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was the mother of the 16yo driving her to brands house why would a mother drive a 16yo to a man in his 30s house  thats what i have seen on some forums and comments.

Load of shite that there he got a car to take her, it was in the doc.. On the BBC news victim says "a BBC car would take her from school to Brand's house when she was 16 and he was 30"

On BBC today she said her Mum was against them meeting but Brand had told her what to say to get out of school etc. Sounds like grooming to me.

There was more than one encounter. In the full article it's detailed about the mother driving her round.

You can question the ma's wisdom but that has no bearing on whether or not Brand is a sc**bag.

I get hindsight is great and this was probaly part or his silly comedy radio show but even still how were alarm bells not going off, this clip is from 2007.

https://twitter.com/oliviamike1994/status/1703672864228995562

France made 12 changes to the side who beat New Zealand, its like a Premier league side playing a minnow in the League cup in that they make wholesale changes knowing they will win anyway. You will see it if you look back on previous Wold Cup winners where they rotate and win with a poor performance. I would read nothing into it, France still favourites as it stands for me.

Bournemouth, Vallacano and Swansea all pay better than the FAI. And there's also no chance the FAI have the cash to buy anyone out of an existing contract.

International jobs are a hard sell to any manager on the up. They're even harder to sell when the international team is a bit shit. And harder again when the shit international team has no money.

Kenny's replacement will not be someone with a red hot, recent track record. It'll be some dinosaur who did things in the 90s but can't get a look in at a club gig anymore, or Kenny 2.0 in the shape of Duff or Keith Andrews.

Ok if they have no money and a poor squad Im not sure why they should get rid of Kenny at all. He has them playing decent football even against World cup finalists. If the answer is just get rid of Kenny and throw some darts at some random former players with little or no coaching record then things could get much worse.

I'm not sure how oblivious some are to the financial realities of the situation, but it is beyond mental to suggest that the FAI could compete with top tier English, Italian or Spanish clubs for the services of successful, up-and-coming managers. And it's even more absurd to think such managers would want to sidetrack their careers with a stint in charge of a mid-to-lower tier international team.

Someone like Carsley is the best we can hope for, and it's very doubtful that he'd even be interested. He's not getting the senior England job - they'll go big on that when they ditch Southgate. But a Championship club will take a punt on him eventually, which would probably be a better career move than the Ireland job.

The alternatives to Kenny are depressing - auld fellas so far behind the times that the club scene has forgotten about them. Or another LOI graduate like Damien Duff.

I mentioned Andoni Iraola and Graham Potter. Brighton picked Potter from Swansea who had got him from Östersund in the Swedish league. Iraola was with midtable Rayo Vallacano in La Liga and is now manager of those giants of football Bournemouth. The point Im making is the type of manager could be out there with a bit of scouting but we look at ex players who have done very little.

Jesus neither of those are whats needed. Kenny has not got the results and does not have the best of squads at his disposal (one of the main reasons he got the job if we are honest) but to give him his due he is trying to get us to play a certain brand of football.

I think the FAI should go looking for a similar coach to continue this but someone who has done it at a higher level, i.e Seria A, La Liga, Premier League or even the Championship. So someone who had to work with a limited player base and got them to play these style of football but got results. For example Graham Potter took over from Hughton at Brighton who were long ball merchants and changed them into proper passing/possession side on a limited budget very quickly. Im not saying we would be able to get Potter (although he is currently out of work) but someone like that. For example Bournemouth got a new manager called Iraola who earned a good reputation for the job he did at Rayo Vallacano with a limited bunch on a small budget but again got them playing attacking football and even beat some of the big boys.

We should at least try and get managers who have some modicum of success behind them at playing this way, then you could put Kenny in charge of the underage set up to try and ensure we have a conveyor belt of players coming through who are used to this style.

After the first round of games, and I know maybe it doesn't mean anything , but so far so good for Ireland. France and SA have work to do and NZ look disorganised.

Ireland played nobody and while get an easy start to the competition, their two by far hardest games are their last two.

France are OK, neutered a hotly fancied NZ, who do have a lot to do but will still qualify.

SA have a win under their belts against a banana skin opponent, so even if they do get beat by Ireland they should be OK.

