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I know TG4 is showing it but does anyone know of a free streaming site that can be seen in the states for the matches?

Try vipboxsport or tykestv,I got the sat night setanta games on tykestv and very good reception here in the Canaries.

Absent,

On tykestv is there a specific channel?

Nevermind,  the vipboxsport is working..........THANK YOU!!!

Sorry for delay DRINKING HARP but glad you got the game/s,visitors from Ireland yesterday and only getting back on Laptop now,they are two very good sites and I particularly enjoyed the league games that were on Setanta using tykestv,by the way just click on "streams"and the coverage will be listed,the GAA might not be listed till nearer the throw in,enjoy

I know TG4 is showing it but does anyone know of a free streaming site that can be seen in the states for the matches?

Try vipboxsport or tykestv,I got the sat night setanta games on tykestv and very good reception here in the Canaries.

Absent,

On tykestv is there a specific channel?

Nevermind,  the vipboxsport is working..........THANK YOU!!!

I know TG4 is showing it but does anyone know of a free streaming site that can be seen in the states for the matches?

Try vipboxsport or tykestv,I got the sat night setanta games on tykestv and very good reception here in the Canaries.

I suppose all of this does go back to the Michael Rice injury but maybe it was a badly needed wake - up call. I'm all for the game being physical and allowed to flow. Everyone is, but our players need to be protected too and maybe we lost sight of thati n the last couple of years. There was a lot of wild pulling this year that went unpunished. The hard tackling from 1 -15 that's a part of the game now is fantastic but a wild pull can end a player's year, maybe his career and affect his ability to earn a living. The game won't lose anything in clamping down on wild and intentional pulls on an opponent. No one wants to see fussy refereeing in hurling but I don't think that's what's being proposed. Just a bit more protection. I'm with Pat on this one.

Obviously AC and Bud are right that hurling and football should have seperate rulebooks. 2 different sports sharing one rulebook is ludicrous really.

You are so right, a badly needed wake up call,pity that some KK supporters only noticed the dangerous play in 2012.

With the punishment handed out by KK players over the last several years not to mind the cynical tackles most of us forecast that other teams would up the anti and meet fire with fire,unfortunately some KK players came out the wrong side this year.At last the GAA are going to say stop and I agree with this,however it should have been done several years ago,why the change of heart now?

Kilmallock beat Adare in a close affair in Limerick,they will now play the Tipp champions in Kilmallock in the Munster Club Championship.

Terrible morning here in the Dublin area,to improve in the afternoon,the day may suit slower players,I have the wet gear out.It will be interesting to see how big Walter Walsh does at full forward for KK,it could be a baptism of fire for him.

Walter Walsh to start for KK ?

I see the team on Hogan Stand and yes Walter Walsh starts at full forward,a big lad,will KK be playing the long ball in to the full forward line,this will be some tactical battle on sunday,Skehill is a huge loss to Galway if he doesn't make it.

I think of the youngest of the big 3 desert religions, huge numbers of deluded followers, and a vocal rump of violent jihadists who take their teachings a little too literally for my liking. On the other hand I think of the positive contributions made to maths and science, the cosmopolitan cities with their libraries and universities that were thriving when Dark Age Europeans were living in mud huts, and I lament how far that culture has fallen since then.

Well said,sound out.

I think of the youngest of the big 3 desert religions, huge numbers of deluded followers, and a vocal rump of violent jihadists who take their teachings a little too literally for my liking. On the other hand I think of the positive contributions made to maths and science, the cosmopolitan cities with their libraries and universities that were thriving when Dark Age Europeans were living in mud huts, and I lament how far that culture has fallen since then.

Maybe at the next funeral you attend you will change your mind and come to believe in God.

Your flowery rhetoric on math and science mask the fact you are a hater!

Man invented god,not the other way round,think about it!

It truly was a golden age for Tipp who were at the time the greatest hurling team of their era just like Kk is seen by a lot of people in the current era.I was at a lot of those Tipp games in the munster championship,heady days for my Tipp relatives.

