The Social Investment Fund

Started by Man Marker, November 18, 2016, 01:19:19 PM

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Man Marker

Some craic about Dee Stitt and the social investment fund. It seems to me like the unionists have shot them selves in the foot over this one. Whilst the initial hoohaa was all about Stitt and Charter NI, it has moved now to the layers involved in the scheme getting publically peeled back. At the core o itf, the reason why The DUP back in 2011 did not want it to have a proper procurement model in place is because the majority amount of the money available would have went to catholic areas based on the most deprived areas of need under the procurement criteria. SF had to agree to it or there would have been nothing at all to distribute, and something was better then nothing. Arlene had the opportunity to put this to bed, but her pandering to loyalism has now opened the can of worms. This will end up being a good day for deprived catholic areas.

Minder

Quote from: Man Marker on November 18, 2016, 01:19:19 PM
Some craic about Dee Stitt and the social investment fund. It seems to me like the unionists have shot them selves in the foot over this one. Whilst the initial hoohaa was all about Stitt and Charter NI, it has moved now to the layers involved in the scheme getting publically peeled back. At the core o itf, the reason why The DUP back in 2011 did not want it to have a proper procurement model in place is because the majority amount of the money available would have went to catholic areas based on the most deprived areas of need under the procurement criteria. SF had to agree to it or there would have been nothing at all to distribute, and something was better then nothing. Arlene had the opportunity to put this to bed, but her pandering to loyalism has now opened the can of worms. This will end up being a good day for deprived catholic areas.
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In what way ?
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

Man Marker

If, and that's an if this has a proper independent investigation and with recommendations, it will recommend that the Social Investment Fund has it has at the heart of its criteria, when it goes out to procurement, that those wards who have highest deprivation will benefit most from the fund. Catholic wards dominate the wards of highest deprivation.

Minder

Quote from: Man Marker on November 18, 2016, 01:45:26 PM
If, and that's an if this has a proper independent investigation and with recommendations, it will recommend that the Social Investment Fund has it has at the heart of its criteria, when it goes out to procurement, that those wards who have highest deprivation will benefit most from the fund. Catholic wards dominate the wards of highest deprivation.

Yeah and the money will go to the same people on our side and nobody sees a penny but them and their families, suppose that's the price we pay for the "peace process"
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

Man Marker

No, about 10% goes to the 'same people' the rest does address what its meant to do, except currently it is not based on greatest need

The Gs Man

I'm busting for a Dee Stitt.

New Belfast rhyming slang.
Keep 'er lit

Hereiam

Good to see charter ni back in the spot light. DUP really are looking after there own

T Fearon

Obvious attempt to get the loyalist communities to vote for the DUP.But SF acquiesced willingly in all of this.

Owen Brannigan

Quote from: T Fearon on October 12, 2017, 07:15:57 AM
Obvious attempt to get the loyalist communities to vote for the DUP.But SF acquiesced willingly in all of this.

If you watched the programme SF guided millions to their own favoured organisations in North Belfast, e.g. Ashton who were able to show that SF was providing money for the electorate so not much different from East Belfast.  The money to North Belfast guided in a SF influenced direction ignored vital organisations such as Extern (working with homeless in city) that didn't get any money but provided a vital service to families in the area. Yet the person running the organisation receiving the most SIF was appointed the chair of the body by giving out the money!  Ashton got £5.8m but took £2m for itself, so not great value for the locals when almost a third of money is needed to deliver the money to the locals in need but even worse value when a small area of North Belfast gets more money than another single organisation in NI.

Integrity & Honesty.

Minder

It was always going to be a racket, and has played out that way. SF & DUP where last going to be hoovering it up for their own proxy organisations
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

Hereiam

I suppose its a better way to give out money to the riff raff other than robbing the northern bank

Minder

Quote from: Hereiam on October 12, 2017, 11:00:53 AM
I suppose its a better way to give out money to the riff raff other than robbing the northern bank

The "riff raff" don't get it though, that's the thing. The people running the organisations do
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

Owen Brannigan

Quote from: Minder on October 12, 2017, 11:04:16 AM
Quote from: Hereiam on October 12, 2017, 11:00:53 AM
I suppose its a better way to give out money to the riff raff other than robbing the northern bank

The "riff raff" don't get it though, that's the thing. The people running the organisations do

Ashton in North Belfast taking £2m to administer a funding allowance of £5.8m.  35% of all money awarded goes to the organisation charged with ensuring the less well off get some help!

T Fearon

Did I not read somewhere that on average All grant money,including European funds,incur on average,40% administrative and salary costs.

Minder

#14
Didn't see this coming  ::)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-46109733

Social Investment Fund: Audit reveals 'significant failings'
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"