County Manager Merry go round

[marty34]

You'd think Lyng would get the KK gig - served his apprenticeship under Cody and did really well with a decent bunch at U20 this year.

McGrath would fit Waterford well you'd think.

Davy Fitz - would Dublin take him?

Laois are still looking also.

County boards, I presume, would like the management teams in place asap as the club championships are under way.

[J70]

You would think that if Jimmy McGuinness doesn't go back into Donegal now that he will not be returning to county management in the near future.

The position is vacant at a time when he has no full time coaching position and they have a bunch of players who have underachieved in the last few years. They probably lack a bit of leadership on and off the field especially now that Murphy is a fading force. On the other hand if he goes back to GAA he would probably be perceived as a failure as a soccer coach and he may question why he spent 8 years getting ready to go into soccer management only to turn his back on it without any success. Its strange that a LOI team wouldn't take a punt on him given his track record in management.

Although McGuinness was an ultra defensive coach and entirely changed the way gaelic football was played, I think he is also a pragmatic manager and would simply play the best type of football that could get him success. In whatever form that takes.

Is he not coaching Derry City youths?

I think he was third coach to their U21 team (assistant to the assistant coach) which is well down the pecking order.

It's not a bit surprising that his soccer career hasn't gone anywhere - In his only stint as a manager Charlotte won 1 game of the 14 he was in charge for and then after he left they won 8 from 20 in the remaining games and the season before he was there had won 10 from 34. There isn't any way to spin those numbers as anything positive.

The Harps position might come up if Ollie Horgan decides he's had enough after they go down this year.

Or maybe Ollie enjoys the incredible lengths he has to go to in performing miracles every year scraping a squad of kids and obscure second chancers together to try to keep them in the premier league. Especially now that the Stranorlar stadium looks to be back on track.

But is McGuinness even qualified to manage a LOI team?

He should take the county job. He's a smart lad and it will be a challenge for him to see if he can adapt to the new tactical era.

[marty34]

You would think that if Jimmy McGuinness doesn't go back into Donegal now that he will not be returning to county management in the near future.

The position is vacant at a time when he has no full time coaching position and they have a bunch of players who have underachieved in the last few years. They probably lack a bit of leadership on and off the field especially now that Murphy is a fading force. On the other hand if he goes back to GAA he would probably be perceived as a failure as a soccer coach and he may question why he spent 8 years getting ready to go into soccer management only to turn his back on it without any success. Its strange that a LOI team wouldn't take a punt on him given his track record in management.

Although McGuinness was an ultra defensive coach and entirely changed the way gaelic football was played, I think he is also a pragmatic manager and would simply play the best type of football that could get him success. In whatever form that takes.

Is he not coaching Derry City youths?

I think he was third coach to their U21 team (assistant to the assistant coach) which is well down the pecking order.

It's not a bit surprising that his soccer career hasn't gone anywhere - In his only stint as a manager Charlotte won 1 game of the 14 he was in charge for and then after he left they won 8 from 20 in the remaining games and the season before he was there had won 10 from 34. There isn't any way to spin those numbers as anything positive.

The Harps position might come up if Ollie Horgan decides he's had enough after they go down this year.

Or maybe Ollie enjoys the incredible lengths he has to go to in performing miracles every year scraping a squad of kids and obscure second chancers together to try to keep them in the premier league. Especially now that the Stranorlar stadium looks to be back on track.

But is McGuinness even qualified to manage a LOI team?

He should take the county job. He's a smart lad and it will be a challenge for him to see if he can adapt to the new tactical era.

Did he not 'invent' the new tactical era?

[seafoid]

Far to many big personalities, end up falling out like they did in Roscommon. Who will McStay throw under the bus after a year or 2 of inevitable failure.

Operatic failure goes with the Mayo job


It's like you're screaming, and no one can hear
You almost feel ashamed
That a county  could be that important
That without it, you feel like nothing
No one will ever understand how much it hurts
You feel hopeless; like nothing can save you
And when it's over, and it's gone
You almost wish that you could have all that bad stuff back
So that you could have the Allstars



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg00YEETFzg

[thejuice]

Well. We're in the Colm O'Rourke era now. I was hoping we would look outside the county. However we shall see. Colms punditry doesn't inspire me too much in terms of his understanding of the modern game but he has a decent track record as a manager but not stellar and nothing at inter-county level. I wish he took the Meath job after Colm Coyle as it feels a bit late for him now. However of the candidates that actually put themselves forward he was clearly the strongest. Funny thing is his candidacy wasn't known widely about in the last few weeks.

