Learning the guitar

[JoG2]

Perhaps it's just hindsight on my part. Wish I had have paid attention to scales, arpeggios, runs and licks and picking strokes when I was younger. It's still a concentration exercise for me on some of the scales and runs. I have to think about it.

Definitely Chords and songs will embed the love for the instrument at the start.

100%. It's tough learning scales and the like with an older brain!

[The Gs Man]

Lads, I'm just good enough to be called bad, but I enjoy myself. I love strumming along on an acoustic in the study, and singing stuff from Christy Moore, Fureys etc. Easy on the voice, and easy enough (relatively) in the  Chord department.

The one thing that is killing me is the Barre chords. B, Bm etc etc. My fingers just can't form the chords because either the one acting as a 'capo' won't stay down, or the other ones forming the chord can't reach. Is there an easier way to play those chords, or do i just have to keep at it until my auld fingers loosen up enough to do it?

PS, seanie, I agree with All JOG says there. Also I like this url for easy enough songs, and loads of them....

http://www.irish-folk-songs.com/lyrics-and-chords.html

Practice them to death!  And maybe use a lighter gauge string.

Like J70 said, I would have avoided songs with B or whatever in it, to the point where I was transposing everything and using a capo.  A bit fiddly, especially on stage.

However, I just grabbed the electric and practised them flat out on that, which is easier.  I was then able to revert back to the acoustic.

So, basically it's practise.  Don't give up on it!

[BarryBreensBandage]

If you can play F and D sweetly, you can play the guitar.

All those with B problems, play B7, it will get you by.

[BarryBreensBandage]

For those that find it hard to fret (barre), use your thumb to cover the top two strings and fret your F.

[BarryBreensBandage]

Twelve Bar Blues

Great sound out of this and easy to play:

Strum pattern is 4/4 - there are 4 beats in one bar -  which means 4 down strokes for each bar.

So start with E7
Four bars - that's 16 down strokes

Next A7
Two bars - 8 down strokes

Back to E7
Two Bars - 8 down strokes

Then B7
One Bar - 4 down strokes

Back to A7
One Bar - 4 Down Strokes

Back to E7
Two Bars - 8 down strokes


Sure give it a go

[BarryBreensBandage]

The post above is used for the likes of Booker T's 'Green Onions' and John Lee Hookers 'Boom Boom'.

[tonto1888]

any guitar players got any tips of mastering barre chords

[JoG2]

any guitar players got any tips of mastering barre chords

* make sure your hand / arm is correct, ie you'll want your thump and index finger to form a clamp.

* learn to play open E with your middle, ring and pinky finger (makes it easier to move the E shape barre chairs down the fret board)

* maybe start with power chords, ie E A D strings (E shape barre) or A D G strings (A shape barre) and learn to navigate up and down the fret board memorising the chords.

* do not get hung up on all the strings ringing clear, the bottom B string can be a brut. Work on placing the barre chord as quick and accurately as you can.

Haven't looked, but I'm sure Justin Sandercoe or Andy Guitar would have a video or two with better / clearer tips

[tonto1888]

any guitar players got any tips of mastering barre chords

* make sure your hand / arm is correct, ie you'll want your thump and index finger to form a clamp.

* learn to play open E with your middle, ring and pinky finger (makes it easier to move the E shape barre chairs down the fret board)

* maybe start with power chords, ie E A D strings (E shape barre) or A D G strings (A shape barre) and learn to navigate up and down the fret board memorising the chords.

* do not get hung up on all the strings ringing clear, the bottom B string can be a brut. Work on placing the barre chord as quick and accurately as you can.

Haven't looked, but I'm sure Justin Sandercoe or Andy Guitar would have a video or two with better / clearer tips

cheers for the reply. Will look those two up. Its the B and Low E strings which never sound right. Always sound muted for me

[JoG2]

any guitar players got any tips of mastering barre chords

* make sure your hand / arm is correct, ie you'll want your thump and index finger to form a clamp.