Romania doesn't matter. What counts is what Ireland learnt since 2019. S&C, discipline, quality of subs etc. So far there is no outstanding team.
NZ are probably focused on the knockout stage.
If Ireland do get beaten in the qf it will be because the other team was clearly better. Not because Ireland didn't learn anything.
If you are beaten like that you can't argue. But if you do the learnings you have a higher chance of winning.

Surely France are the outstanding team, I get it was not knockout but they came back twice against All Blacks and by the end were totally dominant of the Southern Hemisphere champions. That was best match so far with Wales v Fiji a close second. South Africa did what they do best and ground out a result which would have been easier if their kicker could do his job.

Obviously a long way to go but France are the big winners so far, they can rotate comfortably and still top the group and prepare for runners up in our group.

Argentina very poor tonight.

After beating strong teams this year, they were very disappointing.  Especially as England went a man down after 2 mins.

Every competitive game against decent opposition that the Argies play, they are underdogs. They were going into this game as even money, slight favs with some. After 3 mins they became hot favs. They knew they had to win, but forced everything.  Couldn't handle the expectation. Countlesss errors.

People use 'bottled' too often when it just happens the opposition are better on the day. But this was 100% a bottle job. All England did was keep it simple and take points when available. And that was enough against a team that was shooting themselves in the foot continuously.

As for Ireland, it was job done. Sexton very impressive. Bundee great. And plenty to improve on. Earls can't start any more though, hopefully that's the last we see of the great man.

100%.
Given the games against South Africa and Australia in particular this summer, I genuinely thought Argentina could do something special this tournament given the side of the draw they were on. But as you say they are use to playing with freedom as they are always underdogs. It was like they forgot how to play rugby against England.
Im not sure on the stats but I believe the average points conceded when you have a player in sin bin (10 mins) is something like 7 points, Argentina played almost 70 mins with and extra player and scored 3 points. They could not string 3 passes together and gave away penalty after penalty, it was shocking. I get England played well but if they go down a man for that long against a France or NZ it would be a cricket score.

Surely Ireland need to look for a club manager who had some success with improving players who were good to average players and have a system of play to brings some success.

I'm not saying they could get him but a person like Graham Potter springs to mind (insert wizard/magic joke/pun here). He took over a Brighton team who played a very defensive style due to the limited players they had, Potter came in a turned them into a passing team who could compete with so called better teams. He would also be an ideal continuation and improvement on the work Kenny has been trying to do. After his experience with Chelsea he might like an international job.

Whether you like rugby or not, that's a tasty opener coming up, and if we get out of our group we meet one of them.

I'm looking forward to watching it. But does the result really matter?

Id imagine both will want to lay down a marker but agree there could be a bit of shadow boxing also given it would not be much of a shock if they end up meeting in the final. It should help Ireland that NZ play France (so should know potential quarter final opponents depending on group position if they qualify) and South Africa play Scotland before Irelands first real test against the South Africans.

I think France will be very hard to beat on home turf but given the draw I could see Argentina doing very well.

Has form been a good predictor in any previous world cups?

It certainly has not been a good predictor when it comes to Ireland, you could probably argue we have been the most underperforming side in World cups, hopefully this year we buck the trend and at least get to a semi final.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/66656941

https://twitter.com/mufcMPB/status/1699053022209249409?t=PT8pb8P_soUksRvq8y3-yw&s=19

Liverpool would have taken hand and all if they had someone else lined up, a bit late in the day now to get a replacement in.

How's Argentinas form heading into this tournament?  They've got a great draw and if they can heat England could be facing a quarter final against Wales or fiji

They have every chance of reaching a semi final, in fact they would be the best of the so called outsiders to win it if you fancied a punt.

They are in Group D with England, Samoa, Japan and Chile, all of whom they are more than capable of beating.

Top that group and they play 2nd place in in Group C which contains Australia, Wales & Fiji in the quarter finals. Again more than capable of beating all 3.

If they reach the semi finals they will face one of the big hitters of South Africa/All Blacks/France/Ireland, whoever it is will have just had serious matches to get through and might have taken a bit out of them and a similar story if they were to reach the final.