[5times5times]

At least if McStay gets the Mayo job, that 2 dosses that'll be off the airways.

All we need is Kavanagh to get the Tyrone job and RTE will almost get near sky with their punditry!

[Cunny Funt]

With Eamon Fitzmaurice assistant manager and coach and Donie Buckley coach and Jimmy McGuinnes s and c coach also involved strong looking management team.

Got a link to such info?

It's all over the county at moment and We are Meath podcast which is main official Meath gaa podcast which always breaks news in the county gaa wise, it has links to county board. We are Meath podcast has said Eamon Fitzmaurice is strongly touted as being member of O Rourkes management team as assistant manager and coach. They said Donie Buckley as coach also. The podcast always breaks news whose new on the panel whose leaving oanel any managerial appointments. All over the county Fitzmaurice Buckley names are being mentioned. O Rourke does build big management teams. At Simontowns when he managed he had management of over 20 people for that Meath senior club. You would expect a big management team under Colm.

Buckley is part of McStays proposed Mayo management. Still no word in the national media that Jim McGuinness Eamon Fitzmaurice will be part of O'Rourke management.

[Real Talk]

It takes an awful lot of money to fund County Management team and all the hidden costs associated with team analyists,  medical back up physios etc.  And while for eg pundits talk about Galway just needing a few more quality players to make them more competitive in 2023 while at the same time they probably have a few top players like Conroy who is at the other end of his career ..... it can become a very risking business waiting on players to develop a team ..... I think young aspiring county players will catch on very quickly if there is enough talent within their squad to win firstly a Provinceinal title not to mention Sam or Liam .... and all the best management personal in the world won't make any difference.

[BillyFlynnfromTrim]

With Eamon Fitzmaurice assistant manager and coach and Donie Buckley coach and Jimmy McGuinnes s and c coach also involved strong looking management team.

Got a link to such info?

It's all over the county at moment and We are Meath podcast which is main official Meath gaa podcast which always breaks news in the county gaa wise, it has links to county board. We are Meath podcast has said Eamon Fitzmaurice is strongly touted as being member of O Rourkes management team as assistant manager and coach. They said Donie Buckley as coach also. The podcast always breaks news whose new on the panel whose leaving oanel any managerial appointments. All over the county Fitzmaurice Buckley names are being mentioned. O Rourke does build big management teams. At Simontowns when he managed he had management of over 20 people for that Meath senior club. You would expect a big management team under Colm.

Buckley is part of McStays proposed Mayo management. Still no word in the national media that Jim McGuinness Eamon Fitzmaurice will be part of O'Rourke management.

Yes there is.
The Star Newspaper, a  national newspaper said at end of last week that Eamon Fitzmaurice has being linked with being part of Meaths management set up as assitant manager and coach. They also said Donie Buckley could be involved in Meath management team also. The Star newspaper asked Colm O Rourke about Eamon Fitzmaurice as part of his management team and Buckley also dnd O Rourke didn't rule either out. They asked him about Fitzmaurice and he didnt rule it out. If Fitzmaurice wasn't in talks he would have said straight out no.
O Rourke said basically be believe in big strong management with many Individuals with different roles to play.
When O Rourke managed Simontown to two Meath senior club titles in a row he had management team of over 20 people. O Rourke has always stated a big management team is needed for gaa now. O Rourke will have biggest most varied management team in Meath ever. But decisions on every member needs to be finalised. So putting together a massive management team will take time.

But as I said the national media have mentioned Fitzmaurice joining Meath and Buckley also. And O Rourke didn't deny it. That's because Fitzmaurice has being in talks with Meath county board for weeks and attended interview for the job and was frontrunner 3 weeks ago. It will take a few more weeks before we see O Rourkes management team. But it will quite a big set up with allot of good people. From international rules to club O Rourke has always had good management teams.