* learn to play open E with your middle, ring and pinky finger (makes it easier to move the E shape barre chairs down the fret board)

* maybe start with power chords, ie E A D strings (E shape barre) or A D G strings (A shape barre) and learn to navigate up and down the fret board memorising the chords.

* do not get hung up on all the strings ringing clear, the bottom B string can be a brut. Work on placing the barre chord as quick and accurately as you can.

Haven't looked, but I'm sure Justin Sandercoe or Andy Guitar would have a video or two with better / clearer tips

cheers for the reply. Will look those two up. Its the B and Low E strings which never sound right. Always sound muted for me

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Strength-Exerciser-Strengthener-Adjustable-Resistance/dp/B095N7DNRH/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?crid=2ZZVLPWNCZA6W&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Y8LtIrNefW-6vCbhk6IpFhN-UvWVH-ZRRKDiMNzcOIfst0Rec_6Jcyun163eaxJdhoapPOD4Rpy9q2Xct6JIgDxvZjL59PxcpCiZ_AAAshBkjDq9elVrnO0d1860cZk4c0mW7Bl2lZp8gXSHa386sbQypZhOX-rypIOlJySXGEnA97ESLkS0ZQBwJwhysUlRcjOUekCoZ2WcCkU19Skfyg.SOV_iWJMEGe-npvTI6BO4byT7D8YON3CmbVu0HEzXTc&dib_tag=se&keywords=Wrist+exercise+machine&qid=1714384228&sprefix=wrist+exercise+machine+%2Caps%2C91&sr=8-4



You must be going rightly if you're learning the barre chords

[tonto1888]

any guitar players got any tips of mastering barre chords

* make sure your hand / arm is correct, ie you'll want your thump and index finger to form a clamp.

* learn to play open E with your middle, ring and pinky finger (makes it easier to move the E shape barre chairs down the fret board)

* maybe start with power chords, ie E A D strings (E shape barre) or A D G strings (A shape barre) and learn to navigate up and down the fret board memorising the chords.

* do not get hung up on all the strings ringing clear, the bottom B string can be a brut. Work on placing the barre chord as quick and accurately as you can.

Haven't looked, but I'm sure Justin Sandercoe or Andy Guitar would have a video or two with better / clearer tips

cheers for the reply. Will look those two up. Its the B and Low E strings which never sound right. Always sound muted for me

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Strength-Exerciser-Strengthener-Adjustable-Resistance/dp/B095N7DNRH/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?crid=2ZZVLPWNCZA6W&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Y8LtIrNefW-6vCbhk6IpFhN-UvWVH-ZRRKDiMNzcOIfst0Rec_6Jcyun163eaxJdhoapPOD4Rpy9q2Xct6JIgDxvZjL59PxcpCiZ_AAAshBkjDq9elVrnO0d1860cZk4c0mW7Bl2lZp8gXSHa386sbQypZhOX-rypIOlJySXGEnA97ESLkS0ZQBwJwhysUlRcjOUekCoZ2WcCkU19Skfyg.SOV_iWJMEGe-npvTI6BO4byT7D8YON3CmbVu0HEzXTc&dib_tag=se&keywords=Wrist+exercise+machine&qid=1714384228&sprefix=wrist+exercise+machine+%2Caps%2C91&sr=8-4



You must be going rightly if you're learning the barre chords

Ive been playing on and off for a while but the last few months been doing it more consistently. Ive always stopped when I get to the barre chords but am determined to get them this time

[JoG2]

any guitar players got any tips of mastering barre chords

* make sure your hand / arm is correct, ie you'll want your thump and index finger to form a clamp.

* learn to play open E with your middle, ring and pinky finger (makes it easier to move the E shape barre chairs down the fret board)

* maybe start with power chords, ie E A D strings (E shape barre) or A D G strings (A shape barre) and learn to navigate up and down the fret board memorising the chords.

* do not get hung up on all the strings ringing clear, the bottom B string can be a brut. Work on placing the barre chord as quick and accurately as you can.