Lets remember they are used to playing the big hitters. Just back in July the beat Australia in Sydney and only lost by 1 point to South Africa in Johannesburg so on that form its seems odd that they would be bigger odds than a struggling England side.

[1. France]

A good article about ranking sides in the World cup. Hard to argue with it too much:

1. France

In the eyes of many experts, France are the front-runners to become the second Northern Hemisphere side ever to be crowned world champions after England's victory 20 years ago.

There were plenty of signs in 2019 of what the French could be capable of in the long run, and in the four years between World Cups they have developed into a formidable opponent. With former Wales coach Shaun Edwards in charge of their defence, France now have the discipline which has previously been missing, and are a very difficult side to beat who are comfortable soaking up pressure.

France have a pack which can go toe to toe with any side in the world while their attack is as potent as its ever been. Fabien Galthie's side only need a small amount of possession to cut any side in the world to shreds.
They also have world class players littered throughout their side, including generational talent Antoine Dupont. La Rochelle No 8 Gregory Alldritt, centre Gael Fickou, wing Damian Penaud, and props Cyrill Baille are among the best in their positions in the world.

The loss of star outside-half Romain Ntamack is a huge blow although Bordeaux playmaker Mathieu Jallibert is no mug. It will be interesting to see how France cope with the enormous pressure on their shoulders but as far as we are concerned they are the favourites.

2. South Africa

The Springboks arguably have a stronger squad now than the one who were crowned world champions four years ago.

There is no side in the world who can match the raw power and the physicality of the Springboks, who are capable of battering anyone into submission. Their scrum is a destructive weapon with their driving lineout almost unstoppable, while the likes of Eben Etzebeth, Steven Kitshoff, Malcolm Marx, and Syia Kolisi would be contenders for a world XV.

They also have plenty of firepower behind the scrum although they have lost influential outside-half Handre Pollard, and the world's best outside centre Lukanyo Am to injury. There's still tons of stardust though with the mercurial Mannie Libbok pulling the strings at number 10, while the likes of Cheslin Kolbe, Makazolo Mapimpi, Willie Le Roux, and Canan Moodie are able to cut any side in the world to shreds.

A Frances versus South Africa final is a real possibility.

3. Ireland

Officially Ireland are the world's best side, and it's hard to disagree with the rankings given they recently won a Six Nations Grand Slam, and won an historic first test series against the All Blacks in New Zealand last summer.

Ireland have been fancied before past World Cups only to fall flat on their faces at the actual tournament but this is the best side ever to have left the Emerald Isle. Andy Farrell has taken Ireland's game to another level, building on the superb work done by Joe Schmidt.

They have an extremely physical pack of forwards littered with ball carriers, a strong set-piece while they are arguably the best exponents of breakdown play in the world. Unlike South Africa their game is extremely layered, with their attacking game very intricate.

Ireland have so much control from half-back with Jamison Gibson-Park and Johnny Sexton, while upfront Tadhg Furlong, Dan Sheehan, Tadhg Beirne, and Josh van der Flier are world class players. The problem Ireland have is they rely so heavily on Sexton at number 10, and as former Dragons coach Bernard Jackman recently said, if the Leinster playmaker gets injured it cuts his sides chances of lifting the Webb-Ellis Cup by 20%.

4. New Zealand

Some bookmakers have New Zealand down as favourites but they aren't invincible as they once were. The All Blacks have recovered from a poor 2022 to win the Rugby Championship but a 35-7 hiding by South Africa at Twickenham last weekend was a reminder they are far from unbeatable.

Having said that, at their best the All Blacks are among the best sides in the world, and if they bring their A game stand a good chance of winning their fourth World Cup. New forwards coach Jason Ryan has transformed their pack, although they do tend to struggle against the bigger sides.

But if the All Blacks win quick front foot ball they have the best attacking game in the world with the likes of Beauden Barrett, Will Jordan and Mark Telea capable of running riot, while No 8 Ardie Savea is a phenomenal player. The key for them is winning front foot ball, and if they can do that then they can unlock any defence in the world.

5. Scotland

Scotland are the most improved side in world rugby with Gregor Towsend having done a tremendous job in turning around their fortunes.