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The Tipperary minor hurling team to play Dublin in the Electric Ireland All Ireland minor hurling final replay on Sunday next shows 1 change from the team which started the drawn game. Dylan Fitzell starts instead of Steven O'Brien. The team is:

1. Paul  Maher (Moyne Templetuohy)
2. Ronan Maher (Thurles Sarsfields)
3. Michael Breen (Ballina)
4. Jack Peters (Kilruane MacDonaghs)
5. Tom Fox (Eire Og Annacarty Donohill)
6. Tomás Hamill (Killea)
7. Barry Heffernan (Nenagh Eire Og)
8. Bill Maher (Kilsheelan Kilcash) Captain
9. Stephen Cahill (Thurles Sarsfields)
10. John McGrath (Loughmore Castleiney)
11. Dylan Fitzell (Cashel King Cormacs)
12. Sean Maher (Clonoulty Rossmore)
13. Tadhg Gallagher (Kildangan)
14. Jack Shelly (Mullinahone)
15. Mark McCarthy (Toomevara)

I see the forwards have been switched around again,is that Jack Shelly related to the bustling Paul Shelly of Tipp senior fame.Is the lad from Ballina who played full forward the last day injured or dropped.

Can the 60s hurling finals be got on DVD?

I mailed them and this is the reply:

"Hi,

Not at the moment. There are plans to release the highlights of the  60/61/62/63 finals next November  hopefully."

Just in time for Christmas!

 

First things first: Kevin Myers is a plonker, a pompous ass, and the only times he's right is in the same way that a stopped clock is right twice a day. His world view of dictated by his ideology, not facts.  I've noticed that factual accuracy isn't always his strong point.  Sometimes his ideology lines up with reality, and it mostly does in the article below but he misses a few key points.

For example he omits the fact that the "outrage" over that stupid youtube video is manufactured outrage, the result of a few politicians whipping up hatred to shore up their base.  Salman Rusdhie was talking about this the other week.  Cities like Beirut and Damascus and Tehran were cosmopolitan open societies not so long ago.  This radicalisation of Islam is a fairly recent phenomenon and is a side-effect of internal power struggles in those countries. I heard that the authorities in Pakistan even called a public holiday to encourage people to go out and protest.  There's still a substantial proportion of the Islamic world (probably most of it) that doesn't give a toss about a stupid youtube clip. Pan the camera away from the angry mob at the embassy and the view is of ordinary streets full of people going about their daily business.

But one thing that does get on my wick is the western media's recent infatuation with seeking "balance" even to the point of manufacturing it where it doesn't exist.  Fact: as bad as the christian fundamentalist wing of the American Republican party or the DUP are, there is no Christian equivalent of the Taliban or Al Queda.  Christians do not generally fly planes into buildings or ignite half the world in riots and deadly violence every time their religion is insulted. The worst you can expect is the population of Tunbrige Wells sharpening their pencils in disgust and preparing another broadside via the Letters to the Editor.

Fact: Islam is different.  Christianity went through its violent adolescent years around the time of the inquisition.  Judaism, the oldest of the desert religions, got that nonsense out of its system so long ago that the documented accounts of it are in the old testament.

And one other thing that Myers is missing here, in his usual "tar all pinko liberal leftists with the same brush" mantra, is that there are quite a few people on the left who are every bit as wary of Islam as those on the right.  The late Christopher Hitchens (on the left? maybe not, but he was no fan of the current GOP), Sam Harris, Bill Maher, these are people who have spoken up quite vocally about the fact that Islam is different and a lot more dangerous than other religions.

But anyway. I hope this thread stays on the topic of Islam and not Kevin Myers. I think we all know where we stand on him.

Kevin Myers: All sides are not equal in religious violence
Tuesday September 18 2012

AN interview on RTE Radio One last week between Pat Kenny and Robert Fisk proved to be a perfect distillation of the moral equivalence and factual imprecision favoured by the liberal left whenever Muslims start behaving irrationally.

