Money, Dublin and the GAA

Started by IolarCoisCuain, October 04, 2016, 07:27:37 PM

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TheGreatest

Quote from: five points on February 09, 2021, 10:28:07 AM
Quote from: TheGreatest on February 08, 2021, 04:53:13 PM
Quote from: five points on February 08, 2021, 03:49:07 PM
Common denominator here. Leave Dublin alone but twist, bend and break the weaker counties.

Am I missing something?

Why split Dublin or in other words punish Dublin? Oh the population argument, 1.4 million males between the ages of 18-35 who play Gaelic footfall and senior club football.

When the inevitable happens with certain counties exiting the provisional and all Ireland championship, why not give them another bite of the cherry as a regional team? Gives some players a chance to enter the fray late into the championship and complete at the Q/F S/F and final stage. Similar to the Kerry model.

And no I'm not Pat Gilroy.

Because when you find yourself anywhere with a structural problem caused by the dominance of one entity in a group of 32, it makes more sense to address the problem by making changes to that entity than to the other 31.

If it is your opinion the problem is the Dublin Senior Footballers and not other factors. If you were splitting Dublin in 4 say, is it satisfactory to split the Hurling team too? possible having 3 to 4 div 2 and div 3 teams, only the other top 7 or 8 teams are allowed to compete for all irelands.

five points

Quote from: TheGreatest on February 09, 2021, 10:57:22 AM

If it is your opinion the problem is the Dublin Senior Footballers and not other factors. If you were splitting Dublin in 4 say, is it satisfactory to split the Hurling team too? possible having 3 to 4 div 2 and div 3 teams, only the other top 7 or 8 teams are allowed to compete for all irelands.

Your point here is unclear. Can you maybe reword it please?

TheGreatest

Sorry, if it is your opinion and others that the greatest problem facing the GAA today is the Dublin senior football team only and because they are winning and dominating (remains to be seen what happens over the next few years) and the  solution offered is to split them in 4 (county council areas), what you would also be creating and diminishing and punishing is Dublin hurling who are just about competing at senior level and miles away from an all Ireland, splitting them in 4 you will end up with 3 teams probably competing in division 3 and 4 and maybe south Dublin might scrape 1.B or 2. Even a 2 way split would be decremental.

Based on the above point, Should Dublin be allowed to compete for an All Ireland Hurling championship as a whole county? Should the Hurling players be punished for the success of the Footballers? is the Senior Hurling championship a better place with Dublin in it considering that a lot of counties are only interested in Football and in some counties couldn't care less about it, do nothing to promote it and look down there noses at it?

five points

Dublin hurling has already been split though, albeit for leagues.

TheGreatest

Quote from: five points on February 09, 2021, 11:15:17 AM
Dublin hurling has already been split though, albeit for leagues.

Yeah Dublin Fingal, didnt work out.

Questions still there for you all to answer.

Rossfan

If Kerry, Antrim and Galway hurlers can play in the "Leinster" Championship I'm sure the GAA can continue that flexible arrangement to allow an All Dublin hurling team to take part as well.
How many of the 39,000 would be primarily hurlers or hurlers only?
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

reillycavan

Quote from: Rossfan on February 09, 2021, 12:22:45 PM
If Kerry, Antrim and Galway hurlers can play in the "Leinster" Championship I'm sure the GAA can continue that flexible arrangement to allow an All Dublin hurling team to take part as well.
How many of the 39,000 would be primarily hurlers or hurlers only?

I thought Dublin 1.5 million players  Tom???

Dearg

Dublin are brilliant. I have nothing but respect for them.
The greatest Gaelic Football team of all time and they should be respected and treated as such.


reillycavan

Quote from: Dearg on February 13, 2021, 08:48:38 AM
Dublin are brilliant. I have nothing but respect for them.
The greatest Gaelic Football team of all time and they should be respected and treated as such.

Welcome on board Des Cahill

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Rossfan on February 08, 2021, 03:42:28 PM
There are many changes could be made to competition structures BUT Dublin will still have 1.4m people and 39,000 players.
It's like having Manchester City in the Irish Soccer league.

Have you even been to Dublin?

39,000 is only a bit more than Cork  have with 1/8th of the population. Playing numbers are a problem

Rossfan

Cork have 23,000 most of which would be hurling.
There are more than 156,000 people on Cork.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Rossfan on February 13, 2021, 11:49:07 PM
Cork have 23,000 most of which would be hurling.
There are more than 156,000 people on Cork.

Incorrect.

There are 33,832 registerd players in Cork versus 39,197 in Dublin

6.2% of the population of Cork are registered GAA players. Leitrim 11.4%. Kerry 9.9%.  Dublin  2.9%

The weight of numbers argument is a myth


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.balls.ie/amp/gaa/gaa-investment-in-dublin-348120

From the Bunker

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 14, 2021, 04:22:53 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 13, 2021, 11:49:07 PM
Cork have 23,000 most of which would be hurling.
There are more than 156,000 people on Cork.

Incorrect.

There are 33,832 registerd players in Cork versus 39,197 in Dublin

6.2% of the population of Cork are registered GAA players. Leitrim 11.4%. Kerry 9.9%.  Dublin  2.9%

The weight of numbers argument is a myth


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.balls.ie/amp/gaa/gaa-investment-in-dublin-348120



So why are 33,832 registered players in Cork given less money for development versus 39,197 in Dublin?

What is the logic?

dublin7

Quote from: From the Bunker on February 14, 2021, 04:46:48 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 14, 2021, 04:22:53 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 13, 2021, 11:49:07 PM
Cork have 23,000 most of which would be hurling.
There are more than 156,000 people on Cork.

Incorrect.

There are 33,832 registerd players in Cork versus 39,197 in Dublin

6.2% of the population of Cork are registered GAA players. Leitrim 11.4%. Kerry 9.9%.  Dublin  2.9%

The weight of numbers argument is a myth


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.balls.ie/amp/gaa/gaa-investment-in-dublin-348120



So why are 33,832 registered players in Cork given less money for development versus 39,197 in Dublin?

What is the logic?
The numbers are the logic. They're trying to increase playing numbers in Dublin.

From the Bunker

Quote from: dublin7 on February 14, 2021, 05:26:38 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on February 14, 2021, 04:46:48 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 14, 2021, 04:22:53 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on February 13, 2021, 11:49:07 PM
Cork have 23,000 most of which would be hurling.
There are more than 156,000 people on Cork.

Incorrect.

There are 33,832 registerd players in Cork versus 39,197 in Dublin

6.2% of the population of Cork are registered GAA players. Leitrim 11.4%. Kerry 9.9%.  Dublin  2.9%

The weight of numbers argument is a myth


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.balls.ie/amp/gaa/gaa-investment-in-dublin-348120



So why are 33,832 registered players in Cork given less money for development versus 39,197 in Dublin?

What is the logic?
The numbers are the logic. They're trying to increase playing numbers in Dublin.

And are they? Or are they making elite players and clubs out the huge funding?