The Scots may not have the best pack in the world, although they often hold their own, but their attacking game is a sight to behold. With the likes of the mercurial Finn Russell and giant wing Duhan van der Merwe in their ranks Scotland have plenty of tries in them, and often score up to 30 points a game.

Despite their obvious qualities they have struggled to turn great performances into winning results although that is slowly changing. The big problem Scotland have is they have been drawn in the same pool as Ireland, South Africa, and a very dangerous Tonga side.

Only a fool would totally discount Scotland's chances of causing an upset but despite how good they have become, Ireland and South Africa are just a little bit better. Still, there's plenty of quality and attacking prowess in this Scotland side, and they certainly won't die wondering.

6. Argentina

The Pumas have made huge strides since joining the Rugby Championship. Over the last four years Argentina have beaten New Zealand (twice), South Africa, Australia, England, Scotland, and Wales.

Put simply, they are no mugs and on their day are capable of beating any side in the world. The biggest obstacle to their progression has been the Jaguares leaving Super Rugby, leaving their best players plying their trades all around the world, making it very difficult to get any sort of cohesion or continuity.

What Argentina are is a very difficult side to play, and they have a set of forwards who can match any side physically while there is a lot of finishing prowess out wide. Ironically, their biggest Achilles heel is their scrum but they do have arguably the world's best goal kicker in Emilano Boffelli.

Given they have ended up on the so-called right side of the draw, Argentina have every chance of reaching what would be their third World Cup semi-final.

7. Australia

The Wallabies have lost all five test matches since Eddie Jones took over from Dave Rennie this season but they aren't as bad a side as their results suggest.

Australia always have at least one big result in them at every World Cup, and have an abundance of talent throughout their squad. Their performances have been getting better each game, and one senses they just need the one big result to get things going in their favour.

One thing they have got is a dominant scrum while their forwards are more dominant than they are given credit for with the likes of gigantic La Rochelle lock Will Skelton, prop Taniela Tupou, openside Fraser McReight, and blindside Tom Hooper all top end forwards. They have been creating plenty of opportunities with things not quite sticking but that is not far off changing.

Could still be the dark horse at the World Cup with there being so much growth in their game.

8. England

I can already hear the screams of derision at ranking England higher than Fiji given they were beaten by the Pacific Islanders at Twickenham last weekend.

England are in disarray but they do have the tools to fix this problem. What Steve Borthwick has got is a strong pack of forwards, albeit not as strong as the likes of South Africa, France and Ireland, along with some quality players behind the scrum.

For all his issues, Owen Farrell is a world class player while George Ford is a real smart operator. Remember the 2007 World Cup where England got annihilated by the Springboks in the pool stages but ended up making the final?

I'm not saying that will happen this time but they've got the cattle to patch up their current issues, and at the very least make the knockout stages.

9. Wales

It has not been a pleasant two years for Wales to say the least, with the men in red having lost home tests to Italy and Georgia, respectively.

Since Warren Gatland returned to the helm, replacing Wayne Pivac, he has faced a race against time to get Wales into a place where they can be competitive at the World Cup. Gatland has pushed his side to the limit in brutal training camps over the summer which the New Zealander hopes will pay dividends this autumn.

Wales have some quality players in Louis Rees-Zammit, Dan Biggar, Liam Williams, Dewi Lake, Will Rowlands and Jac Morgan but they have fundamental issues at the set-piece, while their physicality in the front five hasn't been where it needs to be.

But Gatland has a tremendous track record at getting Wales to raise their game at the World Cup, and if they can beat a very dangerous Fiji side first up then anything is possible.

Rest of the pack

10. Fiji

Over the past fortnight Fiji have proven they can compete with the best of sides having performed admirably in defeat against France, and beaten England at Twickenham.

Make no bones about it, this will be the best prepared Fiji side ever to arrive at a World Cup. Fiji's devastating brilliance in broken field is no secret but this side is very comfortable playing a structured game.