Haven't looked, but I'm sure Justin Sandercoe or Andy Guitar would have a video or two with better / clearer tips

cheers for the reply. Will look those two up. Its the B and Low E strings which never sound right. Always sound muted for me

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Strength-Exerciser-Strengthener-Adjustable-Resistance/dp/B095N7DNRH/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?crid=2ZZVLPWNCZA6W&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Y8LtIrNefW-6vCbhk6IpFhN-UvWVH-ZRRKDiMNzcOIfst0Rec_6Jcyun163eaxJdhoapPOD4Rpy9q2Xct6JIgDxvZjL59PxcpCiZ_AAAshBkjDq9elVrnO0d1860cZk4c0mW7Bl2lZp8gXSHa386sbQypZhOX-rypIOlJySXGEnA97ESLkS0ZQBwJwhysUlRcjOUekCoZ2WcCkU19Skfyg.SOV_iWJMEGe-npvTI6BO4byT7D8YON3CmbVu0HEzXTc&dib_tag=se&keywords=Wrist+exercise+machine&qid=1714384228&sprefix=wrist+exercise+machine+%2Caps%2C91&sr=8-4



You must be going rightly if you're learning the barre chords

Ive been playing on and off for a while but the last few months been doing it more consistently. Ive always stopped when I get to the barre chords but am determined to get them this time

Best of luck. If you haven't already, and want to move up the neck, try triads. If you know basic barre shaping, it's handy enough to work out the major and minor triad for each chord, it's a quare adventure.

[tonto1888]

any guitar players got any tips of mastering barre chords

* make sure your hand / arm is correct, ie you'll want your thump and index finger to form a clamp.

* learn to play open E with your middle, ring and pinky finger (makes it easier to move the E shape barre chairs down the fret board)

* maybe start with power chords, ie E A D strings (E shape barre) or A D G strings (A shape barre) and learn to navigate up and down the fret board memorising the chords.

* do not get hung up on all the strings ringing clear, the bottom B string can be a brut. Work on placing the barre chord as quick and accurately as you can.

Haven't looked, but I'm sure Justin Sandercoe or Andy Guitar would have a video or two with better / clearer tips

cheers for the reply. Will look those two up. Its the B and Low E strings which never sound right. Always sound muted for me

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Strength-Exerciser-Strengthener-Adjustable-Resistance/dp/B095N7DNRH/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?crid=2ZZVLPWNCZA6W&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Y8LtIrNefW-6vCbhk6IpFhN-UvWVH-ZRRKDiMNzcOIfst0Rec_6Jcyun163eaxJdhoapPOD4Rpy9q2Xct6JIgDxvZjL59PxcpCiZ_AAAshBkjDq9elVrnO0d1860cZk4c0mW7Bl2lZp8gXSHa386sbQypZhOX-rypIOlJySXGEnA97ESLkS0ZQBwJwhysUlRcjOUekCoZ2WcCkU19Skfyg.SOV_iWJMEGe-npvTI6BO4byT7D8YON3CmbVu0HEzXTc&dib_tag=se&keywords=Wrist+exercise+machine&qid=1714384228&sprefix=wrist+exercise+machine+%2Caps%2C91&sr=8-4



You must be going rightly if you're learning the barre chords

Ive been playing on and off for a while but the last few months been doing it more consistently. Ive always stopped when I get to the barre chords but am determined to get them this time

Best of luck. If you haven't already, and want to move up the neck, try triads. If you know basic barre shaping, it's handy enough to work out the major and minor triad for each chord, it's a quare adventure.

I am currently working on flight of the icarus to get the hang of a gallop riff

[JoG2]

any guitar players got any tips of mastering barre chords

* make sure your hand / arm is correct, ie you'll want your thump and index finger to form a clamp.

* learn to play open E with your middle, ring and pinky finger (makes it easier to move the E shape barre chairs down the fret board)

* maybe start with power chords, ie E A D strings (E shape barre) or A D G strings (A shape barre) and learn to navigate up and down the fret board memorising the chords.