The context, of course, was the homicidal hysteria which once again is sweeping the Islamic world over the childishly inept video that is supposedly about Mohammed, but really could be about anything. Early in the interview, Fisk referred to the "Christian version of al-Qa'ida", by which he meant the provocative idiots who deliberately insulted Muslims. But insulting people is not quite the same as flying planes into crowded skyscrapers, or beheading non-believers, or blowing up Shia mosques, or slowly scalding people to death, or cutting their throats, which is what al-Qa'ida regularly did to its victims in Iraq, and its affiliates still do in Afghanistan.

Referring to the murder of the US ambassador in Libya, he described the makers of the "rubbish video" as "two looneys" who had managed to "stir up otherwise quite reasonable people into besieging embassies in Cairo and Benghazi", leading to "deaths". So there we have it: the people who made the video are lunatics; but the people who murdered the US ambassador are usually reasonable people.

But how reasonable could they possibly be if a single video, of quite astounding banality, is able to transform them into a murderous mob? Pat Kenny did not ask that question. But he did ask about the freedom of expression that we in the West cherish. Robert Fisk replied that in many western countries, Ireland included, Jesus Christ, the holy family and the Christian church were still a no-go area. It wasn't so long ago, he continued, that a film was produced showing Jesus Christ making love to a woman. A cinema showing the film in Paris was burnt down, the culprit was a Christian, and a Christian was killed in the fire. "So it's not as if violence is solely and exclusively the territory of one religion."

The only possible incident that fits this description, and which is apparently the evidence that violence is not exclusively the territory of one religion, was an arson attack on a cinema showing Martin Scorsese's 'The Last Temptation of Christ'. Nobody was killed. A dozen were injured, most of them firemen. One "spectator" received serious burns. The attack was roundly condemned by the archbishop of Paris. And far from it being "not so long ago", it happened in 1988: namely 24 years ago, about as much time as occurred between the Easter Rising and the Fall of France.

Moreover, anyone can find on the internet a pornographic cartoon of Jesus, Moses, Buddha and the Hindu god Ganesha engaged in a complex sexual congress. No one anywhere has been killed because of it. No one will be killed. So, far from Robert Fisk's unchallenged assertion that violence is "not solely and exclusively the territory of one religion" being correct, the opposite is true: internationally, almost all religious violence is by Muslims, often for the most frivolous and opportunistic of reasons. Indeed, one can only conclude that many Muslims are fretfully and obsessively searching for a reason to be insulted. Once they have found it, people will be murdered, and violence extolled. And not just in Muslim countries. In Australia, for example, last weekend Muslim protesters rioted in Sydney and at a rally, a little boy held up the placard 'Behead all those who insult the Prophet'.

We're not talking metaphors here: we know from hideous experience that beheading is precisely the fate that al-Qa'ida reserves for its "enemies", from the US journalist Daniel Pearl, to hundreds of unfortunates in Iraq, to the party of men and women recently decapitated in Afghanistan.

Yet the western media continue to indulge the intellectually inane and factually incorrect fantasy that one side is as bad as another in this endless saga of Islamic violence. It was typical of the adolescent level of this self-loathing that Robert Fisk referred to Mitt Romney's recent address in Jerusalem, in which, said Fisk, the US republican candidate "made the extraordinary racist comment that the Israelis were ahead of the Palestinians, i.e, the Palestinians were an uncivilised people, presumably because they had brown eyes and weren't Christian".

But this final absurd extrapolation (as if Israelis were blue-eyed Anglicans) is all the work of Robert Fisk. Moreover, it is not "racist" to say that one society is ahead of another. Is it racist to say that Renaissance Florence was ahead of 16th century Ireland? Or that 21st century Ireland is ahead of modern Malawi? Of course, Kenny did not dispute Fisk's many ludicrous and fantastical observations.

The unassailable fact is that almost every single Muslim society is behind Christian/ secular/Jewish countries; which is why Muslims migrate to them, and not vice-versa, but then, quite remarkably, often complain about the values they find there. But it is these very values -- the tolerance of free speech, artistic expression and intellectual enquiry -- which underlie the success of non-Muslim societies. Why are our media so reluctant to proclaim and defend this most obvious of truths?

Go Atheism!

any links men?

cheers

http://www.vipboxsports.eu/watch/74889/1/38th-ryder-cup-2012---foursomes-live-stream-online.html

Great picture at the moment.