Historically, their weaknesses has been the scrum and their game management but that is not the case this time with young outside-half Caleb Muntz a very capable all-round player who can play conservatively and loosely. They also have some serious talent in Edinburgh No 8 Viliame Mata, centre Semi Radradra along with wings Josua Tuisova and Selestino Ravutaumada.

11. Samoa

Samoa are no mugs, and should have beaten Ireland last weekend. The Pacific Islanders, who are coached by former London Irish centre Seilala Mapusua, are extremely physical while their scrum took Ireland to the cleaners last weekend.

They have a host of former All Blacks such as outside-half Lima Sopoaga, prop Charlie Faumuina, and Bristol Bears loose forward Steven Luatua. Having been drawn in the same pool as Argentina, England, and Japan they are up against it in terms of making the knockout stages but don't rule them out causing at least one upset.

12. Italy

Italy are the annual whipping boys of the Six Nations but have gradually been improving the level of their performances, even beating both Wales and Australia over the past 18 months.

The Azzurri have a capable pack of forwards who can give any opposition a bloody nose, while they are more dangerous than they've ever been behind the scrum, with Montpellier playmaker Paolo Garbisi and Toulouse star Ange Capuozzo one of the deadliest broken field runners in the world game.

They are unlikely to trouble either France or New Zealand in their pool.

13. Tonga

Tonga haven't exactly pulled up any trees in terms of results but on paper they have a very capable squad. They have benefited more than anyone else from the change in eligibility criteria, and have a host of former All Blacks and Wallabies in their squad.

The likes of Malakai Fekitoa, George Moala, Vaea Fifita, Charles Piutau, Adam Coleman, and Sam Lousi are top end players and would get into the starting sides of many tier one nations. They have been drawn in the pool of death alongside South Africa, Scotland, and Ireland so progressing to the quarter-finals is probably out of the equation but don't rule Tonga out from causing at least one upset.

14. Japan

The Brave Blossoms turned the rugby world upside down with their phenomenal victory over South Africa in 2015, which will rightly go down as one of the greatest upsets in the history of sport. Under Jamie Joseph they then went on to reach the quarter-finals for the first time four years ago, beating both Ireland and Scotland.

But they have struggled badly of late, and lack the forward power to make an impact in France. It is very unlikely they will be able to repeat their past exploits this time around.

15. Georgia

Georgia have dominated the second tier of European rugby and are pushing hard to join the Six Nations although that door remains firmly shut for now.

The Lelos have underlined their credentials with a stunning victory over Wales in Cardiff last November, and have a pack of forwards which can make life very uncomfortable for most sides. Their problem is they lack the cutting edge behind the scrum to be able to transfer their forward dominance into points.

16. Romania

Romania are keen to make an impact in France and have appointed former Scotland head coach Vern Cotter as a consultant. The Romanian's will be physical up-front but have they got the guile behind the scrum to make an impact?

Their key player is centre Taylor Gontineac who is part of Clermont Auvergne's system.

17. Portugal

A last-gasp penalty against the United States last year fired Portugal into their second World Cup. Portugal are coached by former France centre Patrice Lagisquet and have a number of players who ply their trade as professionals in France.

Their standout player is wing Rodrigo Marta who plays for Dax in the PRO D2, and is the top try scorer in Portugal's history.

18. Uruguay

Uruguay are regulars at the Rugby World Cup but have failed to make much of an impact. This time they have been drawn in a pool including New Zealand, France, Italy, and Namibia so reaching the last eight is virtually impossible.

By far their most accomplished player is Castres scrum-half Santiago Arata who has been likened in style to Antoine Dupont.

19. Namibia

This isn't the first World Cup Namibia have participated in but they have yet to win a game at rugby's showpiece event. This time they have plenty of experienced heads in their pack including Bayonne hooker Torsten van Jaarsveld, Johan Deysel and JC Greyling, Their best chance of claiming a result is bound to come against Uruguay.

20. Chile

Chile qualified for their first World Cup with after they overturned a 20-point deficit in the first leg of their World Cup qualifier to eventually beat the USA 52-51 on aggregate.

They are coached by Pablo Lemoine who appeared in two World Cup's as a player for Uruguay. Their key player could be outside-half Rodrigo Fernandez who received the award for men's try of the year after a tremendous individual score against the USA.