrists slapped but Tebitt would get more of a by ball than a DUP councillor.

[give her dixie]

A very good article by Tommy McKearney that is worth reading


http://www.tommymckearney.com/blog-/finlandization.html

[muppet]

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/norman-tebbit-i-hope-real-ira-dissidents-shoot-martin-mcguinness-for-attending-state-banquet-with-queen-at-windsor-castle-30168143.html

He would say that.

Indeed. But I'd have thought that a member of the house of lords expressing a desire for the deputy first minister to be assassinated, would make the news coverage beyond just the Belfast Telegraph. Not a peep from BBC/RTÉ etc.

Atrocious comment from Tebbit. I'd expect some negative reaction to that in any reasonable circles.

[Nally Stand]

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/norman-tebbit-i-hope-real-ira-dissidents-shoot-martin-mcguinness-for-attending-state-banquet-with-queen-at-windsor-castle-30168143.html

He would say that.

Indeed. But I'd have thought that a member of the house of lords expressing a desire for the deputy first minister to be assassinated, would make the news coverage beyond just the Belfast Telegraph. Not a peep from BBC/RTÉ etc.

It depends on the state you're in. A Belfast city councillor ended up in court recently for stuff she put on Facebook similar to this. Ok she ended up with her wrists slapped but Tebitt would get more of a by ball than a DUP councillor.

Tebbit is a senior public figure advocating the assassination of one of Ireland's most senior politicians. There is just no good reason under the sun why he should get a by ball. What's RTÉ's excuse? Surely in their blanket coverage, with 'live updates' on their website, such a story should be fairly big? Why does it not even warrant a mention?

[orangeman]

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/norman-tebbit-i-hope-real-ira-dissidents-shoot-martin-mcguinness-for-attending-state-banquet-with-queen-at-windsor-castle-30168143.html

He would say that.

Indeed. But I'd have thought that a member of the house of lords expressing a desire for the deputy first minister to be assassinated, would make the news coverage beyond just the Belfast Telegraph. Not a peep from BBC/RTÉ etc.

It depends on the state you're in. A Belfast city councillor ended up in court recently for stuff she put on Facebook similar to this. Ok she ended up with her wrists slapped but Tebitt would get more of a by ball than a DUP councillor.

Tebbit is a senior public figure advocating the assassination of one of Ireland's most senior politicians. There is just no good reason under the sun why he should get a by ball. What's RTÉ's excuse? Surely in their blanket coverage, with 'live updates' on their website, such a story should be fairly big? Why does it not even warrant a mention?

The press are managed. We know that better than most here.

[Maguire01]

Does anybody feel it's a contradiction that Martin McGuinness stands for a toast to the queen yet Sinn Fein refuse to take their seats in Westminster. Just wondering what the general opinion is.

Raising a glass to someone and swearing an oath of allegience to them are two very different things (neither of which I'd support McGuinness doing right now).

Meh, they're both just protocol.

I'm sure you'd still be playing it down as such if it actually happened too eh?

I'd have a chuckle, same as i'm having now. But i'd be in favour of them taking their seats.

[Maguire01]

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/norman-tebbit-i-hope-real-ira-dissidents-shoot-martin-mcguinness-for-attending-state-banquet-with-queen-at-windsor-castle-30168143.html

He would say that.

Indeed. But I'd have thought that a member of the house of lords expressing a desire for the deputy first minister to be assassinated, would make the news coverage beyond just the Belfast Telegraph. Not a peep from BBC/RTÉ etc.

I don't know about RTÉ, but it's on BBC online and radio and on plenty of other news websites.

[Maguire01]

Absoluely not, when you are in Britain it is right to observe the protocols. It is quite a different prospect to take an oath to the Monarch and take your seat in what is still essentially a foreign parliament.

It's the parliament that gives the Assembly its power. And you might define it as a foreign parliament, but it still passes laws that impact on people in this country.

And you totally contradict yourself with the bit in bold.

[muppet]

Putting aside all previous debates here, I must acknowledge the gravity of McGuinness' participation and I commend it unconditionally.

[Nally Stand]

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/norman-tebbit-i-hope-real-ira-dissidents-shoot-martin-mcguinness-for-attending-state-banquet-with-queen-at-windsor-castle-30168143.html

He would say that.

Indeed. But I'd have thought that a member of the house of lords expressing a desire for the deputy first minister to be assassinated, would make the news coverage beyond just the Belfast Telegraph. Not a peep from BBC/RTÉ etc.

I don't know about RTÉ, but it's on BBC online and radio and on plenty of other news websites.

BBC went with it on their online news at 5:36 according to their news app. For most of the day, only the Belfast Telegraph was mentioning it. Still nothing from RTÉ.