[BillyFlynnfromTrim]

With Eamon Fitzmaurice assistant manager and coach and Donie Buckley coach and Jimmy McGuinnes s and c coach also involved strong looking management team.

Got a link to such info?

It's all over the county at moment and We are Meath podcast which is main official Meath gaa podcast which always breaks news in the county gaa wise, it has links to county board. We are Meath podcast has said Eamon Fitzmaurice is strongly touted as being member of O Rourkes management team as assistant manager and coach. They said Donie Buckley as coach also. The podcast always breaks news whose new on the panel whose leaving oanel any managerial appointments. All over the county Fitzmaurice Buckley names are being mentioned. O Rourke does build big management teams. At Simontowns when he managed he had management of over 20 people for that Meath senior club. You would expect a big management team under Colm.

Buckley is part of McStays proposed Mayo management. Still no word in the national media that Jim McGuinness Eamon Fitzmaurice will be part of O'Rourke management.

The Star newspaper last week linked Fitzmaurice to New Meath Management team. And the Irish Examinor also last week linked Fitzmaurice to New Meath Management team. And LMFM main radio station in North East louth and Meath asked Colm O Rourke about rumours  circulating in that Eamon Fitzmaurice and Donie Buckley our part of his management and he didn't rule it out and he didn't deny it.

[imtommygunn]

Will be and could be are two very different things...

[Hound]

Bernard Flynn not happy social media announced who the new Meath manager was the other day.

He was in for it also - had an impressive team behind him also.

I wonder, as it's a 'job' as such, can a candidate go back to the panel and say why did X get it over me or what else would have got me the gig?

Or can they appeal the decision?

Tommy Rooney (Meath man who seems to get info from county board)  on Newstalk had some interesting comments on Bernard Flynn.

Flynn said on social media that it was very disappointing that the first he learned about the new manager appointment was on social media.
Which wasn't a lie, but was definitely designed to be misleading. Flynn was called by the county board before the announcement and was told he wasn't getting it. He asked to be told who the new manager was, but the county board person would not tell him (which was the agreed county board protocol in relation to the unsuccessful candidates).

Flynn also tweeted his thanks about Rochford for his loyal support, or word to those effects, which indicated that Rochford was on his ticket. However, Flynn's tweet was later deleted, as it's clear Rochford is trying to be on a Mayo ticket, and it seems he would only have considered being on Flynn's team if he didn't get a role with Mayo.

[Derry Optimist]

The media are having a field day not only in speculating as  to who will manage which county,   but almost more importantly,  what will be the identity of their various back room teams. Going by the successful teams of the recent past, that means at least a full time group of 20 people per county plus an auxiliary part time staff of 4 to 6 others.To me this is a runaway expensive train which will further separate the top 6 or 7 larger counties who can easily attract large sponsorship from the rest of the counties.

How that imbalance can be rectified I do not know but it is certainly an inherent inequality regarding the future fairness of the competitiveness of our annual All Ireland championships in both hurling and football. It should be addressed with a sense of urgency by ALL GAA STAKEHOLDERS.

An interesting aside in all of this speculation is how often the same names keep recurring when it comes to selecting back room staff..Some one has decided that Donie Buckey  is the best football coach in the country and maybe he is. He has already been an integral part of Mayo,Kerry and Monaghan back room teams. A few weeks ago he was linked with Tomas O'Sé to take over Offaly. Now the latter has pulled out of that and we immediately find Donie linked to Mayo with Kevin McStay as well as with Colm O'Rourke,Eamon Fitzmaurice and Meath.

I think the availability of a large amount of expenses plays a central role as to who goes where. It is in this area that I believe financial control of such appointments should be under the direct Control of the GAA Management Committee with a clear transparent,accounting procedure in place. If this were done, maybe we could start to treat all of our counties equally and fairly. After all the players of Fermanagh,Leitrim,Longford and Carlow train as hard as the Kerrys, Dublins,Galways and yrones of this world but thereafter the chasm of inequality becomes wider and bigger each year.

[Rossfan]

God bless your innocence!

[IolarCoisCuain]

Anthony Cunningham gone: https://www.gaaroscommon.ie/anthony-cunningham-steps-down-as-roscommon-gaa-senior-football-manager/