* do not get hung up on all the strings ringing clear, the bottom B string can be a brut. Work on placing the barre chord as quick and accurately as you can.

Haven't looked, but I'm sure Justin Sandercoe or Andy Guitar would have a video or two with better / clearer tips

cheers for the reply. Will look those two up. Its the B and Low E strings which never sound right. Always sound muted for me

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Strength-Exerciser-Strengthener-Adjustable-Resistance/dp/B095N7DNRH/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?crid=2ZZVLPWNCZA6W&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Y8LtIrNefW-6vCbhk6IpFhN-UvWVH-ZRRKDiMNzcOIfst0Rec_6Jcyun163eaxJdhoapPOD4Rpy9q2Xct6JIgDxvZjL59PxcpCiZ_AAAshBkjDq9elVrnO0d1860cZk4c0mW7Bl2lZp8gXSHa386sbQypZhOX-rypIOlJySXGEnA97ESLkS0ZQBwJwhysUlRcjOUekCoZ2WcCkU19Skfyg.SOV_iWJMEGe-npvTI6BO4byT7D8YON3CmbVu0HEzXTc&dib_tag=se&keywords=Wrist+exercise+machine&qid=1714384228&sprefix=wrist+exercise+machine+%2Caps%2C91&sr=8-4



You must be going rightly if you're learning the barre chords

Ive been playing on and off for a while but the last few months been doing it more consistently. Ive always stopped when I get to the barre chords but am determined to get them this time

Best of luck. If you haven't already, and want to move up the neck, try triads. If you know basic barre shaping, it's handy enough to work out the major and minor triad for each chord, it's a quare adventure.

I am currently working on flight of the icarus to get the hang of a gallop riff

Sounds like I'm teaching my granda how to suck eggs 

[tonto1888]

any guitar players got any tips of mastering barre chords

* make sure your hand / arm is correct, ie you'll want your thump and index finger to form a clamp.

* learn to play open E with your middle, ring and pinky finger (makes it easier to move the E shape barre chairs down the fret board)

* maybe start with power chords, ie E A D strings (E shape barre) or A D G strings (A shape barre) and learn to navigate up and down the fret board memorising the chords.

* do not get hung up on all the strings ringing clear, the bottom B string can be a brut. Work on placing the barre chord as quick and accurately as you can.

Haven't looked, but I'm sure Justin Sandercoe or Andy Guitar would have a video or two with better / clearer tips

cheers for the reply. Will look those two up. Its the B and Low E strings which never sound right. Always sound muted for me

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Strength-Exerciser-Strengthener-Adjustable-Resistance/dp/B095N7DNRH/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?crid=2ZZVLPWNCZA6W&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Y8LtIrNefW-6vCbhk6IpFhN-UvWVH-ZRRKDiMNzcOIfst0Rec_6Jcyun163eaxJdhoapPOD4Rpy9q2Xct6JIgDxvZjL59PxcpCiZ_AAAshBkjDq9elVrnO0d1860cZk4c0mW7Bl2lZp8gXSHa386sbQypZhOX-rypIOlJySXGEnA97ESLkS0ZQBwJwhysUlRcjOUekCoZ2WcCkU19Skfyg.SOV_iWJMEGe-npvTI6BO4byT7D8YON3CmbVu0HEzXTc&dib_tag=se&keywords=Wrist+exercise+machine&qid=1714384228&sprefix=wrist+exercise+machine+%2Caps%2C91&sr=8-4



You must be going rightly if you're learning the barre chords

Ive been playing on and off for a while but the last few months been doing it more consistently. Ive always stopped when I get to the barre chords but am determined to get them this time

Best of luck. If you haven't already, and want to move up the neck, try triads. If you know basic barre shaping, it's handy enough to work out the major and minor triad for each chord, it's a quare adventure.

I am currently working on flight of the icarus to get the hang of a gallop riff

Sounds like I'm teaching my granda how to suck eggs 

Not at all. I am very much a beginner despite playing on and off for a while. All the advice is very much appreciated