The ulster rugby trial

[nrico2006]

A large glass and half of wine and three double vodkas over the course of a night out would be pretty tame by student standards.

Maybe.  It was in my day.  Just saying we (on the board) can't second guess her tolerance to alcohol.

Absolutely not, just making the observation. If I was on a jury and heard that that was the total consumption over a night out consisting of pre-drinks, a nightclub and a house party afterwards I'd be raising my eyebrows.

Most of the women I knew in college didn't drink heavily. A couple glasses of wine and an alchopop or two and they were done. Same as most lads, they knew their limits. For all this talk of students binge drinking the fact is the vast majority don't drink themselves into a coma and at least stop before they get to a point where they can't find their way home.

Syferus I'm not sure what the alcohol tolerance of the women in the Chess club were, but I can only discuss my time in Belfast. Boys and girls both binge drank. On any night the women had as much drink as the men. Where it differed was the boys headed to for the cure the next morning whilst the women headed to class.

I wasn't in Belfast but I can vouch that in other parts of the country it was the same.

[RedHand88]

Jury back to deliberations...

[David McKeown]

Jury back to deliberations...

I'd imagine they'd get the rest of the day or most of it before they get the majority direction if needed.

[Milltown Row2]

Jury back to deliberations...

I'd imagine they'd get the rest of the day or most of it before they get the majority direction if needed.

Will there be a verdict today?

[GetOverTheBar]

Jury back to deliberations...

I'd imagine they'd get the rest of the day or most of it before they get the majority direction if needed.

You wouldn't want to have to be released after 6/7 weeks to have to go back into your real job for 1 day. Need to get the Thursday out of it, then a nice wee break until back after easter.

They know.

[Tony Baloney]

Jury back to deliberations...

I'd imagine they'd get the rest of the day or most of it before they get the majority direction if needed.

I know we've had this before but is majority 10/1 rather than the logical 6/5?

[David McKeown]

Jury back to deliberations...

I'd imagine they'd get the rest of the day or most of it before they get the majority direction if needed.

I know we've had this before but is majority 10/1 rather than the logical 6/5?

Yes

[yellowcard]

Jury back to deliberations...

I'd imagine they'd get the rest of the day or most of it before they get the majority direction if needed.

You wouldn't want to have to be released after 6/7 weeks to have to go back into your real job for 1 day. Need to get the Thursday out of it, then a nice wee break until back after easter.

They know.

Are jury members told to keep it confidential that they have are on a particular case? You would imagine that fellow workers would have a fair idea if someone just took 2 months off work.

[GetOverTheBar]

Jury back to deliberations...

I'd imagine they'd get the rest of the day or most of it before they get the majority direction if needed.

You wouldn't want to have to be released after 6/7 weeks to have to go back into your real job for 1 day. Need to get the Thursday out of it, then a nice wee break until back after easter.

They know.

Are jury members told to keep it confidential that they have are on a particular case? You would imagine that fellow workers would have a fair idea if someone just took 2 months off work.

Impossible to keep it quiet, they'll be told not to publicise it / talk about it obviously but a judge cannot stop co workers spreading etc. Belfast is a small place, the jurors are known.

[Milltown Row2]

Jury back to deliberations...

I'd imagine they'd get the rest of the day or most of it before they get the majority direction if needed.

You wouldn't want to have to be released after 6/7 weeks to have to go back into your real job for 1 day. Need to get the Thursday out of it, then a nice wee break until back after easter.

They know.

Are jury members told to keep it confidential that they have are on a particular case? You would imagine that fellow workers would have a fair idea if someone just took 2 months off work.

Impossible to keep it quiet, they'll be told not to publicise it / talk about it obviously but a judge cannot stop co workers spreading etc. Belfast is a small place, the jurors are known.

Who could afford to be out of work for 2 months? Madness amount of time, if you were self employed you'd be out of business

[Fr. Cyril McDuff]

Verdicts in. Not guilty!
All defendants acquitted.

[AZOffaly]

Verdicts in. Not guilty!
All defendants acquitted.

Not really surprising. Hard to get beyond reasonable doubt. Unanimous too.

[AZOffaly]

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BREAKING The jurors have just returned to the courtroom with unanimous verdicts on all counts. They've been deliberating for 3hrs 45mins. All 100 seats in the public gallery have been taken. The four defendants are back in the dock.

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Justice done and seen to be done. Unanimity of it is very telling.

[David McKeown]

Verdicts in. Not guilty!
All defendants acquitted.

Not really surprising. Hard to get beyond reasonable doubt. Unanimous too.

The acquittal of McIlroy shows the IP was simply not believed.